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nightracer
06-08-2004, 04:51 PM
The basz civic in cincy trapped 136 or 138 on his old set up with 536-549fwhp he now says he's putting down over 700whp and I am wondering how much of an improvement that would be. Think it'd possibly beat two of my friend's 850-900whp supras? Both have bottles and make that power off the bottle though.

civperc
06-08-2004, 04:59 PM
With cars making that much h.p., it usually comes down to how well the power gets to the ground (traction). A lower hp car with a better driver and better suspension/drivetrain can easily beat out a higher hp car.

Juicy
06-08-2004, 05:18 PM
Think it'd possibly beat two of my friend's 850-900whp supras? Both have bottles and make that power off the bottle though.

Probably not from a stop or roll. FWD insane hp wheelhop would be his enemy. It's probably geared too short for top speed either.

nightracer
06-08-2004, 06:01 PM
He beat my friend's 535rwhp Z32 to 170mph by 9 car legnths so I don't think his gears are exactly short. He's actually wanting to race somebody to 200mph in this thread (http://www.cincinnatistreetracing.com/community/index.php?showtopic=290). :roflmao: I was unaware of a fwd honda transmission that would go to 200mph. The car has the power but aerodynamics and gearing seem like they would be big limiting factors for him whereas the Sportscars he's trying to run have that in their favors.

mpitre44
06-08-2004, 06:10 PM
Not talkin down on civics but come on, a 700 hp civic? Thats BS. I don't even think the chassis for a civic could handle that much power, and it wouldn't even be street legal. Thats more fwd championship specs, and i don't even know if their 4cycl cars handle that much. I saw and believed the 400 hp hatch, but 700, I don't think so. Couldn't even run that without blowing parts out of the engine compartment.

mpitre44
06-08-2004, 06:11 PM
With cars making that much h.p., it usually comes down to how well the power gets to the ground (traction). A lower hp car with a better driver and better suspension/drivetrain can easily beat out a higher hp car.

This is very much so correct.

Evil Patio
06-08-2004, 06:16 PM
Not talkin down on civics but come on, a 700 hp civic? Thats BS. I don't even think the chassis for a civic could handle that much power, and it wouldn't even be street legal. Thats more fwd championship specs, and i don't even know if their 4cycl cars handle that much. I saw and believed the 400 hp hatch, but 700, I don't think so. Couldn't even run that without blowing parts out of the engine compartment.
:thumb:

ofay
06-08-2004, 06:49 PM
Not talkin down on civics but come on, a 700 hp civic? Thats BS. I don't even think the chassis for a civic could handle that much power, and it wouldn't even be street legal. Thats more fwd championship specs, and i don't even know if their 4cycl cars handle that much. I saw and believed the 400 hp hatch, but 700, I don't think so. Couldn't even run that without blowing parts out of the engine compartment.


not rying do play you down but ive heard of and seen multiple many 500whp civics with an b18 rods, sleeves, block guard and fuel system, with a really good hondata tune so 700 isnt that unbeleiveable depending on the setup

nightracer
06-08-2004, 06:59 PM
Not talkin down on civics but come on, a 700 hp civic? Thats BS. I don't even think the chassis for a civic could handle that much power, and it wouldn't even be street legal. Thats more fwd championship specs, and i don't even know if their 4cycl cars handle that much. I saw and believed the 400 hp hatch, but 700, I don't think so. Couldn't even run that without blowing parts out of the engine compartment.
I know for a fact he put down 612whp because he used the T66 and nitrous to do so. Now 700 I will agree is a little far fetched. Ever since he told me it was making 700whp it hasn't run. I'm not sure if it'll hold together but if it does it'll be mean. The only thing I heard that beat him was a ZX12R.

mpitre44
06-08-2004, 07:00 PM
not rying do play you down but ive heard of and seen multiple many 500whp civics with an b18 rods, sleeves, block guard and fuel system, with a really good hondata tune so 700 isnt that unbeleiveable depending on the setup

With 500 hp, those civics were damn near maxed out. And probably won't run that many times before major problems began to happen.

mpitre44
06-08-2004, 07:01 PM
I know for a fact he put down 612whp because he used the T66 and nitrous to do so. Now 700 I will agree is a little far fetched. Ever since he told me it was making 700whp it hasn't run. I'm not sure if it'll hold together but if it does it'll be mean. The only thing I heard that beat him was a ZX12R.

612 is a lil hard to belive also, not calling you a liar, but I'd need to see a dyno slip, and the car to believe its still in good shape, after is runs. I realize that all honda parts are interchangeable so its possibly but the civic chassis holding up to that is why i say that its far fetched.

st00pid
06-08-2004, 07:08 PM
700whp in a civic has been on several occasions.. Duc's car in WA made 712whp in a street car. the car is still driving around after at least 6mos coming off the dyno.

There is nothing to say a chassis will not handle the hp.

We tuned a car in California that made 689 @ 26psi. This is a street car. The only reliability issues has been axles and differential. both of which have been replaced, and the car is back on the streets. The car was tuned to 29psi but the slicks spun on the dyno so we have no idea how much it made.

The engine most people use in there street turbo hondas are the same engines that the Hot Rod and PFWD guys use. The engines we have built to make 500-600whp in street hondas are the same specs and parts Kenny Tran has proven to over 1100whp in his Hot Rod civic.

mpitre44
06-08-2004, 09:42 PM
700whp in a civic has been on several occasions.. Duc's car in WA made 712whp in a street car. the car is still driving around after at least 6mos coming off the dyno.

There is nothing to say a chassis will not handle the hp.

We tuned a car in California that made 689 @ 26psi. This is a street car. The only reliability issues has been axles and differential. both of which have been replaced, and the car is back on the streets. The car was tuned to 29psi but the slicks spun on the dyno so we have no idea how much it made.

The engine most people use in there street turbo hondas are the same engines that the Hot Rod and PFWD guys use. The engines we have built to make 500-600whp in street hondas are the same specs and parts Kenny Tran has proven to over 1100whp in his Hot Rod civic.

Well needless to say that the cavalier won the fwd champs recently. Running the quarter in 8 secs.

But back to the honda's. Its not street legal. And who drives around with a 500+ f cycl car. So you know what kind of gas that takes.

I still would like to see the dyno. It maby possibly after you change everything on the car, find a way to put weight on the back. Once cars as small as civics began to have that much power, there is so much more to take into consideration. And with experience in builing cars with power equivilant or better to that, which were 8 cycl cars, i see differenly. Truly its not even safe to have cars with that type of power on the street. Examples of the civic's consideration I will post up in a few min. But to add, the engine that is being suped up is not a civic engine, therefore its not really a true civic either. Just a body and suspension, if they use suspension designed for a civic. Other cars, use engines that were desigend for that car, and are rebuilt to be more powerful. (no offense to civics that are running civic engines.)

fug_mo
06-08-2004, 09:47 PM
Well needless to say that the cavalier won the fwd champs recently. Running the quarter in 8 secs.
thats because GM is backing them.If there was a Honda sponsored pro fwd car(besides dealership backed cars) than no other car would be able to compete.
Also,civic's in other country's came with the b18 engines that people are using to build,so they did come with those engines,just not here.

mpitre44
06-08-2004, 09:49 PM
thats because GM is backing them.If there was a Honda sponsored pro fwd car(besides dealership backed cars) than no other car would be able to compete.

:roflmao:

There is a honda sponsered car. That was the final match. The cav vs the honda, can't remember if it was a prelude or a civic. But after he saw he was being smoked, he slowed and finished at 11 sec.

fug_mo
06-08-2004, 09:53 PM
:roflmao:

There is a honda sponsered car.
which one is it?I wasnt aware there was any FWD cars that were actually sponsored by Honda co. ..i only know about the dealership sponsored cars,which im not talking about.

syntheticGT
06-08-2004, 10:07 PM
Well needless to say that the cavalier won the fwd champs recently. Running the quarter in 8 secs.

But back to the honda's. Its not street legal. And who drives around with a 500+ f cycl car. So you know what kind of gas that takes.

I still would like to see the dyno. It maby possibly after you change everything on the car, find a way to put weight on the back. Once cars as small as civics began to have that much power, there is so much more to take into consideration. And with experience in builing cars with power equivilant or better to that, which were 8 cycl cars, i see differenly. Truly its not even safe to have cars with that type of power on the street. Examples of the civic's consideration I will post up in a few min. But to add, the engine that is being suped up is not a civic engine, therefore its not really a true civic either. Just a body and suspension, if they use suspension designed for a civic. Other cars, use engines that were desigend for that car, and are rebuilt to be more powerful. (no offense to civics that are running civic engines.)

mpitre44....I know you probably THINK you know quite a bit about this subject...but I would not argue with st00pid.

Arguing high hp cars with st00pid is like punching yourself in the nuts. He has probably been there and done that and doing more then you could ever imagine.

Gabe

i-vtec195
06-08-2004, 10:10 PM
:roflmao:

There is a honda sponsered car. That was the final match. The cav vs the honda, can't remember if it was a prelude or a civic. But after he saw he was being smoked, he slowed and finished at 11 sec.


dood, you're gay. i see why noone likes you... :rolleyes: there's no honda factory sponsored draggers out here either. and jason whitfield's street EG6 makes right around 725whp.

SecretAgent
06-08-2004, 10:10 PM
mpitre44....I know you probably THINK you know quite a bit about this subject...but I would not argue with st00pid.

Arguing high hp cars with st00pid is like punching yourself in the nuts. He has probably been there and done that and doing more then you could ever imagine.

Gabe


wrd. you should probably stick to watching them on TV and talking to your dog about them. because he's the only one that won't make fun of you.

Benny
06-08-2004, 10:27 PM
should he be banned for stupidity? :kekegay:

KInG $H!T
06-08-2004, 10:29 PM
mpitre44....I know you probably THINK you know quite a bit about this subject...but I would not argue with st00pid.

Arguing high hp cars with st00pid is like punching yourself in the nuts. He has probably been there and done that and doing more then you could ever imagine.

Gabe


werd i would not agrue the fact of a 700 whp car on the bottle shit i can think of 2 honda here in houston with 600whp off the bottle. Johns teg ran a 10.9 (street car) making right at 600whp and alex's silver eg hatch running a 10.4 or 10.6 not to sure making well over 600whp shit he was trapping in the 140s so i would not argue the fact of a high whp car

SecretAgent
06-08-2004, 10:32 PM
should he be banned for stupidity? :kekegay:


ban him from all the car related forums, lol, jk.

KInG $H!T
06-08-2004, 10:33 PM
ban him from all the car related forums, lol, jk.

werrd or atleast anythign that has to do with hondas :p

i-vtec195
06-08-2004, 10:42 PM
should he be banned for stupidity? :kekegay:


vin diesel : "smoke him... " :cool:

SecretAgent
06-08-2004, 11:10 PM
vin diesel : "smoke him... " :cool:


donnell mcallister "shut the fuck up sven."


:roflmao: :roflmao: jk.

st00pid
06-08-2004, 11:19 PM
GM got beat the fuck up last year by Gardella in Hot Rod. So that doesnt prove a damn thing.. other than they won A race.

Street legal?? Have you looked under 90% of the heads/cam V8s lately.. they make a whopping 450whp... and without catalysts they are..


NOT STREET LEGAL


There are dozens of civics that make 400-450whp on 93 octane. once the boost is turned up they can easily make over 500-600whp.

700whp is not very common but not impossible. who cares if its made on 93 octane or race gas. It was made. Doug levin advertises 1200-1400whp supercharge packages for Vipers.. guess what.. they run on race gas only. does that make it less of a car? They trap 150-160mph. Id say thats pretty impressive.

i-vtec195
06-08-2004, 11:20 PM
donnell mcallister "shut the fuck up sven."


:roflmao: :roflmao: jk.

:( you cock.

suleman
06-08-2004, 11:57 PM
please continue arguing with st00pid, i like hearing what he has to say :thumb:


also, 400hp very common, 500hp common, 600hp few, 700hp not very common but i've read on some otther forums that that has been achieved, and to add... keep in mind high hp Hondas CAN be used on the streets because most of them are tuned and can make decent gas millage if you drive the car correctly

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 12:18 AM
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: jezz no more stupid :bullshit: replys from mpitre44 :roflmao: lol i think its because he just got OWNED!! by his own stupidity :roflmao: :smack: :slap: :hit: :lamer:

TopSeller
06-09-2004, 12:35 AM
mpitre44 i thought you were joking around...

NisAznMonk
06-09-2004, 02:03 AM
should he be banned for stupidity? :kekegay:

After reviewing his many previous posts, I'd say yes. :)

Evil Patio
06-09-2004, 02:05 AM
Well needless to say that the cavalier won the fwd champs recently. Running the quarter in 8 secs.

But back to the honda's. Its not street legal. And who drives around with a 500+ f cycl car. So you know what kind of gas that takes.

I still would like to see the dyno. It maby possibly after you change everything on the car, find a way to put weight on the back. Once cars as small as civics began to have that much power, there is so much more to take into consideration. And with experience in builing cars with power equivilant or better to that, which were 8 cycl cars, i see differenly. Truly its not even safe to have cars with that type of power on the street. Examples of the civic's consideration I will post up in a few min. But to add, the engine that is being suped up is not a civic engine, therefore its not really a true civic either. Just a body and suspension, if they use suspension designed for a civic. Other cars, use engines that were desigend for that car, and are rebuilt to be more powerful. (no offense to civics that are running civic engines.)
shut the fuck up already you fucking idiot

CheeseFrog
06-09-2004, 09:09 AM
There is a honda sponsered car. That was the final match. The cav vs the honda, can't remember if it was a prelude or a civic. But after he saw he was being smoked, he slowed and finished at 11 sec.
It's funny that for all of GM's virtually unlimited factory backing, throwing tons and tons of money into their sport compact race program, their full tube-frame race car is only .1X seconds quicker than Gary's unibody Civic built by two guys in a garage LOLOL

Dorian
06-09-2004, 09:22 AM
ban him from all the car related forums

st00pid
06-09-2004, 09:31 AM
It's funny that for all of GM's virtually unlimited factory backing, throwing tons and tons of money into their sport compact race program, their full tube-frame race car is only .1X seconds quicker than Gary's unibody Civic built by two guys in a garage LOLOL
Theyre not even mechanics.. they work in a body shop. ... And running 8.08 @ 180 (8.08@180) without ANY sponsorships!

nightracer
06-09-2004, 09:35 AM
He said its almost together right now, just waiting for some Defi guages and it'll be ready to play. I haven't heard anything about 700whp being achievable in civics but I knew the profwd's were putting down stupid hp so there was a question. So you guys are saying that if he runs the same engine as the profwd guys he's going to have the potential to make 1100fwhp?

CheeseFrog
06-09-2004, 09:38 AM
He said its almost together right now, just waiting for some Defi guages and it'll be ready to play. I haven't heard anything about 700whp being achievable in civics but I knew the profwd's were putting down stupid hp so there was a question. So you guys are saying that if he runs the same engine as the profwd guys he's going to have the potential to make 1100fwhp?
With methanol, yeah...

st00pid
06-09-2004, 09:40 AM
He said its almost together right now, just waiting for some Defi guages and it'll be ready to play. I haven't heard anything about 700whp being achievable in civics but I knew the profwd's were putting down stupid hp so there was a question. So you guys are saying that if he runs the same engine as the profwd guys he's going to have the potential to make 1100fwhp?I dont know who he is but as long as he runs the clearances a little looser, he would have the same engine as the hot rod or PFWD guys.

however..

Thats the engine. The engine alone will not make XXXXwhp You will have to have the right turbo and engine management.

Oh yea, and one other thing...


METHANOL.

EDIT: cheesey beat me to the punch.

nightracer
06-09-2004, 09:42 AM
Chesefrog or anybody - IS there a transmission for that car that will have long enough gears to hang with a supra on top end? I guess with 6-700whp he has the power to fight aerodynamic drag.

CheeseFrog
06-09-2004, 09:49 AM
LS tranny will do the trick. If you spin it to 10K RPM, an LS 4th gear is good til nearly 170mph. But 4th on an LS is overdrive. It'd be nice if it were 1:1.

st00pid
06-09-2004, 09:50 AM
The LS transmission will top out at over 200mph at 9500rpms on a 23"tire

nightracer
06-09-2004, 10:06 AM
I never imagined it'd be such a monster and actually hold together. I am in dissbelief because I think he might pass those big hp Supras. :kekegay:

I'm not sure if he'll walk them but if they don't spray they'll be introuble, I think. I guess that 500rwhp RX-7 thats calling him out doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against him. This summer is going to be interesting. :eek3dance

TopSeller
06-09-2004, 01:17 PM
I heard the Gsr tranny was also good for those kind of speeds (165+)

needaimport
06-09-2004, 01:19 PM
well i dunno. but in super street theres a 590hp eg.

Trae*
06-09-2004, 01:23 PM
mmmmm methanol with banana scent :thumb:

suleman
06-09-2004, 01:40 PM
mmmmm methanol with banana scent :thumb:


hmm, less gassy smell :roflmao:


wonder til how much an itr tranny will hold up :googles this topic:

suleman
06-09-2004, 01:41 PM
well i dunno. but in super street theres a 590hp eg.



AND ITS A STREET CAR

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:10 PM
We are still talking about 4 cyl cars. Screw Everyone, that had some smart ass comment to say about me. Show me dyno slips, and i'll shut the fuck up. No questions asked.

Dorian
06-09-2004, 02:13 PM
Dude you got owned man... just leave this forum alone. Plenty of them can show you their experience but why bother proving it to someone that can't understand it in the first place.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:18 PM
Dude you got owned man... just leave this forum alone. Plenty of them can show you their experience but why bother proving it to someone that can't understand it in the first place.

I didn't get owned. Anyone can sit at a computer and tell me there car is 600 hp, let alone people who say there car is damn near a 1000 hp. All I say is prove it. You don't have to, (you don't have to do anything you don't want to) but simply if that is so, and you brag about it, then show your bragging rights. I'll applaude anyone who does, cause I'm a better man than that.

CheeseFrog
06-09-2004, 02:29 PM
We are still talking about 4 cyl cars. Screw Everyone, that had some smart ass comment to say about me. Show me dyno slips, and i'll shut the fuck up. No questions asked.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/pb6675c0371a975af4e7ea98d4702fd8f/fbc4a893.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p2aef2ea51120135a29baf949ab46e313/fbc4a873.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p4e1dce712ac9568c59f689220bbc86d5/fbc4a8ac.jpg

682hp with a .58 a/r back housing
764hp with a .82 a/r back housing
857hp with a .58 a/r back housing on methanol

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:32 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/pb6675c0371a975af4e7ea98d4702fd8f/fbc4a893.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p2aef2ea51120135a29baf949ab46e313/fbc4a873.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p4e1dce712ac9568c59f689220bbc86d5/fbc4a8ac.jpg

682hp with a .58 a/r back housing
764hp with a .82 a/r back housing
857hp with a .58 a/r back housing on methanol

:)

Two questions, Is that your car? and is it a civic? (if not what engine)

Dorian
06-09-2004, 02:34 PM
:)

Two questions, Is that your car? and is it a civic? (if not what engine)
You said four cyl.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:38 PM
You said four cyl.

I realize, that 4 cyl engines are capable of doing this, we were talking about a civic engine.

One more question, is the b18 the engine that were are rambling about that is the engine that is capable of doing such high hp?
And is that even a civic engine?

moleman
06-09-2004, 02:41 PM
I realize, that 4 cyl engines are capable of doing this, we were talking about a civic engine.

One more question, is the b18 the engine that were are rambling about that is the engine that is capable of doing such high hp?
And is that even a civic engine?
oh now i see where your going with this, but yeah like people said st00pid knows his shit

black_cap
06-09-2004, 02:43 PM
I realize, that 4 cyl engines are capable of doing this, we were talking about a civic engine.

One more question, is the b18 the engine that were are rambling about that is the engine that is capable of doing such high hp?
And is that even a civic engine?
do you even know what engines come in a civic? or do you only know what engine comes in a civic in the US? Cause seriously whatever point your are trying to hit you just put ur foot in your mouth. I would suggest to run and hide cause you are getting hoed in this thread.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:45 PM
oh now i see where your going with this, but yeah like people said st00pid knows his shit

Thanks, I figured someone would have to understand sooner or later.

Dorian
06-09-2004, 02:46 PM
but yeah like people said st00pid knows his shit Understatement... and I don't even know him or have ever met him. :thumb:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:47 PM
do you even know what engines come in a civic? or do you only know what engine comes in a civic in the US? Cause seriously whatever point your are trying to hit you just put ur foot in your mouth. I would suggest to run and hide cause you are getting hoed in this thread.

But we live in the us. Sure they can be imported, but if they can legally, then it can fly?

Why would I run and hide? No ones going to beat me up. Its just talk. Opinnions are like a-holes, Everyone has them including me. Just a chat

black_cap
06-09-2004, 02:51 PM
I'd agree, and I had a argument over this a long time ago. And everyone was like wtf are you thinking. Well I know I live in the US and the cars they are refering to aren't in the US. But from what I read you never mentioned a engine code. So I assume all these massive hp civics are powered by a b18c or similar.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 02:56 PM
I'd agree, and I had a argument over this a long time ago. And everyone was like wtf are you thinking. Well I know I live in the US and the cars they are refering to aren't in the US. But from what I read you never mentioned a engine code. So I assume all these massive hp civics are powered by a b18c or similar.

probably so. And i'm not a big honda man so I can't just read off specs from each engine. But what I am thinkin about is could there be some confusion in those numbers. Hp at the crank and hp at the wheels makes a big difference..... but we will see in a min. I'm doing some searches.

st00pid
06-09-2004, 03:03 PM
Gary Kubo made almost 700whp on a B16 civic Si engine about 3 years ago. I guess Im failing to see the point..

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:06 PM
Interestingly, what you won't find under the hood of any of those dragsters is an H series engine. Despite apparent built-in advantages--such as a closed deck from the factory and a bigger bore and stroke--chief Holeshot wrencher Aaron Bonk tells us that the H is rarely used in drag engines. Part of the reason is the way the cylinders are lined. The sleeves in the H are much thinner, which don't allow for the flexibility in boring that one can take advantage of with a race-prepped B series engine. Because of this, the cylinder walls can't take the ultra-high boost levels found in modern front-wheel drive dragsters. Bonk points out that while an H engine can comfortably produce between 600 and 700 hp, there are B engines that are putting out close to 1000. Luckily, for our street-driven Civic, such high-horsepower concerns are irrelevant, however interesting they may be.

This was found at hondatuningmagazine.com

This shows that it is capable, but not on a civic, nor prelude engine. This is pure DRAG (non Street) because the block has to be bored over for much larger pistons, which is not street safe to have more the about .40 over. It does say that the block is built tough for high boost, but after the engine has been bored so much, that high boost is only going to last so long. Proof that a street civic is not going to have hp that high.

Will post up more info as I find it.

-=E36=-
06-09-2004, 03:10 PM
Interestingly, what you won't find under the hood of any of those dragsters is an H series engine. Despite apparent built-in advantages--such as a closed deck from the factory and a bigger bore and stroke--chief Holeshot wrencher Aaron Bonk tells us that the H is rarely used in drag engines. Part of the reason is the way the cylinders are lined. The sleeves in the H are much thinner, which don't allow for the flexibility in boring that one can take advantage of with a race-prepped B series engine. Because of this, the cylinder walls can't take the ultra-high boost levels found in modern front-wheel drive dragsters. Bonk points out that while an H engine can comfortably produce between 600 and 700 hp, there are B engines that are putting out close to 1000. Luckily, for our street-driven Civic, such high-horsepower concerns are irrelevant, however interesting they may be.

This was found at hondatuningmagazine.com

This shows that it is capable, but not on a civic, nor prelude engine. This is pure DRAG (non Street) because the block has to be bored over for much larger pistons, which is not street safe to have more the about .40 over. It does say that the block is built tough for high boost, but after the engine has been bored so much, that high boost is only going to last so long. Proof that a street civic is not going to have hp that high.

Will post up more info as I find it.


I JUST READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD and you just keep making dumber and dumber statements.

You just typed out what most people on this thread have know forever. How is that proof of anything? Cheezefrog was driving his car on the street all the time. I remember driving behind him on occasion (long time ago). He was making the power you are talking about and his car was lasting just fine. Please dont quote magazines when they are already outdated.

Ryan

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:11 PM
ok so basically what you are saying is that a stock motor wont make that ower?? im not understanding.. and if you need to see dynos of johns 10.9 600whp teg goto sgp's web site. i think is it www.sgpracing.com :thumb:

black_cap
06-09-2004, 03:12 PM
H series has never came in a civic. B and D series come in a civic.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:13 PM
I JUST READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD and you just keep making dumber and dumber statements.

Ryan

Keep your mouth shut if you don't have constructive critisim to back up your statments.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:14 PM
ok so basically what you are saying is that a stock motor wont make that ower?? im not understanding.. and if you need to see dynos of johns 10.9 600whp teg goto sgp's web site. i think is it www.sgpracing.com :thumb:

It just took me to a bunch of parts for sale, find a direct link

-=E36=-
06-09-2004, 03:15 PM
Keep your mouth shut if you don't have constructive critisim to back up your statments.

Reread it again dumb shit, I wanted to get the anger out with that first post then I'd explain why you are an idiot.

Ryan

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:16 PM
I JUST READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD and you just keep making dumber and dumber statements.

You just typed out what most people on this thread have know forever. How is that proof of anything? Cheezefrog was driving his car on the street all the time. I remember driving behind him on occasion (long time ago). He was making the power you are talking about and his car was lasting just fine. Please dont quote magazines when they are already outdated.

Ryan

So why doesn't he have his car now, or where is it or whats wrong with it?

And I guess excessive cursing makes you feel GRRREEEEAAAAT!

black_cap
06-09-2004, 03:17 PM
the dyno

http://store6.yimg.com/I/sgpracing-store_1796_7271670

his car

http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/joh95ingsr.html

-=E36=-
06-09-2004, 03:18 PM
So why doesn't he have his car now, or where is it or whats wrong with it?

It was a completed project, after something like that is done you move onto the next. I really have no idea what happened to it, I dont make his personal decisions.

Ryan

moleman
06-09-2004, 03:18 PM
So why doesn't he have his car now, or where is it or whats wrong with it?

And I guess excessive cursing makes you feel GRRREEEEAAAAT!
he's going bigger and bader

Dorian
06-09-2004, 03:20 PM
Keep your mouth shut if you don't have constructive critisim to back up your statments.
You keep your mouth shut for being a hypocrite and doing the same shit on other people's thread. I don't know how many times I've had to delete your idiotic comments towards people.

So why doesn't he have his car now, or where is it or whats wrong with it?

And I guess excessive cursing makes you feel GRRREEEEAAAAT!
:rolleyes: Why don't you ask him.... it's not like he doesn't post on here.

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:21 PM
http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/joh95ingsr.html and yes those are old dynos :thumb:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:21 PM
the dyno

http://store6.yimg.com/I/sgpracing-store_1796_7271670

his car

http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/joh95ingsr.html

If you scroll down and read, it says that his street whp is 472. With boost he reached 588. 10 sec car, with all of his weight adjustments. Where does that tell me about his whopping 700 hp civic that street legal.

black_cap
06-09-2004, 03:22 PM
So why doesn't he have his car now, or where is it or whats wrong with it?

Nothing is wrong with it, his complete swap is for sale

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59649

I'm guessing he is trying to acheive even greater now

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:22 PM
You keep your mouth shut for being a hypocrite and doing the same shit on other people's thread. I don't know how many times I've had to delete your idiotic comments towards people.


:rolleyes:

You haven't had to delete my comments because i've just started posting in the car talk forum.

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:23 PM
dang you havent been through OWNAGE yet mpitre44 y do you keep on insiting on contridicting ppl that know what they are talking about? :yeahno:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:25 PM
Nothing is wrong with it, his complete swap is for sale

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59649

I'm guessing he is trying to acheive even greater now

Thats still not 700 whp. The beginning of the thread says he made 6-- hp. I said it was bs, now that i'm proving this, everyone wants to show me dyno slips of 4-- 500 hp. And yes, I said it had to be street legal.

moleman
06-09-2004, 03:25 PM
Mauris(spl?) go ahead and give up, your just rambling now and not giving any valuable post anymore to argue with you about :-/

CheeseFrog
06-09-2004, 03:26 PM
:)

Two questions, Is that your car? and is it a civic? (if not what engine)
That's not my car, but it is a Civic.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:26 PM
dang you havent been through OWNAGE yet mpitre44 y do you keep on insiting on contridicting ppl that know what they are talking about? :yeahno:

I don't know everything, and neither does everyone else. People say a few technical statments and they seem to know everything in the world. But I said, I don't know much about honda, but now that i see numbers, everyone is showing exactly what i said.

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:27 PM
If you scroll down and read, it says that his street whp is 472. With boost he reached 588. 10 sec car, with all of his weight adjustments. Where does that tell me about his whopping 700 hp civic that street legal.


like i stated before that is a old dyno.. and no one in there right mind would run there full potienial on the street all of the time that y they invented a boost controller. and this lets you know that if he is making 600whp (by himself and tuning his own car) then it should be very believable that soemone is making 700whp

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:29 PM
Mauris(spl?) go ahead and give up, your just rambling now and not giving any valuable post anymore to argue with you about :-/

(I will pm you the spelling) I think I may give up. I post up numbers and prove a point and everyone is blind. Its cool though. I got my 350 started today. Sounds real sweet

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:29 PM
Mauris(spl?) go ahead and give up, your just rambling now and not giving any valuable post anymore to argue with you about :-/

werd you are simply making your self look silly

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:30 PM
like i stated before that is a old dyno.. and no one in there right mind would run there full potienial on the street all of the time that y they invented a boost controller. and this lets you know that if he is making 600whp (by himself and tuning his own car) then it should be very believable that soemone is making 700whp

No because you still have to think about "if the block is capable of handling this type of power" If it was a 6 or 8 cyl, there would have been no argument because I am well aware that supra (6cyl) are capable of 1000 hp, and 8 cyl are capable of well over that. But the fact was, "STREET CAR"

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:31 PM
(I will pm you the spelling) I think I may give up. I post up numbers and prove a point and everyone is blind. Its cool though. I got my 350 started today. Sounds real sweet


thats good now you are thinking please STEP AWAY FROM THE THREAD :thumb:

CheeseFrog
06-09-2004, 03:31 PM
So why doesn't he have his car now, or where is it or whats wrong with it?
Huh? I still have my car. I just don't drive it very often now that I have my xB :) Are you feigning scepticism just to get a high HP Civic owner let you drive his car? :)

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:32 PM
Huh? I still have my car. I just don't drive it very often now that I have my xB :) Are you feigning scepticism just to get a high HP Civic owner let you drive his car? :)

Naw, I never wanted to drive a civic. I'm more of a gm man. But if i had to have a honda, it would be an accord.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:32 PM
thats good now you are thinking please STEP AWAY FROM THE THREAD :thumb:

never.....

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:33 PM
No because you still have to think about "if the block is capable of handling this type of power" If it was a 6 or 8 cyl, there would have been no argument because I am well aware that supra (6cyl) are capable of 1000 hp, and 8 cyl are capable of well over that. But the fact was, "STREET CAR"

THAT IS WHAT THE BOOST CONTROLLER IS FOR!!! you wont even see a 1000whp supra drive that around with out turning down the boost for everyday driving. but either way when need it can easily be turned up

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:35 PM
THAT IS WHAT THE BOOST CONTROLLER IS FOR!!! you wont even see a 1000whp supra drive that around with out turning down the boost for everyday driving. but either way when need it can easily be turned up

A supra has 2 extra cyl which means 2 extra pistons, which means more power from the engine alone. Thats why its eaiser to work with.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:36 PM
More about my truck............

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:38 PM
A supra has 2 extra cyl which means 2 extra pistons, which means more power from the engine alone. Thats why its eaiser to work with.

ok now you are just being stubborn and ignorant we never said that it was easier to make power with the small motor only that it is well capable of 700whp... i think you have shown us all enough of your stupdity for one day :yeahno:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:40 PM
ok now you are just being stubborn and ignorant we never said that it was easier to make power with the small motor only that it is well capable of 700whp... i think you have shown us all enough of your stupdity for one day :yeahno:

OK, this will never end. Truce

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:41 PM
OK, this will never end. Truce


umm you cant call a truce if you have already been beat :rolleyes: :p

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:44 PM
umm you cant call a truce if you have already been beat :rolleyes: :p

No one has been beat, I'm just tired of arguing about it. Besides, show me your 700 hp capable civic? Bring it out to the next meet, I'd like to see it.

black_cap
06-09-2004, 03:50 PM
No one has been beat, I'm just tired of arguing about it. Besides, show me your 700 hp capable civic? Bring it out to the next meet, I'd like to see it.
seriously you are beating yourself, not the everyday common folk can afford such a car. And if they can I doubt they own it because they own something more luxuries. If I could afford a 700hp civic I would rather own a vette or something with more style.

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:51 PM
No one has been beat, I'm just tired of arguing about it. Besides, show me your 700 hp capable civic? Bring it out to the next meet, I'd like to see it.


umm i dont believe that i ever said that I owned a civic capable of 700whp..but i do remember saying that a civic is capable of 700whp.. now if you would like to see my friend andys ride which will easily make 600whp (OFF THE BOTTLE)i will surely ask him if he is willing to show it to you it should be rebuilt offly soon and we are always out at the SS meet. So if you want i can PM you when it is done (shouldnt be longer the 2-3weeks at most) and you can catch us when we are at the SSmeet :thumb: by the way if you would like to talk to the so called andy is screen name on here is The coupe (hints: civic coupe) :thumb:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:53 PM
seriously you are beating yourself, not the everyday common folk can afford such a car. And if they can I doubt they own it because they own something more luxuries. If I could afford a 700hp civic I would rather own a vette or something with more style.

People say that they own such machines, so i would like to see.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 03:54 PM
umm i dont believe that i ever said that I owned a civic capable of 700whp..but i do remember saying that a civic is capable of 700whp.. now if you would like to see my friend andys ride which will easily make 600whp (OFF THE BOTTLE)i will surely ask him if he is willing to show it to you it should be rebuilt offly soon and we are always out at the SS meet. So if you want i can PM you when it is done (shouldnt be longer the 2-3weeks at most) and you can catch us when we are at the SSmeet :thumb: by the way if you would like to talk to the so called andy is screen name on here is The coupe (hints: civic coupe) :thumb:

Pm me and let me know. Where is that meet, is there a track out there? Cause Hopefully by that time, my gaskets will be set, and i want to run before i supercharge or turbo my ride.

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:56 PM
umm if you look in the meet section it will tell you all about the meet it is on the sout east side of town and no theres not a track but andy like beating up on v8s so im sure we can take it to mexico(some where in the area) i will just have to ask him if he will be willing to race which im sure he will be but i cant answer for him because its not my ride :thumb:

Dorian
06-09-2004, 03:57 PM
Archives?

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 03:58 PM
who knows maybe we can even get john the blk teg to come out and play i know andy andd him was talking about getting some video footage when his ride is back up :thumb:

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 04:01 PM
Archives?


yea throw it in there just to show how ridculious and stupid some ppl are :thumb:

Evil Patio
06-09-2004, 04:02 PM
yea throw it in there just to show how ridculious and stupid some ppl are :thumb:
:roflmao:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 04:03 PM
umm if you look in the meet section it will tell you all about the meet it is on the sout east side of town and no theres not a track but andy like beating up on v8s so im sure we can take it to mexico(some where in the area) i will just have to ask him if he will be willing to race which im sure he will be but i cant answer for him because its not my ride :thumb:

I don't want to race, I want track times for my truck. So for each new thing i add, I'll know what kind of increase it added. And I'm not driving way to mexico to race anyway. Thats insane.

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 04:03 PM
yea throw it in there just to show how ridculious and stupid some ppl are :thumb:

some people are stupid :D

KInG $H!T
06-09-2004, 04:06 PM
I don't want to race, I want track times for my truck. So for each new thing i add, I'll know what kind of increase it added. And I'm not driving way to mexico to race anyway. Thats insane.


:roflmao: hmm hey stupid mexico is just a code name for a place around here with out giving a disclosed location :roflmao: track your car another day you said you wanted to see that car right? :ugh2: :roflmao:

mpitre44
06-09-2004, 04:07 PM
:roflmao: hmm hey stupid mexico is just a code name for a place around here with out giving a disclosed location :roflmao: track your car another day you said you wanted to see that car right? :ugh2: :roflmao:

Ok then, thats fine.

Dorian
06-09-2004, 04:21 PM
yea throw it in there just to show how ridculious and stupid some ppl are :thumb:
:roflmao: