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darestie
05-17-2009, 09:12 AM
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2009 MOSLER MT900

ENGINE SPECS:
381 CUBIC INCHES
2,500+ HP 10,000 RPM TWIN TURBOCHARGED TERROR
MULTI-FUEL SYSTEM: GASOLINE/METHANOL/HYDROGEN/ETHANOL...

TRANSMISSION SYSTEM
AWD
TRACTION CONTROL BY MOTEC
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM 8-SPEED TRANS-AXLE
QUICK-CHANGE GEAR-BOX, 30 SETS OF TRACK GEARS...

SUSPENSION/BRAKING SYSTEM:
ALL TITANIUM SUSPENSION COMPONENTS
PENSKE 3-WAY ADJUSTABLE RACING SHOCKS
FULLY ADJUSTABLE FRONT AND REAR AND SWAY BARS
CNC MACHINED SOLID DELRINTM SUSPENSION BUSHINGS
CARBON FIBER/CERAMIC 400MM DIAMETER BRAKE ROTORS
8-PISTON, LIQUID COOLED, CNC BILLET CALIPERS...

WHEELS:
DYMAG CARBON FIBER, MAGNESIUM CENTER, TITANIUM LUG NUTS
FRONT 11.5" X 19"
REAR 14" X 20"

THE TRENTEK CHASSIS IS THE WORLD'S STIFFEST, LIGHTEST AND MOST COST EFFICIENT CAR CHASSIS. MADE OF COMPOSITE CARBON FIBER/HONEYCOMB KEVLAR, THE TRENTEK CHASSIS FOR THE MT900 WEIGHS IN UNDER 90LBS, (LESS ENGINE, TRANS, WIRING, SUSPENSION, ETC.) AND COULD BE PUT TOGETHER, BY HAND, IN APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AN EXPENSIVE ASSEMBLY LINE. THIS CHASSIS IS OFFERED EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH TRENNE TECHNOLOGIES, INC. AND TEKLAM CORPORATION. VEHICLE WEIGHS 777 KILOS (1,709 LBS.), WITHOUT FUEL

ACTUAL TOP SPEED = 305 MPH+
CFD/FEA CATIA V5R19, THEORETICAL PHYSICAL TOP SPEED = 375 MPH+
CFD/WIND TUNNEL WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS
COMPUTATIONAL FLUID DYNAMICS VERIFIED AERODYNAMICALLY SOUND AT OVER 400 MPH (AFTER EXTENSIVE IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATION)
(CFD/FEA CATIA V5R19 VERIFIED WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS-AERODYNAMICALLY LIMITING VEHICLE TO 305 MPH, WITH REAR WING ATTACHED)

TOP SPEED = 375 MPH+ WITH 118 OCTANE RACING FUEL, WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS
LIMITED TO 305 MPH, WITH REAR WING ATTACHED, GASOLINE/METHANOL FUEL MIX
0-60 MPH = 2.5 SECONDS
0-150 MPH = 6.7 SECONDS
0-250 MPH = 17.5 SECONDS
1/4 MILE = 9.0 SECONDS
1/4 MILE SPEED = 178 MPH
ZERO TO 150 MPH AND BACK TO ZERO = 8.7
BRAKING: 250 MPH TO ZERO IN 8.5 SECONDS

SPECIFCALLY DESIGNED AS THE WORLDS FASTEST PRODUCTION VEHICLE

IT'S SCHEDULED TO RUN AT BONNEVILLE SPEED WEEK IN 2009, FOR THE GUINNESS WORLD BOOK OF RECORDS PEOPLE, AND WHEN CONFIRMED, IT'S OFF TO NURBUGRING, WHERE MICHAEL SCHUMACHER (IF EVERYTHING GOES AS DISCUSSED) WILL PUSH IT AS HARD AS POSSIBLE.



http://www.motorcities.com/vehicle/09EAG052031253.html

VolksFaggin
05-17-2009, 09:34 AM
holy dog shit!

MR.BallisticKrU
05-17-2009, 10:01 AM
my word!

heyitsryan
05-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Holy shit!

pizzaguy
05-17-2009, 10:29 AM
Put me down as a doubter. I don't think it do anywhere near 300mph, at best I see 260 but that's it. There is just way too many bodypanel that look like it's gonna be ripped off at very high speed. Needless to say that thing is a beast though.

THEPHILOSOPHER
05-17-2009, 10:31 AM
I want to see what it'll do.

VolksFaggin
05-17-2009, 10:31 AM
You looking at that gas cap cover too Pizza? All that wind tunnel testing and they couldn't get something better then a f150 gas door? I mean I assume that little bump to open it would do something when you're blasting over 200+ mph... but what do I know. :dunno:

pizzaguy
05-17-2009, 10:54 AM
You looking at that gas cap cover too Pizza? All that wind tunnel testing and they couldn't get something better then a f150 gas door? I mean I assume that little bump to open it would do something when you're blasting over 200+ mph... but what do I know. :dunno:
Nope I didn't even notice that til' you said something about it. I'm talking about the amount of heat extractor's, mirrors, windsheild wiper and the roof scoop. It may be wind tunnel test and cerified but driving on the salt is going to very different.

AzNVi3t2007
05-17-2009, 11:12 AM
Damn no paddle shifters ftw! Looks fun 2 drive. Id be scared. only 7k rpms

VolksFaggin
05-17-2009, 11:16 AM
2,500+ HP 10,000 RPM TWIN TURBOCHARGED TERROR

AzNVi3t2007
05-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Oh I missed that part thanks. lol

slideways2004
05-17-2009, 11:43 AM
ugly ass NRG wheel:facepalm:

Sultan69
05-17-2009, 11:44 AM
:drool:

lovemeruff
05-17-2009, 12:16 PM
i just came

'89 Probe
05-17-2009, 12:59 PM
3rd picture down... is it me or does that car seem to be in a police lockup/impound?

AzNVi3t2007
05-17-2009, 01:49 PM
I like the license plate too.

winc281
05-17-2009, 02:57 PM
man 2500 hp thats fkn nuts

3rd picture down... is it me or does that car seem to be in a police lockup/impound?

yeah it does

Dirk Lance
05-17-2009, 10:07 PM
lol @ "Area 51" plate

NOPISTN
05-17-2009, 11:44 PM
how many cylinders?

darestie
05-18-2009, 12:08 AM
how many cylinders?

Pretty sure it's a V8 even though it didn't say. I don't doubt its speed. It only weighs 1700lbs and has 2500hp. Thats 1500hp more than the veyron and its 2500lbs lighter.

AzNVi3t2007
05-18-2009, 12:15 AM
I thinks its an LS6 v8 in it...Not sure. I know previous ones had it.

darestie
05-18-2009, 12:30 AM
Heres some more information on the car.

Most of us would be happy (ecstatic, really) to own the 2009 Mosler MT900 GTR XX. However, as is often the case with items that claim to be the best, somebody has come around to make it even better.

John Gocha (we hope that's not actually "Gotcha!") and his company, Intense Automotive Design, claim to have stripped and rebuilt a Mosler MT900 GTR XX. In doing so, they have created a one-of-a-kind hellion - if the car really does exist. Even if the car only exists on paper, the concept alone is magnificent.

Nicknamed "The Land Shark", this car weighs a full 250 kg (551 lbs) less than the already lightened GTR XX, coming in at 861 kg (1898 lbs) with its fuel tanks full. Yes, we said "tanks", as in plural. This car runs on a multi-fuel system using petrol, methanol, hydrogen, and ethanol. Gocha claims that the use of multiple fuels means he was able to register his car as a "hybrid" in California, meaning he gets to take this monster into the often wide-open carpool lanes of Los Angeles!

Here's where the story gets a little suspicious, and no offense to Gocha is meant by this. After all, Gocha has to realize that there will be skeptics when a relative unknown claims to have put something like this together. We all know that the GTR XX uses the GM LS7 engine which powers the Corvette. Gocha says his car utilizes an engine with a 381 cubic inch plant generating an unbelievable 2,500 horsepower, in part thanks to the twin turbos. We instantly thought that the engine he was using was the LSX from GM Performance Parts, which is capable of handling that kind of horsepower. However, the spec sheet says the block is from billet aluminum while the LSX is made of cast iron. He says his engine uses a 3.000" stroke and 4.500" bore, which would actually be a 382 cu. inch plant. His billet aluminum engine block and cylinder head has four injectors of varying sizes per cylinder, combined with racing fuel pumps capable of delivering six gallons (22.7 liters) per minute. Apparently, you can go really really fast in this car, just not for long. The engine also makes generous use of ceramic, titanium, and carbon to keep the weight down.

While the MT900 GTR normally goes from standstill to 100 km/h in 3.1 seconds, Gocha claims his version gets there in just over 2.5 seconds. His car allegedly hits 150 mph in 6.7 seconds, and 250 mph in 17.5 seconds. The car is capable of a nine second quarter-mile, reaching 178 mph by the time it gets there. Even more astonishing is the sprint to stop time. This car allegedly goes from zero to 150mph and back to a dead stop in 8.7 seconds. That's even faster than the Ultima GTR 0-100-0 time of 9.4 seconds, which seems remarkable.

But also seems dubious.

Helping to achieve these unbelievable times is the car's aerodynamic body kit. As seen in these photos Gocha and co. have created a new front splitter, new dive planes, and a fully adjustable rear wing built from carbon fiber. Also added are new air intakes and outlets on the sides, and new intakes on the roof and upper body. They installed a full-length air ducting channel via the flat belly pan to get the best downward force possible.

Intense Automotive Design also claims to have developed an all-wheel-drive system of titanium and carbon fiber, matching the all-titanium suspension system. Carbon fiber Dymag wheels have a magnesium center, and uses titanium lug nuts to attach to the car. Front wheels measure 11.5x19", with bigger 14x20" rear wheels. With all that effort going in to weight savings, you wonder why an Alpine 7.1 Dolby Digital DVD system would be included. The In-Car PC and GPS also adds weight.

In the end, thanks to a 90 pound (40.8 kg) Trentek chassis, the extensive engine tuning, and body modifications, the car has an actual top speed of over 305 mph (491 km/h). In theory, the car could withstand 375 mph (603.5 km/h), while maintaining aerodynamics to 400 mph (643.7 km/h). Gocha says the car is scheduled for a few sprints during the 2009 Bonneville Speed Week, before it heads to the Nurburgring. Perhaps wishful thinking but Gocha also states IAD will try to score Michael Schumacher as the car's test driver.

Now, before you start casting stones, let us keep in mind another little twin-turbo Mosler that goes by the name of "Red Devil." Remember this car? Built by Nelson Racing Engineering for U.S. Mosler dealer Mike Vietro (aka Corvette Mike or Mosler Mike) it produces 1800hp (1635hp confirmed) and has performance specs within range of this suppossed Land Shark.

So, to John Gocha, if your car is really just a fantasy, by all means keep living the dream. But if you've built this thing for real, we need to see it to believe it. Scratch that; we need to drive it (or see it driven) to believe it.

Open the press release below for the full specs. It's highly recommended

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090508.004/mosler-mt900-gtr-xx-twin-turbo-land-shark-revealed

seinkonnen
05-20-2009, 08:13 PM
If you guys think this car is real, then HI is a lot dumber than I had imagined.

This is just some silly nerds wet dream, nothing more. The car details don't even make sense. Plus, IAD isn't a real company.

darestie
05-20-2009, 10:08 PM
If you guys think this car is real, then HI is a lot dumber than I had imagined.

This is just some silly nerds wet dream, nothing more. The car details don't even make sense. Plus, IAD isn't a real company.

Prove it! Then again H-I is apparently dumb in your opinion so we'll go ahead and believe everything you say with no backing whatsoever.

seinkonnen
05-21-2009, 02:51 AM
Prove it!

Ok.

ENGINE SPECS:
381 CUBIC INCHES
2,500+ HP 10,000 RPM TWIN TURBOCHARGED TERROR
MULTI-FUEL SYSTEM: GASOLINE/METHANOL/HYDROGEN/ETHANOL
3.000" STROKE WITH 4.500" BORE
2-MOTEC M880 DIGITAL ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS
IAD BILLET CNC BILLET ALUMINUM BLOCK
IAD CERAMIC ROLLER-BEARING CRANKSHAFT AND CAMSHAFT BEARINGS
IAD/BRYANT/KEITH BLACK 4330 KNIFE EDGED, ULTRA-LIGHT ROLLER-BEARING CRANKSHAFT
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM CONNECTING RODS
IAD/COSWORTH CERAMIC COATED FORGED PISTONS
IAD 4340 1.000" DIAMETER .300" WALL THICKNESS PISTON PINS
1/16-INCH CHILD`S & ALBERT CHROMOLY RINGS
IAD 4-VALVE BILLET CNC ALUMINUM/CERAMIC CYLINDER HEADS
IAD CERAMIC COMBUSTION CHAMBERS & EXHAUST PORTS; BERYLLIUM SEATS
IAD CUSTOM LASER CUT HEAD GASKETS, O-RINGED CYLINDER HEADS
IAD CUSTOM O-RINGED INTAKE MANIFOLD AND CYLINDER HEAD INTAKE SURFACES
IAD/JESEL TITANIUM ROLLER ROCKERS WITH SOLID TITANIUM GIRDLE
IAD/JESEL 3-PIECE .160" WALL TAPERED 9/16 "-1/2" MODULAR PUSH RODS
IAD/CROWER PINNED 1.000" DIAMETER ROLLER LIFTERS
IAD CERAMIC COATED 2.00" TITANIUM INTAKE VALVES, 1.75" INCONEL® EXHAUST VALVES
JESEL TRIPLE VALVE SPRINGS, TITANIUM RETAINERS, 4340 LOCKS
IAD BILLET CNC TITANIUM/CARBON VALVE COVERS, POLISHED
IAD TITANIUM ROLLER CAMSHAFT WITH CERAMIC ROLLER CAM BEARINGS
IAD/JESEL BELT DRIVE CAMSHAFT TO CRANK TIMING, WITH TITANIUM GEARS
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM/CARBON MACHINED TIMING COVER
IAD HARMONIC DAMPENER WITH INTEGRAL CRANK TRIGGER PICKUP
IAD BILLET TITANIUM/CARBON DUAL ELECTRIC WATER PUMPS
ALL TITANIUM ENGINE HARDWARE

If the motor is based off the existing MT900 GTXX motor, which is a LS7, then this car is bullshit because you can't get a 4.500" bore (or a 3.000" stroke) on a LS7. You would have the deck height of a Ford 302 and the bore of a big block motor, it's fucking retarded. Secondly, even if it were based of the LSX block that has been proven to 2000+ HP, the max bore on that block is 4.25".

So basically the only way for this to work is that a company that doesn't even exist on the internet (google Intense Automotive Designs) built a completely new cylinder block for their very first production car.... Sounds logical, right?

Not only that, but in their brilliance they decided that a oversquare 4.500" bore and a 3.000" stroke motor was the logical choice for 10,000rpms and 2,500hp. A 4.500" bore would mean you have HUGE ass valves (which is the only reason to have such a huge bore, because it allows for a greater valve area). Huge valves equal lots of valve train weight, and that makes 10,000rpm very unlikely. Secondly, huge bore motors like this are more prone to detonation because the large bore size makes for a slower flame front and consequently a slower burn rate, ESPECIALLY AT HIGH RPMS. If you knew anything about motors you would've called bullshit.

It took me all of 2 seconds to call bullshit and laugh hysterically at this nonsense. I honestly can't believe you people buy into this crap.

DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

AWD
05-21-2009, 07:55 AM
Ok.



If the motor is based off the existing MT900 GTXX motor, which is a LS7, then this car is bullshit because you can't get a 4.500" bore (or a 3.000" stroke) on a LS7. You would have the deck height of a Ford 302 and the bore of a big block motor, it's fucking retarded. Secondly, even if it were based of the LSX block that has been proven to 2000+ HP, the max bore on that block is 4.25".

So basically the only way for this to work is that a company that doesn't even exist on the internet (google Intense Automotive Designs) built a completely new cylinder block for their very first production car.... Sounds logical, right?

Not only that, but in their brilliance they decided that a oversquare 4.500" bore and a 3.000" stroke motor was the logical choice for 10,000rpms and 2,500hp. A 4.500" bore would mean you have HUGE ass valves (which is the only reason to have such a huge bore, because it allows for a greater valve area). Huge valves equal lots of valve train weight, and that makes 10,000rpm very unlikely. Secondly, huge bore motors like this are more prone to detonation because the large bore size makes for a slower flame front and consequently a slower burn rate, ESPECIALLY AT HIGH RPMS. If you knew anything about motors you would've called bullshit.

It took me all of 2 seconds to call bullshit and laugh hysterically at this nonsense. I honestly can't believe you people buy into this crap.

DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


The red flag for me was a 381 TTLS7 making 2500+ LOL


Even if that was possible, that much power would be useless IMO.

E-DUBB
05-21-2009, 08:03 AM
the red flag for me was the usage of ALL CAPS.

:o

seinkonnen
05-21-2009, 08:13 AM
the red flag for me was the usage of ALL CAPS.

:o

INTENSE IMAGINARY CARS NEED INTENSE DESCRIPTIONS!!!!

al
05-21-2009, 09:03 AM
hydrogen powered, DANGER TO MANIFOLD

AWD
05-21-2009, 09:06 AM
there goes the floor board :-/

i-vtec195
05-21-2009, 11:03 AM
there goes the floor board :-/

the mad scientist would then have to tear down the engine block and replace the rings you fried... :nono:

AWD
05-21-2009, 03:56 PM
if it were done with a k series....the projected power would be more believable.

i-vtec195
05-21-2009, 04:19 PM
b sikteen or bust.

'89 Probe
05-21-2009, 05:10 PM
havent some drag supras made that kind of power before? i seent it!

AWD
05-22-2009, 07:20 AM
havent some drag supras made that kind of power before? i seent it!

uh, no and no you haven't.

At 2500+ hp, you're crossing the 1320 at 200+mph and running very low7's to mid-high 6's.

Another flag that the car is more than likely a fraud.

i-vtec195
05-22-2009, 08:15 AM
you're crossing the 1320 at 200+mph and running very low7's to mid-high 6's.


that's pro rwd territory.

AWD
05-22-2009, 09:01 AM
the car comes w/ a pit crew too.

i-vtec195
05-22-2009, 09:36 AM
the car comes w/ a pit crew too.

i've always wanted my own pit crew! :dance: