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VH_Supra26
03-30-2009, 07:38 PM
by Ralph Hanson
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Cars like this Maserati Gran Turismo S could have been forced to head to the paint shop

California may have a reputation for being one of the more 'progressive' states in the union, however the latest idea to come from the ever wise California Air Resources Board (CARB) had even the most die-hard environmentalists scratching their heads. Today the board backed down from its proposal, however, releasing a statement that it is "by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors."

Last week, reports emerged that CARB, the body that can strike fear into the hearts of auto manufacturers at the mention of their name, had proposed to remove the color black from automotive palette. Of course, the state wasn't trying to get rid of one of the world's most popular car colors for aesthetic purposes - rather, its the environmental qualities of the color that the board was after.

We all know that white colored cars tend to stay cooler than black cars - this is because white can reflect heat, while black absorbs it. The reasoning behind the rumored proposal was that with lighter car colors, car interiors will be cooler and thus drivers will use the air-conditioning less, thereby reducing fuel consumption and saving the Earth from certain doom. Paint companies derided the no-black-cars idea as nonsense, saying that CARB was trying to put a simple theory into a difficult application.

The idea was a novel one, which CARB has apparently borrowed from Californian legislation aimed towards structural buildings. Where in buildings having reflective glass and paint colors can reduce energy usage, paint suppliers are claiming that the same idea doesn't quite carry over to the automotive industry, and that the environmental benefits may well be offset by the toxic heavy metals used in reflective paints that are difficult to recycle. Still, the energy savings issue remains.

Now that the black color issue is off the table, mandatory use of reflective glass or reflective paint may still be alternative solutions, however. Public comment on the reflective glass rule is now open, and a final vote on the 'cool cars' initiative is expected sometime after the board's late June meeting.

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Linwozzle
03-30-2009, 07:39 PM
:facepalm:

Vincent
03-30-2009, 09:19 PM
Reflective glass windows? It's easy enough to get blinded by the sun off of a tiny side/rear-view mirror. It also goes against laws prohibiting coating on the windows that makes it difficult for cops to see inside.

Who is coming up with these ideas?

CZero
03-31-2009, 02:00 AM
Reflective glass windows? It's easy enough to get blinded by the sun off of a tiny side/rear-view mirror. It also goes against laws prohibiting coating on the windows that makes it difficult for cops to see inside.

Who is coming up with these ideas?
The same type of people who in the air force do shit just to say they did something and get recognition/rank.
"Look guys, I was the head of the reflective glass program! Please elect me to congress now!"
I bet they got so much heat over the stupid idea they said they weren't really going to do it...

battousai
03-31-2009, 02:13 AM
You forgot to post this article:

OK, so the reality was never as simple as the headlines made it sound. While the simplest way to explain what the California Air Resources Board was trying to do was that they were going to ban black cars, the reality (as we explained in our original post) was that CARB was thinking of requiring automobiles to be painted in colors that were at least 20 percent solar reflective by 2016. To make black paint meet that level would change it from the original color to "mud-puddle brown." Simplify that down to the Internet level, and, boom, "banning black cars" became a thing last week. Now, CARB' spokesman Stanley Young has clarified the proposed rule to the LA Times by saying, "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors" and said that the board has dropped the paint discussion for now. CARB is still interested in reflective glass (which isn't window tinting) to help reduce air pollutants, and is accepting public comments on the idea.

Narcissistic
03-31-2009, 06:18 AM
would make more sense to paint all the rooftops on every man made construction, white. instead of removing black cars.

But this is all bullshit anyways.

5w20
04-01-2009, 04:16 PM
racism

unitedelements
04-02-2009, 03:10 PM
knew this wasnt going to pass

CZero
04-02-2009, 04:11 PM
knew this wasnt going to pass
Talking about your kidney stone again I see

winc281
04-02-2009, 05:07 PM
^lol

94egg
04-03-2009, 04:58 PM
so they decided to "cool it" because they were getting to much heat? the irony:hsugh:

inhale
04-04-2009, 11:47 PM
so they decided to "cool it" because they were getting to much heat? the irony:hsugh:

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

VashThaStampede
04-05-2009, 12:21 AM
stupid plan was stupid

EvilEight
04-12-2009, 02:32 PM
would make more sense to paint all the rooftops on every man made construction, white. instead of removing black cars.

But this is all bullshit anyways.

would you vote to give carb the power to tell people what color house they may have also?

hwt101
04-12-2009, 07:50 PM
CARB keeping socialism alive and well

240sxboi
04-13-2009, 05:17 AM
not surprising. california is like the french, the back down to just about everything.