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VH_Supra26
11-14-2008, 09:33 AM
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2008/11/mediumsmall/general-motors-bankrupt.jpg

Too big to fail seems to be the mantra these days for everyone looking for a handout from the US government.

GM and many others are claiming that if GM is forced into bankruptcy, the whole industry may go down and cause massive harm to America's economic well-being.

The worst-case scenario goes something like this: GM collapses and immediately many of its suppliers fail since they are already in trouble too. Those same suppliers take down Ford production and the industry goes into a chaotic contraction with the loss of thousands of jobs and severely eroding America's manufacturing base.

But some analysts think GM's only course of action is to declare bankruptcy and restructure. And they say that if GM does it right with a good plan, it could be the best bet to save the company and the industry as a whole.

GM is hampered by the legacy costs of its commitments to employee and retiree benefits. Those penions and health-care liabilities can be re-negotiated with unions (and government) only under bankruptcy protection.

Steven Pearlstein at the Washington Post best lays out this particular argument. [see here]

According to Pearlstein, the danger is if GM is forced to declare bankruptcy in a collapse without a plan. Doing so may cause a panic by suppliers and scare consumers away. That could actually precipitate the worst-case scenario that those interested parties are claiming will happen if they do not get a bailout.

No one really knows what will happen if GM fails. Many in the US Congress as well as the incoming Obama administration don't want to see that scenario play out. If GM can survive until Obama is sworn in, they will likely get a bailout along with Ford and Chrysler. But if they go down before the Bush administration reverses course and gives the Detroit 3 the 25 billion dollars, we may just get an answer to that question.

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Vinnyman
11-14-2008, 09:42 AM
:hsrun:

Houston hb
11-14-2008, 09:50 AM
wow probley the chinese will by GM

dailygti
11-14-2008, 11:06 AM
Unions should not exist any more. They sucks.

DA_LsVtAk
11-14-2008, 11:07 AM
sounds good to me!

Renaissanceman
11-14-2008, 11:12 AM
actually unions are good, i have family that work for Walmart and they are one company thats employees that really need to belong to a union. but anyways back to cars the real reason gm and the other big two are failing is because they make too many cars, toyota and honda are doing fine and they only make like 6 vechicles each. hell GM probably makes around 50 vechicles and most of them are just rebadged, which costs even more money

85notch
11-14-2008, 12:01 PM
Unions should not exist any more. They sucks.

Unions have too much power.... they are killing America. When you are a union worker there is no incentive to work hard.... just show up and you get paid.

If GM got rid of the unions that might have a chance to build a decent product

dailygti
11-14-2008, 12:05 PM
Unions have too much power.... they are killing America. When you are a union worker there is no incentive to work hard.... just show up and you get paid.

If GM got rid of the unions that might have a chance to build a decent product


That is what I'm saying. Why you think the Japanese cars do so well? No union.

TXBlackout03
11-14-2008, 02:08 PM
actually unions are good, i have family that work for Walmart and they are one company thats employees that really need to belong to a union. but anyways back to cars the real reason gm and the other big two are failing is because they make too many cars, toyota and honda are doing fine and they only make like 6 vechicles each. hell GM probably makes around 50 vechicles and most of them are just rebadged, which costs even more money

You don't have any idea what you are talking about.

Vinnyman
11-14-2008, 02:14 PM
Unions have too much power.... they are killing America. When you are a union worker there is no incentive to work hard.... just show up and you get paid.
exactly



unions need to be done away with. they can get away with doing whatever the fuck they want and pull the "bitch card" on any company if they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar. it's fucking stupid.

i-vtec195
11-14-2008, 03:30 PM
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2008/11/mediumsmall/general-motors-bankrupt.jpg


lol.

seinkonnen
11-14-2008, 06:46 PM
Fuck unions in their dirty little ass.

Corrupt sue happy bitches that have made America a thousand times less competitive because HOW DARE WE ACTUALLY MAKE OUR EMPLOYEES WORK.

I would punch every union boss in the mouth, after having kicked them in their nuts and raped their dead grandmothers.

DA_LsVtAk
11-14-2008, 06:59 PM
Fuck unions in their dirty little ass.

Corrupt sue happy bitches that have made America a thousand times less competitive because HOW DARE WE ACTUALLY MAKE OUR EMPLOYEES WORK.

I would punch every union boss in the mouth, after having kicked them in their nuts and raped their dead grandmothers.

i was agreeing with you untill i read the last part of "raped their dead grandmothers" a little extreme :Ewave1:

OneArmedScissor
11-14-2008, 07:03 PM
unions do the exact same thing that companies do except they do it for workers.

I don't see how that's anti capitalistic.

It's GM's fault for being a bunch of sissies, or our legal system's fault for allowing extortion through fraudulent suits that you still have to pay for even if you're innocent.

seinkonnen
11-14-2008, 07:05 PM
i was agreeing with you untill i read the last part of "raped their dead grandmothers" a little extreme :Ewave1:

;)

JHizzleX
11-14-2008, 07:48 PM
eh maybe the prices will drop and i can afford to buy a vette and just let it sit in the garage for 5 years till i get out of college

seinkonnen
11-14-2008, 10:11 PM
eh maybe the prices will drop and i can afford to buy a vette and just let it sit in the garage for 5 years till i get out of college

I tried that. I got bored after the first year and sold it. :(