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VH_Supra26
11-08-2008, 08:12 PM
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The loss portends major cuts at GM, and the proposed Chrysler merger is now off the table

Trading of General Motors stocks halted at 11:04am EST this morning in anticipation of a major announcement concerning the company's financial situation. The substance of that announcement revealed that high fuel prices, slumping sales and a tough finance market have led to a net loss of $2.5 billion for the third quarter, and an adjusted loss of $4.2 billion.

The result isn't unexpected, as Ford announced a similar pre-tax result earlier today and the industry in general has been releasing poor to dismal figures all week. Nevertheless, the big loss means the planned pairing of Chrysler and GM is officially on the back burner for the near term even if major aid from the federal government does come through.

“The third quarter was especially challenging for the auto industry. Consumer spending, which represents close to 70 percent of the U.S. economy, fell dramatically, and the abrupt closure of credit markets created a downward spiral in vehicle sales,” said Rick Wagoner, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. “The U.S. government’s actions to help stabilize the credit markets and eventually ease the credit crunch are an essential first step to the economy’s and the auto industry’s recovery, but further strong action is required.”

Concerning previous talks with Chrysler concerning a possible merger or acquisition, Wagoner was succinct: ""We've concluded at this particular time that we are better off to put 100% of our efforts on the liquidity side. We've set aside such actions as a near term priority."

Financial prognostication through the end of 2008 is not optimistic, with the company planning to barely scrape by with the funds necessary to continue operations. The first two quarters of 2009 are equally bleak, with GM predicting it will barely be able to remain in business barring an economic turnaround, massive asset sales or some other intervention. The company hasn't come out and stated that bankruptcy is imminent, but the implication lies heavily over the news.

“Volatility in the world’s financial markets, tightening of consumer and business credit and historically-low consumer confidence has created a very challenging environment ,” said Wagoner. “Given the current lack of credit availability we must take further difficult ‘self-help’ actions.” Those self-help actions will be taken above and beyond the restructuring program announced earlier this year, designed to generate an additional $15 billion in liquidity for the company.

Production cutbacks, development delays and reduced support of the dealer network will account for major portions of the new initiatives. Additionally, GM plans to reduce its salaried employee cost by about 30%, meaning major layoffs throughout North America will likely be necessary, though GM plans to encourage as many voluntary early retirements and 'mutual separation programs' as possible.

The final tally has GM posting a $2.8 billion loss before tax, a loss of $2.5 billion after tax, an adjusted operating cash flow loss of $6.9 billion, and a net earnings loss per share of $4.45. Adjusted losses for Q3 2008 amounted to $4.2 billion, however, compared to $1.6 billion in the same period of 2007.

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TXBlackout03
11-08-2008, 10:22 PM
Where did the comments go? I was enjoying the anti-GM sentiment.

nappyrat
11-08-2008, 11:21 PM
very sad news

LabtopThief_jr.
11-08-2008, 11:43 PM
dam a lot of companies are losing money

Happy
11-09-2008, 02:52 PM
surprised = no

tiedupfool
11-09-2008, 02:58 PM
I dont really understand why they keep making cars the way they do. Its been pretty obvious that no one wants them.

TXBlackout03
11-09-2008, 03:20 PM
I dont really understand why they keep making cars the way they do. Its been pretty obvious that no one wants them.

It has been, but their is nothing wrong with the cars they make now. Its the fact that for 30 years there was absolute shit being pumped out so people think thats still the case.

tiedupfool
11-09-2008, 03:59 PM
It has been, but their is nothing wrong with the cars they make now. Its the fact that for 30 years there was absolute shit being pumped out so people think thats still the case.
Im not so sure even about their new line of cars. IMO they are deftly still lacking in styling and options for the price. As far as them just being crappy cars, I dont really know enough about their current durability so I cant really comment there.

nacho_nissan
11-09-2008, 04:05 PM
It has been, but their is nothing wrong with the cars they make now. Its the fact that for 30 years there was absolute shit being pumped out so people think thats still the case.

gm are pieces of shit. im not talking out of my ass, ive worked on a few. im a toyota tech, pretty obvious difference in quality when youre under both cars. not to mention ACdelco makes their electric stuff.. so it fails pretty fast.

TXBlackout03
11-09-2008, 04:18 PM
gm are pieces of shit. im not talking out of my ass, ive worked on a few. im a toyota tech, pretty obvious difference in quality when youre under both cars. not to mention ACdelco makes their electric stuff.. so it fails pretty fast.

Your opinion means jack, guy.

Vinnyman
11-09-2008, 04:24 PM
well, this is indeed sad news. GM actually did make a good effort to step their game up but i'm afraid it just isn't enough. i don't care what anyone says, the corvette is still one of my favorite cars. hopefully GM can think of something fast to keep them from the guillotine. :(


but i think they'll be able to pull themselves out of this hole...

meangreen94z
11-09-2008, 05:25 PM
gm are pieces of shit. im not talking out of my ass, ive worked on a few. im a toyota tech, pretty obvious difference in quality when youre under both cars. not to mention ACdelco makes their electric stuff.. so it fails pretty fast.

So you've worked on a few of them and going based on that you make an assumption? Well going on my personal assumption Toyota's are extremely prone to leaks. Because everyone I've ever worked on had several bad leaks(BMW tech btw). Of course I was working on them because something was wrong, not because they were in peak operating condition.

THAIpe_R
11-10-2008, 04:47 AM
majority of the imports are better than domestics car period. not really surprised about this news.

syntheticGT
11-10-2008, 08:01 AM
UAW is about to fuck themselves out of a job either way they slice it.

Let them fail.

Lets hit the ground running with this depression....get it started so we can start getting past it.

profuse007
11-10-2008, 10:27 AM
in b4 the barack president helping out the whiteys :thumb:

AznJoe
11-10-2008, 10:49 AM
so when you turn your car on ..............does it return the favor?..........

dantheman
11-10-2008, 11:13 AM
so when you turn your car on ..............does it return the favor?..........
yep :)