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VH_Supra26
08-23-2008, 01:37 AM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/09_grandsportunveil.jpg

It’s been known since the outset that the Bugatti Veyron would be limited to just 300 units, but what would come next has been an unknown. Reports are beginning to emerge, however, that the company is planning an all-new model for 2011 or 2012. Latest reports indicate the company could crank output up another 20% or more, from the current car’s 987hp (736kW) to 1,200hp (895kW) - enough to reach 270mph (432km/h).

Specifics on the new car are few, but according to Autocar Bugatti CEO Franz-Josef Paefgen has announced the new car will be coming. So far the design priorities are that the car mesh with the company’s storied history and that it evolve the basic idea behind the Veyron. As Paefgen put it, “A totally different direction is not an option.”

Keeping the car in the tradition of the Veyron could pose some problems in terms of emissions and fuel economy standards, however, and that will be one of the primary issues the engineers will have to solve. Paefgen does not want to yield the essential nature of the cars anymore than he wants to see them go out of existence.

Engineering chief Dr. Wolfgang Schreiber also reportedly has said the car could reach 1,102lb-ft (1,494Nm) of torque with its quad-turbo W16 engine. That number marks an increase of about 20% over the current car’s 922lb-ft (1,250Nm), meaning a roughly equivalent increase in power at the same engine speed.

In another interesting twist, Bugatti’s boss also hinted that the company could take the new car racing, an activity that has been completely ruled out with the Veyron. What series or races the company might be considering are unknown, but Le Mans series racing and similar activities might carry the prestige and notoriety that would suit Bugatti’s image.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/bugatti-planning-veyron-successor-for-2011-12/

3000gtvr4
08-23-2008, 01:51 AM
they look like puke anyways

seinkonnen
08-23-2008, 02:42 AM
Greatest news i've heard all week about the greatest car ever made.

Although they should really probably try to sell the rest of those 300 cars first... Something they still haven't managed to do.

LabtopThief_jr.
08-23-2008, 02:44 AM
wow the first veyron was just mind blowing on how well and long it works now they're going even further, although 200hp may not really sound like a lot but that could probably 300mph or close to it right? Cause the first one reached i think 240-250mph and that was 1,000hp

MoToHeAd125
08-23-2008, 04:22 AM
The next thing for a company to do, is one up themselves.

rg3777
08-23-2008, 04:25 AM
faster but still ugly

seinkonnen
08-23-2008, 05:42 AM
wow the first veyron was just mind blowing on how well and long it works now they're going even further, although 200hp may not really sound like a lot but that could probably 300mph or close to it right? Cause the first one reached i think 240-250mph and that was 1,000hp

That extra 50mph could very well require an exta 400-500hp. An extra 200hp will only get them past 260 and maybe 270mph. I heard that the Bugatti Veyron only needs 200hp to get to 150mph, but to get to 250mph it needs another 700hp. Physics is doing everything in its power to stop that car when it starts getting past 200mph.

inferno14u
08-23-2008, 07:45 AM
That extra 50mph could very well require an exta 400-500hp. An extra 200hp will only get them past 260 and maybe 270mph. I heard that the Bugatti Veyron only needs 200hp to get to 150mph, but to get to 250mph it needs another 700hp. Physics is doing everything in its power to stop that car when it starts getting past 200mph.

Drag at those speeds is what makes going faster so much more difficult. If they can get the Cd down to .29 from .36 and still maintain the downforce the car currently makes, it would go a long way towards making 280+ a possibility.

seinkonnen
08-23-2008, 01:28 PM
Drag at those speeds is what makes going faster so much more difficult. If they can get the Cd down to .29 from .36 and still maintain the downforce the car currently makes, it would go a long way towards making 280+ a possibility.

Yes, you are correct. But I don't see Bugatti going that low with the car's drag coefficient. A .32 is as much as I see them going, in a much lighter car.

However no one is hitting 300mph in a production car for awhile.

300zdett
08-23-2008, 11:52 PM
Greatest news i've heard all week about the greatest car ever made.

Although they should really probably try to sell the rest of those 300 cars first... Something they still haven't managed to do.

i dont mind taking one off their hands

RED z32
08-24-2008, 03:06 PM
thats just the Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport in the picture, it was tested on BBC's Topgear

civic_guy116
08-24-2008, 03:15 PM
at first I thought that car was hideous...but its grown on me. It has a certain elegance to it and its hard to say anything bad about it. It definitely is unique in its design though.

RED z32
08-24-2008, 03:18 PM
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Bugatti-unveils-Veyron-Grand-Sport/

It has no more power than the standard Veyron , just a removable top.

inferno14u
08-25-2008, 05:59 AM
Yes, you are correct. But I don't see Bugatti going that low with the car's drag coefficient. A .32 is as much as I see them going, in a much lighter car.

However no one is hitting 300mph in a production car for awhile.

I don't think that a .29 Cd is too ambitious of a goal considering some of the cars that currently have reached it. Tire technology is one of the major roadblocks to that 300mph production car barrier. Not to mention that making 1,300 hp(a minimum for any car that is serious about reaching that barrier) creates lots of little serious issues such as cooling and fuel consumption/capacity.

seinkonnen
08-25-2008, 09:24 PM
I don't think that a .29 Cd is too ambitious of a goal considering some of the cars that currently have reached it. Tire technology is one of the major roadblocks to that 300mph production car barrier. Not to mention that making 1,300 hp(a minimum for any car that is serious about reaching that barrier) creates lots of little serious issues such as cooling and fuel consumption/capacity.

If you want it to look like a Toyota Prius, sure it's not a hard goal. It's not going under .32 I promise. And no one is hitting 300mph anytime soon, I can promise that as well.

LabtopThief_jr.
08-25-2008, 11:00 PM
That extra 50mph could very well require an exta 400-500hp. An extra 200hp will only get them past 260 and maybe 270mph. I heard that the Bugatti Veyron only needs 200hp to get to 150mph, but to get to 250mph it needs another 700hp. Physics is doing everything in its power to stop that car when it starts getting past 200mph.

wow, didn't know it took that much hp to go faster than 200mph

jomomma
08-26-2008, 05:21 AM
987hp (736kW) to 1,200hp (895kW) - enough to reach 270mph (432km/h).

jesus none of yall can fuckin reaD?

inferno14u
08-26-2008, 07:47 AM
987hp (736kW) to 1,200hp (895kW) - enough to reach 270mph (432km/h).

jesus none of yall can fuckin reaD?

It would appear that you can read but your reading comprehension is lacking.

94egg
08-27-2008, 04:51 PM
imo the veyron isn't the best in looks, but it is still an attention grabber in that category