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VH_Supra26
08-14-2008, 01:22 AM
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Update: Known as a ute in its homeland of Australia, the 2010 Pontiac G8 sport truck has officially been named the G8 ST in its adoptive American home. Revealed earlier this year for U.S. sale, the Pontiac-branded vehicle was then nameless, as executives reportedly weren’t happy with the rather plain ’sport truck’ label. Nevertheless, it seems those two words have inspired the acronym that is now official.

Confusion with the similarly-named G8 GT is likely, though any uncertainty will be only on paper, as in the flesh, there will be no mistaking the wayward spiritual offspring of the long-gone El Camino - a name which was itself in contention for the new car, given that strong familial resemblance.

“‘G8 ST’ was one of the most popular suggestions, plus we noticed a far broader trend toward simple, easy-to-remember names,” said Craig Bierley, product marketing director for cars and crossovers at General Motors’ Buick, Pontiac and GMC division. “We actually thought very long about El Camino,” he said.

“In the end, we felt it was more appropriate to honor the El Camino’s unique place as part of Chevy’s heritage and not use that nameplate on a Pontiac.”

The G8 ST is on track to make its U.S. debut in late 2009 as a 2010 model, featuring the same 361hp (269kW) engine as the G8 GT performance sedan, and zero-to-60 times of 5.4 seconds.

Original: Following months of rumours, General Motors announced today that their Australian branch, GM Holden, will export two new vehicles to North America to join the Pontiac G8. The new arrivals include a Pontiac G8 “sport truck”, based on the Holden VE Commodore Ute and the G8 GXP high performance sedan, both of which will soon be shown at the New York Auto Show.

The export programs were confirmed today by GM Holden’s new Chairman and Managing Director, Mark Reuss, who described them as great additions to Pontiac’s portfolio.

“It’s not everyday that a manufacturer announces a vehicle that creates a whole new segment in a market, but with this, the first ute export to North America in the form of the G8 sport truck, is exactly what Pontiac is doing,” Reuss said. While ‘utes’ (an Australian abbreviation for utility vehicles) are a dime a dozen Down Under, their presence has largely been ignored in the U.S in favor of larger, more rugged offerings like the Ford F150. However, this doesn’t mean that the ute is ’soft’ in any sense - the Pontiac G8 sport truck will sport a 6.0L V8 engine mated with a six-speed auto box that should get it flying, although in a car this powerful, the lack of weight at the back and the rear-wheel drive combination will likely lead to some hairy moments.

Not content to settle for the moniker “G8 Sport Truck”, Pontiac is running a competition allowing consumers to come up with a name for the new vehicle. The public will be able to submit their suggestions through the Pontiac website.

Full production of the Pontiac G8 sport truck will commence at GM Holden’s Elizabeth plant in South Australia, in the second half 2009 with the Pontiac G8 sport truck expected to arrive in dealers’ showrooms in late 2009.

Also being unveiled by Pontiac at the New York International Auto Show will be the new flagship vehicle of the GXP performance series, the G8 GXP, which adds to the existing line up of the G8 and G8 GT and will also be built in Adelaide starting later in 2008.

At the heart of the G8 GXP is the 6.2L LS3 small-block V8, currently rated at 402hp and 546Nm of torque, only 100 horsepower less than the new M5 and with similar practicality and weight. Purists will also be pleased to hear that there will be a manual variant with both 6 speed manual and 6-speed automatic transmissions available.

Pontiac is also reportedly considering adding an option for a V6 engine to its G8 Sport Truck lineup in the U.S. Holden already makes two variants equipped with the global V6 Alloytec engine, so it would not be unrealistic for GM to simply decide this late in the game to add the same basic models to the U.S. offerings.

Community feedback is playing a role in the decision making process, however. Given the low costs in bringing the model over, it may be more of an exercise in gauging the effect of the less-powerful model’s existence on the perception of the V8-equipped models than one of weighing the cost of import against the likelihood of sales.

Nevertheless, the added fuel economy of the smaller-displacement engines would be a potential selling point, even with fuel prices falling back somewhat from their crest earlier in the year. And though they may not be V8s, the V6s being considered are still quite potent. The two variants offered in Australia are rated at 180kW (241hp) and 195kW (261hp), which should be more than enough to preserve the ‘Sport Truck’ appellation intact.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/sedans/gm-confirms-pontiac-g8-gxp-and-ute/

heyitsryan
08-14-2008, 01:24 AM
That looks sick!

MoToHeAd125
08-14-2008, 01:26 AM
Good performance, but c'mon fkn badge it as a Chevy and call it the El Camino, because GM, you know wtf it is....

TXBlackout03
08-14-2008, 01:26 AM
So basically they said "fuck off" to everyone who entered that contest to pick the name. Great job GM.


Unfucking believeable. This was the name originally placed on the corporate email sent back almost a year ago.

JHizzleX
08-14-2008, 03:12 AM
bad idea on they're part...i honestly dont think it will sell..

i didnt see a price but my guess would be early 40s

i dont see why you would get that car when u can get a trailblazer SS or SRT8

TXBlackout03
08-14-2008, 03:39 AM
bad idea on they're part...i honestly dont think it will sell..

i didnt see a price but my guess would be early 40s

i dont see why you would get that car when u can get a trailblazer SS or SRT8

You're pretty much dead wrong.

This car is going to sell very well.

DC
08-14-2008, 06:28 AM
You're pretty much dead wrong.

This car is going to sell very well.

Sarcasm, I hope. People who want trucks aren't going to buy it (too low.) Those who are into coupes aren't going to go for it either (too long.) Where's the market for this? Saying it won't sell at all is one thing. If you build it, at least some people will buy it. The question is, how many of those will sell?

Replica
08-14-2008, 08:43 AM
You're pretty much dead wrong.

This car is going to sell very well.
Yeah, these rebadged Holdens have a GREAT history of selling well in the US. :Goofy:

dantheman
08-14-2008, 08:46 AM
bad idea on they're part...i honestly dont think it will sell..
i didnt see a price but my guess would be early 40s
i dont see why you would get that car when u can get a trailblazer SS or SRT8

Sarcasm, I hope. People who want trucks aren't going to buy it (too low.) Those who are into coupes aren't going to go for it either (too long.) Where's the market for this? Saying it won't sell at all is one thing. If you build it, at least some people will buy it. The question is, how many of those will sell?


both of you are dead wrong.

people who want the convenience of a truck and a sports car will buy this. the TBSS and SRT8 Cherokee while being great SUV's arent a truck, you cant load tall objects in them, you couldnt move out of your apartment with them, with this you can.

plus those two SUV's cost 40+. the G8 ST is going to be 27k base (with a 6.0 V8 that gets mid-high 20's on the highway) and they MIGHT release a GXP model which would be around 40.

imagine all the people who want a truck in big cities but it isnt reasonable to have a fullsize truck in a big city (houston doesnt count, we were built around F350's). the G8 ST manuevers like a car, handles like a car, drives like a car, but has a pickup bed which makes it insanely convenient.


i want one bad.

TXBlackout03
08-14-2008, 01:45 PM
Yeah, these rebadged Holdens have a GREAT history of selling well in the US. :Goofy:

The G8's are selling great, so i don't know what you are talking about? The GTO would have sold a lot more if it simply was not called the "GTO".

i want one bad.

me too

Replica
08-14-2008, 02:15 PM
The G8's are selling great, so i don't know what you are talking about? The GTO would have sold a lot more if it simply was not called the "GTO".

Yeah? Because I see a huge row of them every morning on my way to work. Perhaps the dealership down here just kinda sucks.

I'd roll the G8 ST, it's such a cool ride.

dantheman
08-14-2008, 02:47 PM
alot of older GTO enthusiasts wanted the new GTO's but wouldnt let themselves buy one because it "wasnt a muscle car"

if it was a pontiac Monaro or a G8 Coupe it would have sold well, no doubt about it.

it would have been more of a "oooo a new car" instead of "great another attempt to revitalize teh muscle cars" honestly i think teh charger ruined it for the GTO. it came out and soured people alot. so when they saw the GTO, they were thinking it would be a let down like the charger.

Replica
08-14-2008, 03:39 PM
alot of older GTO enthusiasts wanted the new GTO's but wouldnt let themselves buy one because it "wasnt a muscle car"

if it was a pontiac Monaro or a G8 Coupe it would have sold well, no doubt about it.

it would have been more of a "oooo a new car" instead of "great another attempt to revitalize teh muscle cars" honestly i think teh charger ruined it for the GTO. it came out and soured people alot. so when they saw the GTO, they were thinking it would be a let down like the charger.
The original GTO was a huge family car with a bigger motor. The new GTO was more of a sports car than the original.

skivic
08-14-2008, 03:40 PM
looks like ama be test driving that... i like the numbers.. not my type of car but looks nice...

mtran
08-14-2008, 04:39 PM
el camino.

meangreen94z
08-15-2008, 07:52 AM
Yeah? Because I see a huge row of them every morning on my way to work. Perhaps the dealership down here just kinda sucks.

I'd roll the G8 ST, it's such a cool ride.

I see acres of camry's everytime I drive by Fred Haas toyota?

Aguilera
08-15-2008, 08:03 AM
I like it alot!

Would like to see one slammed to the floor!

VTi EG6
08-15-2008, 09:00 AM
ROFL at anyone who spends money on that thing...

dantheman
08-15-2008, 09:04 AM
The original GTO was a huge family car with a bigger motor. The new GTO was more of a sports car than the original.
i completely agree.

midsize 4 seat coupe, huge engine = GTO

ive busted alot of classic GTO owners balls and asked them for whatever race they wanted. they never accept.

Replica
08-15-2008, 09:15 AM
I see acres of camry's everytime I drive by Fred Haas toyota?
Volume seller. Let's save some time, find G8 sales numbers? Don't get me wrong, I love the G8 and I was looking to purchase a used GTO until recently, but I don't think the G8 is going to sell great.

I can't wait to find 1-2 year old G8's for like $16,000. :thumb:
i completely agree.

midsize 4 seat coupe, huge engine = GTO

ive busted alot of classic GTO owners balls and asked them for whatever race they wanted. they never accept.
The original GTO is a slow heavy boat. There's nothing special about it stock. Don't they run like 15's?

dantheman
08-15-2008, 09:24 AM
Volume seller. Let's save some time, find G8 sales numbers? Don't get me wrong, I love the G8 and I was looking to purchase a used GTO until recently, but I don't think the G8 is going to sell great.

I can't wait to find 1-2 year old G8's for like $16,000. :thumb:

The original GTO is a slow heavy boat. There's nothing special about it stock. Don't they run like 15's?
actually the G8's are selling like hot cakes. so much so that most dealerships wont let you test drive them because they want to keep miles off them.

and as for the originals they ran 14's and cornered terribly and couldnt stop worth a shit. which is why its so fun to mess with them in the "shitty new gto"

alhusain
08-15-2008, 09:33 AM
GM should be building cars to help themselves.
This car to me is a gamble for GM...

Seriously, who will buy this car? This car is not practical, i dont care what any of yall say. And its kinda ugly. Maybe thats my opinion cause im not into these domestic sports and family cars...

Replica
08-15-2008, 09:33 AM
actually the G8's are selling like hot cakes. so much so that most dealerships wont let you test drive them because they want to keep miles off them.
I'm surprized. I see the same 8-10 of them at the local Pontiac dealer down here. I think it's "Gay" pontiac off 45. It's like Exit 15-17 or so. They even have that neat weird blue color too.
GM should be building cars to help themselves.
This car to me is a gamble for GM...

Seriously, who will buy this car? This car is not practical, i dont care what any of yall say. And its kinda ugly. Maybe thats my opinion cause im not into these domestic sports and family cars...
It falls into the same company as the 5-series BMW's. It is an odd segment, full size, slightly luxury sedan. Seems REALLY practical to me though, the inside is HUGE and so is the trunk space.

Evil Link
08-15-2008, 12:30 PM
front-end looks great but the whole El Camino is pretty whacked.

ST= stupid truck?

lsej8
08-15-2008, 12:43 PM
I still think GM should have made it the new El Camino, same chassis just a different fron end with a bowtie on it.

winc281
08-15-2008, 03:02 PM
not feeling it

TXBlackout03
08-15-2008, 06:16 PM
Volume seller. Let's save some time, find G8 sales numbers? Don't get me wrong, I love the G8 and I was looking to purchase a used GTO until recently, but I don't think the G8 is going to sell great.

I can't wait to find 1-2 year old G8's for like $16,000. :thumb:

The original GTO is a slow heavy boat. There's nothing special about it stock. Don't they run like 15's?


Between mid March and June 30, Pontiac sold 6,230 G8s, with a monthly breakdown as follows:

March 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 777
April 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 2,126
May 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 1,831
June 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 1,536


There were a total of 12,045 Pontiac G8s produced for the 2008 model year. This means that as of June 30, there are still 5,815 2008 G8s still looking for owners. Like I said, selling good.

Replica
08-15-2008, 06:20 PM
Between mid March and June 30, Pontiac sold 6,230 G8s, with a monthly breakdown as follows:

March 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 777
April 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 2,126
May 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 1,831
June 2008 Pontiac G8 sales = 1,536


There were a total of 12,045 Pontiac G8s produced for the 2008 model year. This means that as of June 30, there are still 5,815 2008 G8s still looking for owners. Like I said, selling good.
That's not bad at all. Hopefully that success will be as strong next year.

seinkonnen
08-15-2008, 07:52 PM
I think this UTE is pretty fucking sweet... I think it's going to have a great following in America.