toyota tundra: duAlly diesel

[VolksFaggin]

This mofo is BAD looking!

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/autoshows/sema2007/toyota/tundradually1.html

http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/autoshows/sema2007/toyota/tundradiesel/intro.jpg

[gismo4]

This mofo is BAD looking!

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/autoshows/sema2007/toyota/tundradually1.html

http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/autoshows/sema2007/toyota/tundradiesel/intro.jpg

nice, but do u think it'll do well? the tundra is one thing, but this would compete with purpose built trucks from ford and chevy and dodge... i'm skeptical about this one. it might do awesome, but I have my doubts.

[VolksFaggin]

Toyota really has stepped up the quality of their trucks. Heck, I have owned a ford and I will say my Tundra is as good if not better then the F150. I see more and more tundras replacing Fords and Chevys all day long and if Toyota keeps their quality up, this could end up taking a big share of the market.

[Moctezuma05]

I think they need to restyle the rear wheelwell a bit more, just doesnt flow well

[enron]

ATT: GM, Ford and Dodge,

Game Over.

Yours Truly,
Gen X/Y

[AlmostFamous]

Toyota really has stepped up the quality of their trucks. Heck, I have owned a ford and I will say my Tundra is as good if not better then the F150. I see more and more tundras replacing Fords and Chevys all day long and if Toyota keeps their quality up, this could end up taking a big share of the market.


While I'll agree the Tundra is better than the current F150, it doesn't touch the new GMT-900 Silverado and Sierra. Not only do both look better, the interiors are so much nicer than the Tundra's.

[AlmostFamous]

The Duelly Tundra is nothing more than a regular Tundra with even larger body panels and a supercharger. Pretty lame.

[blackrsx]

dually you dolts, it's spelled out for you on the picture even

[VolksFaggin]

dually you dolts, it's spelled out for you on the picture even

Aww why ya gotta be like that? Simple mistake. :thumb:

[edex]

I like it. I know if my dad was around, he would pick one up in a second.

[_relapsd.]

trucks is the only thing america knows how to do correctly. this wont do well. sorry.

[VIParisto]

man i love my 07 tundra now, if that comes out i get it in a heart beat

[gismo4]

Toyota really has stepped up the quality of their trucks. Heck, I have owned a ford and I will say my Tundra is as good if not better then the F150. I see more and more tundras replacing Fords and Chevys all day long and if Toyota keeps their quality up, this could end up taking a big share of the market.

i'm not doubting the truck, just the market. there are probably more narrow minded ppl when it comes to trucks than anything else. workin out in rosenberg, man. the stories I heard.

[jenzosunfire]

i dont know... the fords and chevys have always been the work trucks.. i doubt this will go well for toyota.. im sure they wont fail.. but i doubt they will out sell ford or chevy.. i think dodge might have wrapped up the market with the new warranty.. im sure anyone buying a work truck would care about a life time warranty...

[blackrsx]

Aww why ya gotta be like that? Simple mistake. :thumb:

yeah, but at least you won't make it again :thumb:

nothing personal, just hate seeing poor spelling

[VolksFaggin]

true. :thumb:

[VH_Supra26]

i think it looks real nice. if anything like it were to even come out i think it would do ok in US market.

[gismo4]

i dont know... the fords and chevys have always been the work trucks.. i doubt this will go well for toyota.. im sure they wont fail.. but i doubt they will out sell ford or chevy.. i think dodge might have wrapped up the market with the new warranty.. im sure anyone buying a work truck would care about a life time warranty...

x2

[94egg]

i think it should do well, just might take a while for those that are hard american truck fans to realize this could be a realiable truck too if not better

[Red88Si]

The Duelly Tundra is nothing more than a regular Tundra with even larger body panels and a supercharger. Pretty lame.

Toyota's Tundra Dually Diesel CrewMax has arrived at SEMA with an 8.0-liter I6 Hino oil burner under its hood.
...
The bed houses a 24K-pound fifth wheel hitch and preliminary information suggests that this truck is rated to tow that same amount.

Dear stupid,

You are dumb.

Yours truly,
me.

PS. Retard.

[murderface]

i just got a fucking hard on

[slideways2004]

24k lbs towing capacity? wow!! i can tow my race- car, house, and swimming pool with me

[94ExCoupe]

ATT: GM, Ford and Dodge,

Game Over.

Yours Truly,
Gen X/Y

:eyesjack:

[jatcesar]

that bitch is nice I know my dad has a dodge dually but he always has been a toyota man

[cookie_monstr]

ok..so the Toyota has their own diesel engine in this truck. its call the hino or some shit. well, caterpillar made a diesel engine for the 1/2 and 1 ton pick up market. this leaves out Nissan. does this mean that the titan is getting it? this would be interesting.

[enron]

:eyesjack:

Excellent insight. :hsugh:

[slideways2004]

ok..so the Toyota has their own diesel engine in this truck. its call the hino or some shit. well, caterpillar made a diesel engine for the 1/2 and 1 ton pick up market. this leaves out Nissan. does this mean that the titan is getting it? this would be interesting.

that would be badass! big ass turbo diesel titan w/ propane injection

[limgo]

trucks is the only thing america knows how to do correctly. this wont do well. sorry.

sure, right now american trucks are still some of the best, but people thought the same thing about high-performance cars back when muscle cars ruled american roads. true, most people here are gonna be more biased towards american heavy-duty pickups, but there are always those who are curious and open-minded. price will determine everything, and as much as i'm for the toyota truck, toyota's not the best at competitive pricing. they're gonna have to come up with some incredible incentives like exclusive features

Kris

[efhatch1]

Wow. I can see where some people would begin to feel very uneasy about this truck, truth be told I kind of am. Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge have always been the heavy hitters in the US. When Toyota stepped onto the scene with the late model Tundras it was kind of invasive, and now that they've started with Duallies I feel kind of "attacked". (For lack of better words)

As for performance, I'm sure it can/will contend.

As for looks, it's ugly as hell. But they all are, so more power.

[DoubleNutt]

Hott

[Agent S14]

when it comes to those the Ram dually is still the best.

[_relapsd.]

sure, right now american trucks are still some of the best, but people thought the same thing about high-performance cars back when muscle cars ruled american roads. true, most people here are gonna be more biased towards american heavy-duty pickups, but there are always those who are curious and open-minded. price will determine everything, and as much as i'm for the toyota truck, toyota's not the best at competitive pricing. they're gonna have to come up with some incredible incentives like exclusive features

Kris

uh, OBVIOUSLY there will be people who buy the toyota, but these will never replace domestic trucks in the the workplace. the toyota will be too fucking expensive. the only thing america can make is utility trucks. the are great and cheap.

think of it this way: say you were to own a business where you have 20+ trucks for all your workers who use them to their full potential on a daily basis. would you replace your fleet of trucks with the toyota just because it's a toyota? at pretty much double the price? this truck better give blow jobs.

sure, people will buy this truck but it wont even dent share of trucks found in commercial environments.

[Alex16]

i dont know... the fords and chevys have always been the work trucks.. i doubt this will go well for toyota.. im sure they wont fail.. but i doubt they will out sell ford or chevy.. i think dodge might have wrapped up the market with the new warranty.. im sure anyone buying a work truck would care about a life time warranty...

lol you go buy that dodge and get it warrantied.

I know people that work at dealerships for dodge, do you know what they do? Hell no you don't know shit. Dodge lifetime warranty is just a gag gift they give you when you buy the truck, most of the time they don't even fix stuff thats legit under a regular warranty, let alone a lifetime :roflmao:

Dodgesucks.com


Go check it out sometime.

Just so you know incase you didn't, automotive technicians that work at dealerships get screwed on warranty jobs...they don't like warrantying things and neither does the company.

[beardsm]

Everyone is intitled to there opinion,but I think it'll be up against big competitors.But I think it's going to be the price.And what's avaliable for it.:thumb:

[limgo]

uh, OBVIOUSLY there will be people who buy the toyota, but these will never replace domestic trucks in the the workplace. the toyota will be too fucking expensive. the only thing america can make is utility trucks. the are great and cheap.

think of it this way: say you were to own a business where you have 20+ trucks for all your workers who use them to their full potential on a daily basis. would you replace your fleet of trucks with the toyota just because it's a toyota? at pretty much double the price? this truck better give blow jobs.

sure, people will buy this truck but it wont even dent share of trucks found in commercial environments.


it's not just about how much the truck initially costs. say for example the toyota truck costs 10k$ more, but over a span of 15 years the maintenance and repairs on the leading domestic truck costs 12k$ more than that of the toyota. there's a net gain of 2k$ per toyota truck over 15 years. in that hypothetical business of urs where there's 20 + trucks, that's a potential savings of 40k$ over 15 years. simple math, yes, and if this were the case it should be a no brainer, but there are so many people that don't look ahead far enough to be able to see the benefit. plus the fact that there are no reliability reports available yet

and to get u goin even more, in a span of the same 15 years let's just say the toyota were to cost exactly as much as the leading domestic truck. but then let's say that since the toyota dually is brand new to the market, its eye-catching ability over the first 2 years is better than that of the leading domestic truck. if you have 20+ trucks in ur hypothetical business, that's 20+ billboards driving around, giving you what's essentially free advertising. with 20+ trucks, strategically spread out, that could yield more business simply due to target market awareness leading to your business being called for jobs more often.

it's all hypothetical btw so don't get too riled up haha

p.s. i'm just saying i'm kinda excited to see what this new toyota dually will do to the competition's market share

[Htown Runna 08]

This mofo is BAD looking!

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/autoshows/sema2007/toyota/tundradually1.html

http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/autoshows/sema2007/toyota/tundradiesel/intro.jpg



Looks pretty beefy :stare::leghump:

[krunkcrx]

wow this looks like it could run into a cement wall...
i like it alot.

[Los]

Since I have been driving my Ford F-250 Powerstroke, I can honestly say, the powerstrokes take some serious abuse. I have racked up 180K miles in 4 years. The truck had originally 82K miles when I took possession of it. So you are looking at a truck that has 260+K miles on it. The only problem I have had is an alternator gave out, replaced both batteries, and rebuilt the transmission.

For the Toyota Tundra to do well, they have to get owner to say the same things about it like I just stated above for the Ford. Once they get owners that can do that, they will take over the Truck market in my opinion.

[_relapsd.]

it's not just about how much the truck initially costs. say for example the toyota truck costs 10k$ more, but over a span of 15 years the maintenance and repairs on the leading domestic truck costs 12k$ more than that of the toyota. there's a net gain of 2k$ per toyota truck over 15 years. in that hypothetical business of urs where there's 20 + trucks, that's a potential savings of 40k$ over 15 years. simple math, yes, and if this were the case it should be a no brainer, but there are so many people that don't look ahead far enough to be able to see the benefit. plus the fact that there are no reliability reports available yet

and to get u goin even more, in a span of the same 15 years let's just say the toyota were to cost exactly as much as the leading domestic truck. but then let's say that since the toyota dually is brand new to the market, its eye-catching ability over the first 2 years is better than that of the leading domestic truck. if you have 20+ trucks in ur hypothetical business, that's 20+ billboards driving around, giving you what's essentially free advertising. with 20+ trucks, strategically spread out, that could yield more business simply due to target market awareness leading to your business being called for jobs more often.

it's all hypothetical btw so don't get too riled up haha

p.s. i'm just saying i'm kinda excited to see what this new toyota dually will do to the competition's market share

read los' post. the trucks run and run and run. no real big problems.

[Drink Tapioca]

it will be about 10k more than other dually's.

[limgo]

read los' post. the trucks run and run and run. no real big problems.

it was a hypothetical situation to give you guys something to think about in case some of you haven't thought about those points

[_relapsd.]

it was a hypothetical situation to give you guys something to think about in case some of you haven't thought about those points
hypothetically ur mom goez 2 college

[cookie_monstr]

but really...i dont think to many people would jump on the 1st set of trucks. not many people know about the engine.what defects could come with them. the fact that it comes with and eaton tranny...thats good! wish my dodge came with something like that. but oh well.

[Red88Si]

Since I have been driving my Ford F-250 Powerstroke, I can honestly say, the powerstrokes take some serious abuse. I have racked up 180K miles in 4 years. The truck had originally 82K miles when I took possession of it. So you are looking at a truck that has 260+K miles on it. The only problem I have had is an alternator gave out, replaced both batteries, and rebuilt the transmission.

For the Toyota Tundra to do well, they have to get owner to say the same things about it like I just stated above for the Ford. Once they get owners that can do that, they will take over the Truck market in my opinion.

That's really not that big of a deal, and oftentimes big diesels can get away with even less than you say you've had to do to keep yours up. 200, 300, 400k can be done in 2 or 3 years with some diesels and they'll still run and drive like brand new. That's an inherent trait of big diesels, since those engines and transmissions are built to take a FUCKton of use and abuse. That's why big 18-wheelers have major maintenance schedules every 500k or 1million miles.

[Los]

That's really not that big of a deal, and oftentimes big diesels can get away with even less than you say you've had to do to keep yours up. 200, 300, 400k can be done in 2 or 3 years with some diesels and they'll still run and drive like brand new. That's an inherent trait of big diesels, since those engines and transmissions are built to take a FUCKton of use and abuse. That's why big 18-wheelers have major maintenance schedules every 500k or 1million miles.
You missed the point completely. That can be said about Ford, Dodge, and GM trucks with diesel engines. Who can say that about Toyota ? Once Toyota can build up its reputation on being able to produce diesel engine trucks with that longetivity, then Toyota in my opinion will dominate the truck market.

[slideways2004]

You missed the point completely. That can be said about Ford, Dodge, and GM trucks with diesel engines. Who can say that about Toyota ? Once Toyota can build up its reputation on being able to produce diesel engine trucks with that longetivity, then Toyota in my opinion will dominate the truck market.

it will never dominate the market. especially if it cost more. you gotta think about the people who buy dually's. Most of them stick to 1 manufacter and just upgrade whenver they want to. Some poeple love their dodge or w/e they drive. they won't buy the toyota just b/c it has toyota written on it. i will probably never buy an american car. but when it comes time to buy a WORK truck, iwill probably go with ford diesel or the other 2 american makers. this is a different playing field b/c its not like your dealing with crappy unreliable american cars vs. reliable japanese cars. look at it this way

big 3 dually- cheaper, reliable, proven
toyota- new (maybe has bugs not worked out), more expensive, consumers have no experience with their deisels.

if this truck is going to be successful, its going to take at elast a couple of years

[cookie_monstr]

its not that consumer dont know about Toyota diesels...in fact they do. in the 80's they brought little diesel engines that whopped ass. i know im swallowing my own words..but my dad says that they make great engines. back in el salvador, mexico, and asiaian countries, toyota has small diesel engine truck running around since the 80's or even 70's(iv seen a 72 toyota diesel in el salvador with 450xxx plus original miles other than the normal wear and tear) that our parents have seen or even own. america might not know. BUT HOW MANY ASIANS AND HISPANICS ROAM AROUND HERE THAT KNOW ABOUT THESE TRUCKS!? look at the tundra. its growing.

[slideways2004]

its not that consumer dont know about Toyota diesels...in fact they do. in the 80's they brought little diesel engines that whopped ass. i know im swallowing my own words..but my dad says that they make great engines. back in el salvador, mexico, and asiaian countries, toyota has small diesel engine truck running around since the 80's or even 70's(iv seen a 72 toyota diesel in el salvador with 450xxx plus original miles other than the normal wear and tear) that our parents have seen or even own. america might not know. BUT HOW MANY ASIANS AND HISPANICS ROAM AROUND HERE THAT KNOW ABOUT THESE TRUCKS!? look at the tundra. its growing.

oh yeah. i forgot about the overseas toyota trucks. the new Hilux is badass!! i have seen one in person and it is much bigger than it looks in the pics.

http://www.carspace.com/arvin1/Albums/Japan%20cars/originals/toyota-hilux-2497.jpg/photo/v./original.jpg

[PissYellowGTi]

sucks that its only a concept

[White94CX]

Maybe it's the camera angle, but from the camera angle were looking at it from, the finish on the paint looks flat. Either way it looks badass....

I wouldn't go so far as to say how it would do, but there are two ways of looking at it. The first one you would say there are TOO MANY REDNECKS that woudn't take a liking to the truck too quickly. ALOT of Diehard Duracrap, Powerjoke, and Cummin fans....

On the flip side, 3/4 of the people that buy diesel powered trucks are YUPPIES anyways and would probably go for it, since Toyota makes a quality product anyways...

[Anti Muscle]

damn dat truck is sweet.

[_relapsd.]

On the flip side, 3/4 of the people that buy diesel powered trucks are YUPPIES anyways and would probably go for it, since Toyota makes a quality product anyways...

rofl. more like 3/4 the people who buy diesel trucks buy it to USE IT FOR WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR. MADE FOR WORK AND TAKING A BEATING.

[Red88Si]

You missed the point completely. That can be said about Ford, Dodge, and GM trucks with diesel engines. Who can say that about Toyota ? Once Toyota can build up its reputation on being able to produce diesel engine trucks with that longetivity, then Toyota in my opinion will dominate the truck market.

Last time I checked, we were the only ones NOT getting Toyota's diesel engined trucks. Or do you mean bigger engines?

Either way, a very reputable and reliable manufacturer of engines has provided the powerplant in that particular Toyota truck. From what I can tell from the "8 liter inline 6" blurb, it'll be a 6-cylinder J-family engine from Hino. Their website says it's 261 horsepower and 550 lbs of torque, so it's not too farfetched to think they hopped the Tundra version up.

Either way, reliability=proven in my opinion.

[_relapsd.]

Last time I checked, we were the only ones NOT getting Toyota's diesel engined trucks. Or do you mean bigger engines?

Either way, a very reputable and reliable manufacturer of engines has provided the powerplant in that particular Toyota truck. From what I can tell from the "8 liter inline 6" blurb, it'll be a 6-cylinder J-family engine from Hino. Their website says it's 261 horsepower and 550 lbs of torque, so it's not too farfetched to think they hopped the Tundra version up.

Either way, reliability=proven in my opinion.

domestic trucks already have that great reputation AND they're cheap. hard to beat something that's been proven over and over again.

[limgo]

hypothetically ur mom goez 2 college

ok i don't get it

[CarConnection]

i hope it has better brakes than the last tundra i rode in. with 5 people in the truck and roughly 200lbs in the bed i felt the ABS kick on multiple times in what i'd call typical stop and go traffic on 1960.

the trucks are monstrous, no doubt about that, but so far from what i've seen of them i'd still prefer a new cummins any day.

my .02

[LamTran]

^First time using ABS? ABS is always active. the jolting is normal. I heard that some of the tundra front caliper had TSB posted for replacement if you want to.

But yeah, I agree. I'd wait until several yrs after release. I do NOT care if toyota, new platform, new problem. Other than that I would get GM diesel.

[BoostedTypeS]

thats fuckin sick

[Hvguy]

omfg, toyota owns all car makers for thinking outside the box

[mk3ofdoom]

1 step closer to world domination :Ohnoez:

[holman_00]

so any one know how much dis truck goes for?????????????

[Ak1m0to]

Toyota reliability???

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk&feature=related

My dad owned a yellow late 70's toyota truck that ran until the ealry 90s and we sold it still running.

We then bought a 85 yota truck and also later sold it for a T100 which the buyer is still using it to this day. It had an oil leak because of a bad seal and my dad never changed the oil, just added some till he sold it.

The T100 is a 96 model and we still own it to this day, truck is running like a champ.

[VH_Supra26]

Evidence is mounting that Toyota and Isuzu are collaborating to develop a diesel engine for the Tundra as soon as possible. Recent announcements indicate Toyota can economically produce a diesel variant of the Tundra at sales volumes as low as 40k units a year, making production a near certainty.

If Toyota sources engine components from current designs, they could have a viable production engine in as little as two (2) years.

http://www.autospies.com/news/Diesel-Toyota-Tundra-Likely-in-2009-24300/