Official GT-R pictures **MERGED**

[al]

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/coupes/first-picture-2008-nissan-gt-r/

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/odds_and_ends/2007/10/02/skyline_GTR_1st_small.jpg

After months of spy shots and drip-fed teasers Nissan’s all new GT-R super-coupe has been revealed with the early release of the December issue of MotorTrend. The tagline on the magazine’s cover claims the car is as fast as the Porsche 911 Turbo and is priced less than $80,000, confirming rumors the new GT-R will set a new standard in bang-for-your-buck comparisons.


Other details include the GT-R’s acceleration time of 3.5 seconds for the 0-60mph and 11.7 seconds for the quarter mile. Top speed is claimed to be a staggering 192mph.

Although we still don’t have any official details about the car’s new drivetrain, most are expecting to see a 3.8L V6 engine fed by a pair of turbochargers and mated to a dual-clutch gearbox with the latest ATESSA all-wheel drive setup. The car should measure in at 4,650mm in length and 1,920mm across. There’s rumored to be three different flavors of the new GT-R, starting with a 450hp entry-level model and ranging up to a 530hp flagship. This latter version is expected to be a stripped out racer with plenty of carbon-fiber and a track-tuned suspension.

Stay tuned for the flood of official details and images once the car is revealed at next week’s Tokyo Motor Show.

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Odds/2007/10/Motor_Trend/motor_trend_cover_dec.jpg

haha MySpace angles applied to the new GT-R ... oh well, if it's ugly and fast, I dub it the AntiRice. Rook rike the POS FWD Eclipse in that pic tho :(

[JackHole]

it looks like ass

[xluv2eatx]

sweet, i already got one on reserve.....









not really, lol. it looks decent..

[-=E36=-]

hot

[al]

http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan GTR/bilde3ug4.jpg
http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan GTR/bilrrrdesd1.jpg
http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan GTR/ddsjs6.jpg

[al]

http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan GTR/dfsdoz6.jpg
http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan GTR/fsdfsfxw9.jpg

[conecrazy]

hate that window line. looks like a convertible with the top not completely up.

[-=E36=-]

black would make it look better.

[al]

black would make it look better.

agreed. Black would mask the Eclipse grille.

[SE_TEG96]

hmmm...not bad....i wouldnt mind buying this car...but it would not remain stock for long...cosmetically that is

[hondav-tech]

R34 GTR>GT-R

[heyitsryan]

The back looks awesome.The rest of the car kind of looks like a newer eclipse smashed into a 350z.WTFXors is up with the top?

[al]

R32 GTR > R33 GTR > R34 GTR > GT-R

ficksed

[conecrazy]

black would make it look better.

black with a car cover on top at night time make it look better. LOL

i'm sticking with the mantra, "if it has to grow on you, that means the you are just forced to like it's ugliness."

[-=E36=-]

ficksed


wrdddd

[Vinnyman]

wow, you people are soo fucking bitchy and picky. this car looks sick period.

spoiled brats.

[al]

wow, you people are soo fucking bitchy and picky. this car looks sick period.

spoiled brats.

Who are you? 80 posts and you are already a failure.

The car is going to be $70k+, if it is to compete with the likes of the Z06 and the Porsche 911 Turbo, one would expect it to look extremely nice.

[knoxciso]

http://static.paultan.org/gtr_proto_1.jpg

The idea is more harmonious, it looks like a 30k car, it will look better in person, ibgallardoheadlightcombinedwithwidebodybyveilside

[poorb0yw]

Wow, it actually looks worse than I initially thought after seeing early pictures.

[calichin9]

the front end hasnt grown on me yet, but the rest of the car looks good

[Vinnyman]

Who are you? 80 posts and you are already a failure.

The car is going to be $70k+, if it is to compete with the likes of the Z06 and the Porsche 911 Turbo, one would expect it to look extremely nice.
What does my post count and knowing who I am have to do making an obvious observation? Oh no, not another forum bully. What, are you going to do, tell the rest of your HI click on me? :lol: :weirdo:

Calm your ass down and don't get your panties up in a bunch. I just noticed the trend among this message bored. Just because it doesn't look like something you are use to doesn't qualify as it being shitty.

Typical forum moron.

[DA_LsVtAk]

al tryin to get my pee pee wet with these pics... mmmmmmmmmmm new GT-R is pure sex

[TXBlackout03]

What does my post count and knowing who I am have to do making an obvious observation? Oh no, not another forum bully. What, are you going to do, tell the rest of your HI click on me? :lol: :weirdo:

Calm your ass down and don't get your panties up in a bunch. I just noticed the trend among this message bored. Just because it doesn't look like something you are use to doesn't qualify as it being shitty.

Typical forum moron.

heh

[al]

What does my post count and knowing who I am have to do making an obvious observation? Oh no, not another forum bully. What, are you going to do, tell the rest of your HI click on me? :lol: :weirdo:

Nope, sounds like you're trying to be a forum bully. Consult with your quote from earlier.

wow, you people are soo fucking bitchy and picky. this car looks sick period.

spoiled brats.

That was a valiant effort trying to make me the antagonist. You are calling people bitchy and picky for not agreeing with you.

Calm your ass down and don't get your panties up in a bunch. I just noticed the trend among this message bored. Just because it doesn't look like something you are use to doesn't qualify as it being shitty.

Typical forum moron.

I think you should take your own advice. LOL poaned.

[conecrazy]

What does my post count and knowing who I am have to do making an obvious observation? Oh no, not another forum bully. What, are you going to do, tell the rest of your HI click on me? :lol: :weirdo:

Calm your ass down and don't get your panties up in a bunch. I just noticed the trend among this message bored. Just because it doesn't look like something you are use to doesn't qualify as it being shitty.

Typical forum moron.

Wait, so you're saying if it looks like something "we" are used to, it's shitty? I don't understand your logic. Even the Jack Sparrow compass would have a hard time following that one.

Aesthetic appearance and preference is subjective. While everyone agrees the raw numbers of the GT-R is very impressive, a lot of people do not agree on the way it looks. It's preference. You may happen to like it so therefore other people should too? If they don't they are "spoiled brats?" Who's really getting their panties in a bunch?

[Vinnyman]

Nope, sounds like you're trying to be a forum bully. Consult with your quote from earlier.
Howso? Just because I don't agree with most of the people on this forum doesn't make me a forum bully.



That was a valiant effort trying to make me the antagonist. You are calling people bitchy and picky for not agreeing with you.Valiant effort? Wow, what are you smoking? Because I want some.

Seriously, why bring up the subject of my post count and who I am? How is that relevant? It isn't. I'm looking at it from a neutral standpoint. I think the car looks damn good. You don't have to agree with me, and no way did I come across as "bitch, agree with me or else" BUT

I notice the forum trend of everybody agreeing with each other because they have "senority" meaning, "Oh look at me, I've been a member since 1950!" Your point is moot.



I think you should take your own advice. LOL poaned.
Poaned? O.o Am I to be impressed by your shitty lingo? :lol:

What are you, the HI Forum police? :really?:

[Vinnyman]

Wait, so you're saying if it looks like something "we" are used to, it's shitty? I don't understand your logic. Even the Jack Sparrow compass would have a hard time following that one. Oh really?:really?:

R34 GTR>GT-R
This is what I mean. People will hold on to what they are use to. Nature of the beast my friend. If you have a hard time following that, then surely you'll need your compadres to help you.


Aesthetic appearance and preference is subjective. While everyone agrees the raw numbers of the GT-R is very impressive, a lot of people do not agree on the way it looks. It's preference. You may happen to like it so therefore other people should too? If they don't they are "spoiled brats?" Who's really getting their panties in a bunch? Spoild brats in terms of, people are afraid of something different, so they express their thoughts by acting bratty and bitchy. Again, people fail to see my point. I'm not asking anyone or forcing for that matter to agree with me.

Reading is fundamental.

I don't understand, I disagree with masses and all of a sudden it's Me vs. World? :lol:

[al]

Your post count here is directly related to how tight you are with people here, and seeing that you really don't participate on this forum, I don't see how you can call people bitchy and brats without really knowing them. And yes, doing what you did is a form of "forum bullying". I believe you're trying to flame on someone to earn you some respect, since you're practically a noob. I think you should pick someone else.

So that said, you're the one who went off the deep end, so take a bit of your own advice and chill the fuck out before I get my "click" on you. :rofl:

[conecrazy]

Uh there are plenty of people on the board who think the GT-R looks fantastic. And there are plenty of people who think the car looks like ass. Nobody was offended when those opinions were stated nor were they acting bratty or bitchy on this thread until your post.

Reading is fundamental.

So is writing.

[al]

Ryan (-=E36=-) thinks the GT-R looks fantastic. Since his opinion differs from mine, I think I will Forum Bully the poor bastard and call him a bitchy brat.

[Fury]

"click" engaged.

[appleburger]

lol at random pms'ing noob.

i think the car looks like ass, but i can overlook that if the claimed numbers hold true.

[Aralliius]

wow, you people are soo fucking bitchy and picky. this car looks sick period.

spoiled brats.

LOL!!!!!

[AlleyKat]

lol at random pms'ing noob.

i think the car looks like ass, but i can overlook that if the claimed numbers hold true.
:wrd:
The front and side isnt looking too good right now.I like the tails though.I guess we will all have to wait and see it in person. :Ohnoez:

[emotiongear]

Al's previa > *

[Vinnyman]

This is exactly what I'm talking about, judging others by post count.

The reaction was expected. Now I have the "regulars" jumping on me because I dare challenged what most people agree on. What disturbs me the most about the entire "forum click" is that everyone sucks each others dick and will co-sign for each other. That was the main idea but of course you fucks would probably never understand that. :lol:

Noob pmsing? How would you know if I am cool with some of the people? Great fucking logic there! You make references to people that are suppose to be important? Do I care? Not really. Carry on with your business while I continue to post my opinions about Automotive News unless I became banned for some apparent reason. :lol:

Wow, some of you guys act like little girls. Quit being sensitive and accept difference in opinions.

[conecrazy]

This is exactly what I'm talking about, judging others by post count.

The reaction was expected. Now I have the "regulars" jumping on me because I dare challenged what most people agree on. What disturbs me the most about the entire "forum click" is that everyone sucks each others dick and will co-sign for each other. That was the main idea but of course you fucks would probably never understand that. :lol:

Noob pmsing? How would you know if I am cool with some of the people? Great fucking logic there! You make references to people that are suppose to be important? Do I care? Not really. Carry on with your business while I continue to post my opinions about Automotive News unless I became banned for some apparent reason. :lol:

Wow, some of you guys act like little girls. Quit being sensitive and accept difference in opinions.

As far as I can tell, you're the only one that has a problem with opinions that differ from yours. So, pot, kettle, black.

[DC]

"click" engaged.

Werd, we are now clicking.

[super cirrus]

lol at random pms'ing noob.

i think the car looks like ass, but i can overlook that if the claimed numbers hold true.

agreed

[Cstarflare]

i love it. nuff said.

[_Zac]

LOL @ priced like a Z06.. $20 says it's a turd.

[Dopavash]

I spy a spoiler option for my Z :eek9:

[al]

LOL @ priced like a Z06.. $20 says it's a turd.

everyone's entitled to their opinion. My opinion is to buy a previous generation Skyline GT-R ;)

More pictures.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.act.prf.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.crg.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.int.1.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.int.2.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.int.det.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.ip.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.r34.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.whl.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.act.f34.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.rint.500.jpg

[al]

This is exactly what I'm talking about, judging others by post count.

The reaction was expected. Now I have the "regulars" jumping on me because I dare challenged what most people agree on. What disturbs me the most about the entire "forum click" is that everyone sucks each others dick and will co-sign for each other. That was the main idea but of course you fucks would probably never understand that. :lol:

Noob pmsing? How would you know if I am cool with some of the people? Great fucking logic there! You make references to people that are suppose to be important? Do I care? Not really. Carry on with your business while I continue to post my opinions about Automotive News unless I became banned for some apparent reason. :lol:

Wow, some of you guys act like little girls. Quit being sensitive and accept difference in opinions.

:rofl: nice. Enjoy the pics ... for me, it's a nice car except for the strange styling. I prefer G35 coupes, the sexy lines of the Silvias, and Nissan-looking Skylines ... none of this feaux hardtop retractable nonesense.

[GraphIte]

fuckin' sick!

[-=E36=-]

O shit, is fucking al talking fucking shit about me? What the fuck? This means intraweb war.

[David NA->FI]

I'm going to suggest to my dad to reserve one. He has a G35 and likes the way the engine sounds, I'll go tomorrow and just write his name on the list at Nissan... LOL.

[Corrosive]

Sexy... I love the inside!

I cant wait for like 6 years when I can actually afford one, lol.

[DoubleNutt]

I respect the performance of this car if it holds true...But the styling on it is out there and may take awhile to get use too...But I can see where some cosmetic changes would give it a :thumb:

[tha_W]

The rear end is the sex front end is not.

[TrueSlide]

I respect the performance of this car if it holds true...But the styling on it is out there and may take awhile to get use too...But I can see where some cosmetic changes would give it a :thumb:

agreed, i suggest that the wing, wheels, and the slightly mundane silver don't really compliment the gtr's essentric body lines. some curves just shouldn't be out on display....sometimes:eek3dance

i say a lip spoiler on white with staggered (sp) black te37s won't make anyone cry:ninja:. but we'll just have to see

[al]

I'm trying hard to like it, but there are certain factors that scream homosexuality. Take for instance:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.ip.500.jpg

Can the "P" be any bigger and more obvious?

Secondly, where's the damned boost gauge? I would like it where the speedometer is ... contacting STACK, kthx

[gismo4]

LOL @ priced like a Z06.. $20 says it's a turd.

define 'turd' and you have yourself a deal!

[Renagade]

front end is ehh... but it might grow... rest is great.
interior looks like the cockpit of the Concorde!!! badass, but yet will be confusing too... hmm.

As for Vinnyman... dude, chill out, no one is agree with you everytime... its what makes us human, welcome to HI... home of the "flame"

[Renagade]

define 'turd' and you have yourself a deal!

ohh jesus christ here goes the ZAC vs. Jizmo again.. i got that $20 previously mentioned on ZAC!!! :Ohnoez:

[gismo4]

I'm trying hard to like it, but there are certain factors that scream homosexuality. Take for instance:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.ip.500.jpg

Can the "P" be any bigger and more obvious?

Secondly, where's the damned boost gauge? I would like it where the speedometer is ... contacting STACK, kthx

i agree, but there is another circular gauge just to the right of that 'P'. i wonder if that's it, or if it'll just be on the HU display.

and i'm also interested to see how this car responds to mods as nissan was quoted to saying that they left room for tuners to improve upon.

[gismo4]

ohh jesus christ here goes the ZAC vs. Jizmo again.. i got that $20 previously mentioned on ZAC!!! :Ohnoez:

what are you 16? grow some nuts and move on with your life. :thumb:

[Renagade]

I'm trying hard to like it, but there are certain factors that scream homosexuality. Take for instance:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.ip.500.jpg

Can the "P" be any bigger and more obvious?

Secondly, where's the damned boost gauge? I would like it where the speedometer is ... contacting STACK, kthx


umm probably like it is on the R34 that your screaming about being so much better, in the DTRD (Digital Telemtry Readout Display) above the center console... there a pic of it in that latest grouping of pics.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1016/08.nissan.skyline.int.1.500.jpg

BTW this thing will destroy a R34. It allready has around the Nurburgring :eek3dance

[Renagade]

what are you 16? grow some nuts and move on with your life. :thumb:

allways with the age thing... LOL dude for the last time.. go walk into oncomming traffic you fucker.:rock:

[LabtopThief_jr.]

the interior looks good but i dont like the square screen in the middle its too square lol. Everything else looks nice and i like the design except the front bumper, should have kept the GTR look but why not available in stick shift!!!??

[al]

BTW this thing will destroy a R34. It allready has around the Nurburgring :eek3dance

It damned well should

I've been trying to look for sexy pictures of the new GT-R, this is all I could find. It's probably what drivers in lots of other cars will see :kekegay:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/NISSAN_GT-R_Concept%282005_Tokyo_Motor_Show%29.JPG

[Vinnyman]

As far as I can tell, you're the only one that has a problem with opinions that differ from yours. So, pot, kettle, black.
God, what a faggot...if you're making a reference with a quote, at least say it right.

You're one to call the kettle black.

dumbass.

Ok ok, I'll stop. :really?: =P

Al: I personally like the car. It's something different. Honestly, It's one of those "Pics don't do enough justice" type of ordeal. :rock:

[Vinnyman]

LOL @ priced like a Z06.. $20 says it's a turd.
Slowly take Chevy's cock out of your mouth please. :lol:

[Vinnyman]

As for Vinnyman... dude, chill out, no one is agree with you everytime... its what makes us human, welcome to HI... home of the "flame"Every forum has their "click." It's ok to have fun with the regs every now and then. :really?:

[TXBlackout03]

Slowly take Chevy's cock out of your mouth please. :lol:

Chevy or not, this car will not be as fast as everyone is thinking it will be. I'll up the cash to $40. Anyone else taking bets?

[MaximaPower]

"not as fast as what everyone thinks it'll be??"

how fast does everyone think it'll be?

nissan targeted the 911 turbo and it already beat the 911 turbo around the track...they were talking bout going after the carrera GT, which i doubt they'll beat, but that's still sick!

[conecrazy]

God, what a faggot...if you're making a reference with a quote, at least say it right.

You're one to call the kettle black.

dumbass.

Ok ok, I'll stop. :really?: =P

Al: I personally like the car. It's something different. Honestly, It's one of those "Pics don't do enough justice" type of ordeal. :rock:

Try again troll.

[Dopavash]

Wow. This thread went fail real quick. Good going guys.

[gismo4]

Chevy or not, this car will not be as fast as everyone is thinking it will be. I'll up the cash to $40. Anyone else taking bets?

define that and i'll take you up on that offer too. in other words, throw out a track time you think it won't beat, or a trap speed it won't reach. something that shows it's a turd. and if it's reasonable, i.e. 911's time, i'll take you up on that bet. what's $20 or $40? nothing. all in good car talk fun. :thumb:

i'm not shit talking if you guys can't comprehend that. i just think it'll do really well while some think otherwise. small bet makes this fun. :rock:

[gismo4]

"not as fast as what everyone thinks it'll be??"

how fast does everyone think it'll be?

nissan targeted the 911 turbo and it already beat the 911 turbo around the track...they were talking bout going after the carrera GT, which i doubt they'll beat, but that's still sick!

the only one i think that MIGHT, a HUGE MIGHT, have a chance with a carrera gt, is the stripped out version they were talking about making. i say HUGE MIGHT, b/c it depends on the weight of the thing. 100 pounds lighter than stock isn't anything to brag about. 500+ pounds is though.

[gismo4]

God, what a faggot...if you're making a reference with a quote, at least say it right.

You're one to call the kettle black.

dumbass.

Ok ok, I'll stop. :really?: =P

Al: I personally like the car. It's something different. Honestly, It's one of those "Pics don't do enough justice" type of ordeal. :rock:

yeah, ppl on here tend to like american cars better. it's america, what should you expect? and about the 'pics don't do enough justice', i 100% agree. i used to dislike the rsx until i saw it in person. love the dam thing. ferrari's and lambo's look a MILLION times better in person than on a pic too. we'll just have to wait to see these things on the road.

[CarConnection]

i can't see a reason for the dual naca ducts on the hood... doesn't look like the serve any purpose at all unless it's a auxillary cooler for the heat sinks on the throttle bodies?

[winc281]

car is fucking sexy as hell..i think it would look better if the grill was the same color as the rest of the vehicle...hope they change that by the time production models roll out (not like i can afford one anyways)

[Vinnyman]

Try again troll.Yah, I'm definately the troll here with my oh so awesome 88 plus this post making it 89!

Good going McGyver!:_reeyon:

[Vinnyman]

Chevy or not, this car will not be as fast as everyone is thinking it will be. I'll up the cash to $40. Anyone else taking bets?We'll see about that. Looks are deceiving my friend. Remember, Bang for the Buck. So while people are paying high dollar for the vette, you can look to spend significantly less for something equally as fast with tons of room to mod! Don't knock it til you try it!:eek9:

[Mobil1]

God, what a faggot...if you're making a reference with a quote, at least say it right.

You're one to call the kettle black.

dumbass.

Ok ok, I'll stop. :really?: =P

Al: I personally like the car. It's something different. Honestly, It's one of those "Pics don't do enough justice" type of ordeal. :rock:

I'm the real forum bully around these parts.

Enough with the noob bitching.

[conecrazy]

i can't see a reason for the dual naca ducts on the hood... doesn't look like the serve any purpose at all unless it's a auxillary cooler for the heat sinks on the throttle bodies?

maybe it's to cool the intake manifold.

http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan%20GTR/bilrrrdesd1.jpg

It doesn't look like they lead to anything particular.

[Mobil1]

We'll see about that. Looks are deceiving my friend. Remember, Bang for the Buck. So while people are paying high dollar for the vette, you can look to spend significantly less for something equally as fast with tons of room to mod! Don't knock it til you try it!:eek9:

Personal examples of cars you have built for significantly less than the price of a used Corvette that will actually outperform one?

Don't support it til' you try it.

[edex]

personally I like it. The cockpit looks at bit confusing, and the squared screen doesn't flow with the rest of the dash. But I like it. :thumb:

[Vinnyman]

I'm the real forum bully around these parts.

Enough with the noob bitching.
Wow, what crawled up your ass and died?:lol: Is big brother here to save the day?

Sorry...not like everyone else. Ease up and a take a joke. Don't judge a book by it's cover Mr. Admin! :Ohnoez:

[Vinnyman]

Personal examples of cars you have built for significantly less than the price of a used Corvette that will actually outperform one?

Don't support it til' you try it. Ok now, this is just silly. Where in my post did I give a personal example of a car I built? Oh that's right, I didn't.

Good job flexing your e-muscle oh great man of HI!

Stop trying to critique every thing I say to take shots at me. This is the internet, lighten up! :eek3dance:eek3dance:p:p

[Vinnyman]

the interior looks good but i dont like the square screen in the middle its too square lol. Everything else looks nice and i like the design except the front bumper, should have kept the GTR look but why not available in stick shift!!!??I'm sure it'll be available in manual. The front end is the only beef I have with the car, other than that, it's pretty damn good looking!:Optimus:

[mtran]

imo, it looks fine. i think people expect too much of the gtr. i would cop if i had 70+k to spare.

[i-vtec195]

lol at random pms'ing noob.

i think the car looks like ass, but i can overlook that if the claimed numbers hold true.

yep. 11.7 with their AWD platform is very appealing.

[conecrazy]

yep. 11.7 with their AWD platform is very appealing.

Yup no doubt the numbers look great. A lot of people are complaining about it's weight. Try driving a car that weighs less than 3K lbs, high horsepower, and no wings for downforce. It's pretty unnerving. Even though this car is almost 4K lbs, it has a lot of grip and a lot of power to boot. Will it beat a Z06 around the track? The car is not out yet so we'll see. It would most certainly be more comfortable to drive around town that's for sure.

But I think they dropped the ball on its appearance. The front wheel arches distracts the flow. If they made the reference line a little bit more horizontal, it wouldn't make the rear wheels appear so much smaller. Also the window line makes it look like a convertible with the top not completely up.

[i-vtec195]

Will it beat a Z06 around the track? The car is not out yet so we'll see. It would most certainly be more comfortable to drive around town that's for sure.


on top of that, i'm pretty sure it won't nose dive in the reliability department of consumer reports either! :kekegay:

[conecrazy]

on top of that, i'm pretty sure it won't nose dive in the reliability department of consumer reports either! :kekegay:

Maybe if Toyota made it. HAHAH

[i-vtec195]

Maybe if Toyota made it. HAHAH

shit's like catching a disease. i think all their badge swapping with chevy over seas has finally started to show its side effects! :Goofy:

[gismo4]

yep. 11.7 with their AWD platform is very appealing.

i saw that, but you know how mag times are. i'm gonna wait until i see times from ppl at the track. like the c6 z06 hitting a 10.87 on dr's. that 11.7 could have been a driver who just floored it when the light turned green. no special launch or anything. or, it could've been the best time possible. but i'm being optimistic. i don't think nissan is gonna release a 'turd' as some have put it. it very well could be, but i'm gonna stay optimistic.

[conecrazy]

shit's like catching a disease. i think all their badge swapping with chevy over seas has finally started to show its side effects! :Goofy:

Yeah. If they make a deal with VW, that's like WMDs.

[94egg]

maybe with some cosmetic mod it will look awesome, but stock, the front, me no like, would rather have the previous models (if i could afford one, lol)

[TXBlackout03]

define that and i'll take you up on that offer too. in other words, throw out a track time you think it won't beat, or a trap speed it won't reach. something that shows it's a turd. and if it's reasonable, i.e. 911's time, i'll take you up on that bet. what's $20 or $40? nothing. all in good car talk fun. :thumb:

i'm not shit talking if you guys can't comprehend that. i just think it'll do really well while some think otherwise. small bet makes this fun. :rock:

Haha sounds good. I'm saying that official times arent going to beat the 911 turbo. Infact, I say it loses out by atleast 25 seconds.

Its on now suckas!

:hsrun::)

[TXBlackout03]

We'll see about that. Looks are deceiving my friend. Remember, Bang for the Buck. So while people are paying high dollar for the vette, you can look to spend significantly less for something equally as fast with tons of room to mod! Don't knock it til you try it!:eek9:

What do you mean by this post? The base GT-R is singificantly more expensive than a base corvette? Its even more expensive than the z06?

[-=E36=-]

Haha sounds good. I'm saying that official times arent going to beat the 911 turbo. Infact, I say it loses out by atleast 25 seconds.

Its on now suckas!

:hsrun::)

25 seconds in what? Nurburgring? It already beat it.

[TXBlackout03]

25 seconds in what? Nurburgring? It already beat it.

That was never official.


Unless I missed that somewhere?

[Jeff Goji]

Looks like a TVR had a one night stand with a 350Z.
I actually like it.

[Agent S14]

Man that car looks sexy

[GPerlInspire]

There seems to be something missing on the front bumper/end compared to the prototype.

[_Zac]

Slowly take Chevy's cock out of your mouth please. :lol:

Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your lil feelwings? Look around you, you are the only person here getting upset about this thing being an overpriced shit wagon. Not my fault Nissan tried to beat Porsche and in the process lost to a two year old Chevy.:lol: Not that an 11.7 is going to be enough to beat a 997 turbo anyway.:_reeyon:

Moreover, I hope Nissan isn't relying on styling cause as a sports car that thing is worthless at $80k.

[S54_M]

the rear is nice looking but other than that...

I dont really like it =\


I'll have to see/hear it in person

[Vinnyman]

Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your lil feelwings? Look around you, you are the only person here getting upset about this thing being an overpriced shit wagon. Not my fault Nissan tried to beat Porsche and in the process lost to a two year old Chevy.:lol: Not that an 11.7 is going to be enough to beat a 997 turbo anyway.:_reeyon:

Moreover, I hope Nissan isn't relying on styling cause as a sports car that thing is worthless at $80k. Hurt my feelings? Are you fucking kidding me? You left your self open so I decided to capitalize...but I know you don't like leaving a discussion without having the last word. Obviously, you're another "OMG, American>Everything else and is God." Go choke on a cow dick!:lol:

Back to the discussion at hand, I was refering to the new "Blue Devil" Corvette which happens to be a badass car. I like the Vetts, pretty neat. :eek3dance

[Vinnyman]

What do you mean by this post? The base GT-R is singificantly more expensive than a base corvette? Its even more expensive than the z06?Why the question marks behind your sentences? Are you not sure? :weirdo: :p

[_Zac]

Hurt my feelings? Are you fucking kidding me? You left your self open so I decided to capitalize...but I know you don't like leaving a discussion without having the last word. Obviously, you're another "OMG, American>Everything else and is God." Go choke on a cow dick!:lol:

Back to the discussion at hand, I was refering to the new "Blue Devil" Corvette which happens to be a badass car. I like the Vetts, pretty neat. :eek3dance

First off let me start by saying, you sir are a retard. No one on this site is American > everything, if you had made it past the third grade you would have enough reading comprehension to see that. You are butt hurt, you are a nut swinger, and you sir have nothing to "capitalize" on here. If you like it just say you do, if you don't like the majority here than join everyone else in saying so. Either way it shouldn't be hard for you seeing both options let you jump on the band wagon.:_reeyon:

[Mobil1]

First off let me start by saying, you sir are a retard. No one on this site is American > everything, if you had made it past the third grade you would have enough reading comprehension to see that. You are butt hurt, you are a nut swinger, and you sir have nothing to "capitalize" on here. If you like it just say you do, if you don't like the majority here than join everyone else in saying so. Either way it shouldn't be hard for you seeing both options let you jump on the band wagon.:_reeyon:

His little vacation will give him time to think about things.

[conecrazy]

Or at least enough time off so he can concentrate on passing the test to getting his driver's license. haha

[VolksFaggin]

http://www.wtfhost.com//files/252/Nissan%20GTR/bilrrrdesd1.jpg


This is the only picture I like of the car.

Much rather spend my money on a used 911.

[Renagade]

His little vacation will give him time to think about things.

Now thats not fair... he keeps talking shit and gets a vacation package!!

Ive been stuck at work for 33 days straight (oil industry... you sleep 12 hrs then work 12hr)

Damn.. i need a vacation, can i go to Cancuun!!!??? i hear its nice!:Goofy:

[gismo4]

Haha sounds good. I'm saying that official times arent going to beat the 911 turbo. Infact, I say it loses out by atleast 25 seconds.

Its on now suckas!

:hsrun::)

ah shit. i would've took 2-4 seconds. 25, it's on now nga!

[TurboFC3C]

I like the outside.

The inside looks like ass. The dash looks hella high, hopefully the driving position sits well. Those AC controls look like they belong in a chevy. The seats also don't look the part. Not as supportive looking as the GTRs of past.

I think they were trying to make it more luxury than race oriented. Alas, we'll see when it comes to dealerships.

[VH_Supra26]

im having mix feelings. but it does look pretty nice.

[al]

these next batch of pictures aren't bad

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441422356.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441424634.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441427234.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441420991.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441429559.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441423661.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441424173.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441417450.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441414001.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441417330.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441419213.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441416815.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441415213.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/10172007164540.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441410655.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441419966.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441411871.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441418618.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441413229.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441416904.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441423235.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441425363.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441425537.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441428266.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441424308.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441429459.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/W42/101720071441423815.jpg

[al]

MOAR PIX

http://www.sbbent.com/forum3/uploads/post-2-1192721442.jpg

http://russz.smugmug.com/photos/209811096-O.jpg

http://russz.smugmug.com/photos/209811108-O.jpg

http://russz.smugmug.com/photos/209811120-O.jpg

http://russz.smugmug.com/photos/209811140-O.jpg

[appleburger]

wowzers, that pic of the brakes and the guys head really puts things into perspective!

[MaximaPower]

GTR got numbers to back itself up

Motor Trend is now reporting that when the GT-R was lapping the Nurburgring, Nissan engineers recorded the best lap time at 7:35.

Reliable sources told Motor Trend that the Nissan GT-R beat the Porsche 996 GT2, Porsche 977 Turbo and the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren. The 7:35 time of the Nissan GT-R is one second slower than the Koenigsegg CCR and two seconds slower than the Pagani Zonda F.


977?
more here...
http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/10/17/nissan-gt-r-lapped-nurburgring-in-735-beats-slr-mclaren/

i dont know wat the time for the Z06 is but that's pretty fast

[-=E36=-]

FUCKING OWNED.

[i-vtec195]

a little tough to swallow at the moment.

but if it's true = pwnt.

[TXBlackout03]

We'll fuck. I owe someone 40 bucks don't I?


Anyways, the console computer and digital displays were all outsourced and designed by Polyphony Digital, also known as the designers of the Gran Turismo games.

http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/polyphony-digital-contracted-by-nissan.html

[Jeff Goji]

GTR got numbers to back itself up




977?
more here...
http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/10/17/nissan-gt-r-lapped-nurburgring-in-735-beats-slr-mclaren/

i dont know wat the time for the Z06 is but that's pretty fast

The Z06 is somewhere in the upper 7:4X.xx second range.

It may be ugly, but damn is it fast. :Ohnoez:

[Jeff Goji]

The Z06 is somewhere in the upper 7:4X.xx second range.


My bad, the Z06 apparently lapped it in 7:42.xx.
This wiki article has a good list of lap times near the bottom of the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

[gismo4]

We'll fuck. I owe someone 40 bucks don't I?


:D

[sicKnd]

techtronic = weak shit

[arkive43]

lolz at this thread....

[Agent S14]

lolz at my face....

lol

[arkive43]

lol,

im surprised that a lot of people dont like it....i love it. ill be first in line at the dealership to see if i can test drive it lolz...

[edex]

where's the boost gauge????

[TXBlackout03]

where's the boost gauge????

center console, its digital

[Agent S14]

lol,

im surprised that a lot of people don't like it....i love it. ill be first in line at the dealership to see if i can test drive it lolz...

Thats because a Nissan owners and enthusiasts can truly appreciate this car, Honda owners demand VTEC in every vehicle or its not worthy to them.

This car is going to be badass I cant wait till my friend gets his hopefully theyll have midnight purple as a color

[al]

something this advanced should not be touched by Nissan Service, or be sold by a filthy Nissan salesman.

[conecrazy]

I own 2 Nissans and I don't really like it. It's bad ass though. But it's not my one of my favorites. :)

[Agent S14]

something this advanced should not be touched by Nissan Service, or be sold by a filthy Nissan salesman.

AL MOTORSPORTS SHOULD SELL IT!!!!

[1990hatch]

it looks like ass

[al]

AL MOTORSPORTS SHOULD SELL IT!!!!

I has one. Buy you it.

[conecrazy]

Before you buy it, bring Al with you. He'll get the price down to half. hahaha


Salesman: I doo not teenk my *tock* *tock* manager will allow that price. *tock* *tock*

Al: That car is a piece of shit! Wait... *stands up to look at it* Yeah it's a piece of shit. I'll buy it for half...

[Agent S14]

I has one. Buy you it.

You have 20 to choose from nga!

al you are my hero <3

[i-vtec195]

or be sold by a filthy Nissan salesman.


you know they'll be misquoting the hell out of the specs, features, and heritage.

[conecrazy]

you know they'll be misquoting the hell out of the specs, features, and heritage.

I remember the Nissan salesman making a big deal about liquid filled engine mounts in the Maxima.

[al]

you know they'll be misquoting the hell out of the specs, features, and heritage.

and check it out *twinkle in teeth* it's got Four Wheel Drive and PosiTrac!

[i-vtec195]

and check it out *twinkle in teeth* it's got Four Wheel Drive and PosiTrac!

when i worked at john eagle, there was this moron salesman that looked like floyd from dumb an dumber. i sat there and stomached him telling this customer that the k20a3 in the si was the same as the d series in the civic ex's, except for that this one was DOHC. :stare:

shit blew my mind. ...and he said it in such confidence.

[Mobil1]

you know they'll be misquoting the hell out of the specs, features, and heritage.

Salesman: THIS CAR IS FASTER THAN A PORSCHE TURBO, HAS A DRIVETRAIN MORE ADVANCED THAN MOST EXOTIC CARS AND IS SO FAST ITS PREDECESSORS WERE BANNED FROM COMPETITION DUE TO AN INHERENT AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE!!!!

Oh wait, as absurd as all of those things sound...they aren't. :2cooleek:

[al]

Salesman: THIS CAR IS FASTER THAN A PORSCHE TURBO, HAS A DRIVETRAIN MORE ADVANCED THAN MOST EXOTIC CARS AND IS SO FAST ITS PREDECESSORS WERE BANNED FROM COMPETITION DUE TO AN INHERENT AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE!!!!

Oh wait, as absurd as all of those things sound...they aren't. :2cooleek:

Snap, great post! I'm going to Forum Bully a salesman.

[gismo4]

Thats because a Nissan owners and enthusiasts can truly appreciate this car, Honda owners demand VTEC in every vehicle or its not worthy to them.

This car is going to be badass I cant wait till my friend gets his hopefully theyll have midnight purple as a color

wow@ attackin honda owners. I like the car. I don't think anyone in here hatin has a honda.

[al]

wow@ attackin honda owners. I like the car. I don't think anyone in here hatin has a honda.

I think there are more Nissan-enthusiast haters because we were expecting something sexier.

[arkive43]

i still dont see how this car isnt sexy i love the styling those pics look like the first trim lvl just wait for the platinum edition (i think is called) pics....

[-=E36=-]

i still dont see how this car isnt sexy i love the styling those pics look like the first trim lvl just wait for the platinum edition (i think is called) pics....

R34/R33/R32 plus every previous skyline(GTR) that comes to mind has a completely different appeal. I agree that this one is quite a bit off track in everything minus performance.

[_relapsd.]

R34/R33/R32 plus every previous skyline(GTR) that comes to mind has a completely different appeal. I agree that this one is quite a bit off track in everything minus performance.

they stayed pretty close to the concept. what were you expecting?

[super cirrus]

Anyways, the console computer and digital displays were all outsourced and designed by Polyphony Digital, also known as the designers of the Gran Turismo games.

http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/polyphony-digital-contracted-by-nissan.html

does that mean we can expect tons of glitches?

[gismo4]

I think there are more Nissan-enthusiast haters because we were expecting something sexier.

see it in person and get used to it first. it's easy to pass judgement at first glance. at least that applies to me as well. i like it, but i have to see it in person. pictures usually don't do anything justice. that applies to more than just cars.

[al]

see it in person and get used to it first. it's easy to pass judgement at first glance. at least that applies to me as well. i like it, but i have to see it in person. pictures usually don't do anything justice. that applies to more than just cars.

Why, the R33 looked hot from the get-go

[conecrazy]

they stayed pretty close to the concept. what were you expecting?

actually I was hoping it wouldn't stay anywhere near the concept. :)

[super cirrus]

Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your lil feelwings? Look around you, you are the only person here getting upset about this thing being an overpriced shit wagon. Not my fault Nissan tried to beat Porsche and in the process lost to a two year old Chevy.:lol: Not that an 11.7 is going to be enough to beat a 997 turbo anyway.:_reeyon:

Moreover, I hope Nissan isn't relying on styling cause as a sports car that thing is worthless at $80k.

actually, if the reports are accurate, the GTR is a bit faster than both, at least around the ring

http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0712_2008_nissan_gt_r

And the 80k price is the top of the line model, I think the base model is closer to 50k. I am by no means a fan of the styling, but you gotta admit the perfermance is pretty impressive

[_relapsd.]

actually I was hoping it wouldn't stay anywhere near the concept. :)

it's a concept for a reason :)

[Jeff Goji]

There is always going to be a few hold-outs in the styling department with the fan boys.
The new Miata was met with a very similar mix of positive and negative reactions, but we felt REALLY let down as Mazda had kept the styling under pretty tight wraps.

At least Nissan showed the show car well in advance, and really made no secret about the styling direction this car was taking, and very little imagination (well let's face it, NO imagination) was needed to see what the exterior of the finished product would look like.
I don't see why the finished product should come as a surprise to anybody.

[Jeff Goji]

But look on the bright side!
If you get enough potential buyers bitching about the design, then like the new Miata, you may see a re-design in the very near future!
The NC is going under the knife for a face lift in 09, so maybe you could have a better looking GT-R by say, 2011? :p

[_Zac]

Salesman: THIS CAR IS FASTER THAN A PORSCHE TURBO, HAS A DRIVETRAIN MORE ADVANCED THAN MOST EXOTIC CARS AND IS SO FAST ITS PREDECESSORS WERE BANNED FROM COMPETITION DUE TO AN INHERENT AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE!!!!

Oh wait, as absurd as all of those things sound...they aren't. :2cooleek:

997 turbos run 11.50's in the quarter, so by faster I'm guessing you are talking about the "7:35" ring time. Which has only been "confirmed", but not not publicly confirmed by the company selling said car. Sounds like great salesmanship is at work here not great engineering.

Believe what you want, but in this case I think it wont perform as good as it looks, and that isn't saying much.

[Agent S14]

i still dont see how this car isnt sexy i love the styling those pics look like the first trim lvl just wait for the platinum edition (i think is called) pics....

Exactly compared to the new STI and Evo 10 the GT-R is far more better looking.

[appleburger]

more better lol

[Agent S14]

more better lol

thus nissan wins:eek3dance

[MaximaPower]

i wonder if the car lights up like this? minus the bluelights of course

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_tokyo/gallerys/nissan_gtr/images/19.jpg

[gismo4]

Why, the R33 looked hot from the get-go

wasn't much of a fan of the r32 or r33. i liked the way the r34 looked from the front. my favorite is the nismo z-tune. i think that car is perfect in the way it's made. nothing i would do to it except maybe more power. even then, it has plenty.

[_Zac]

Ricer.. lol

[-=E36=-]

997 turbos run 11.50's in the quarter, so by faster I'm guessing you are talking about the "7:35" ring time. Which has only been "confirmed", but not not publicly confirmed by the company selling said car. Sounds like great salesmanship is at work here not great engineering.

Believe what you want, but in this case I think it wont perform as good as it looks, and that isn't saying much.

What else would you want from the GTR to have appeal to you? The 997 turbo and this car arent meant to go in a straight line and even if the GTR runs a 11.7 in the quarter is that not respectable?

Motortrend is a fairly reliable source. I'd take anyone here up on a bet that that 7.35 time is real. :)

[i-vtec195]

What else would you want from the GTR to have appeal to you? The 997 turbo and this car arent meant to go in a straight line and even if the GTR runs a 11.7 in the quarter is that not respectable?

Motortrend is a fairly reliable source. I'd take anyone here up on a bet that that 7.35 time is real. :)

even if it hammers down all those times, he's obviously already got his mind made up that he doesn't like it. :o

[Fury]

even if it hammers down all those times, he's obviously already got his mind made up that he doesn't like it. :o
Trying to change a red necks mind is like trying to pry a bottle booze away from a hobo.....



Unpossible.

[LabtopThief_jr.]

What else would you want from the GTR to have appeal to you? The 997 turbo and this car arent meant to go in a straight line and even if the GTR runs a 11.7 in the quarter is that not respectable?

Motortrend is a fairly reliable source. I'd take anyone here up on a bet that that 7.35 time is real. :)

i prefer reviews from top gear, they test the cars to their absolute limits and tell you everything about it.

[LabtopThief_jr.]

wasn't much of a fan of the r32 or r33. i liked the way the r34 looked from the front. my favorite is the nismo z-tune. i think that car is perfect in the way it's made. nothing i would do to it except maybe more power. even then, it has plenty.

i agree with you on the ztune but i love all the skylines

[-=E36=-]

i prefer reviews from top gear, they test the cars to their absolute limits and tell you everything about it.

It doesnt really matter what you prefer. Motortrend does give times and usually they are very conservative but reliable source. They are much more about cars in general vs. performance. Everyone here will like Top Gear better, its a better show target more toward enthuiasts.

[gismo4]

Trying to change a red necks mind is like trying to pry a bottle booze away from a hobo.....



Unpossible.

lol

[super cirrus]

i prefer reviews from top gear, they test the cars to their absolute limits and tell you everything about it.

Even though at times they're terribly biast

example: the shelby gt500 episode

[_Zac]

What else would you want from the GTR to have appeal to you? The 997 turbo and this car arent meant to go in a straight line and even if the GTR runs a 11.7 in the quarter is that not respectable?

Motortrend is a fairly reliable source. I'd take anyone here up on a bet that that 7.35 time is real. :)

I don't dislike the idea of the car, but as always way more hype than car is being delivered.

[_Zac]

even if it hammers down all those times, he's obviously already got his mind made up that he doesn't like it. :o

I don't like people who worship it yet know nothing about it. It was built to beat the Porsche, but does it really beat it?

I'll give you some general things and you just tell me between the Turbo and the GTR which of the two you think is better than the other in that category.

Styling-

Handling-

Power-

Pimp status-

Interior-

Comfort-

Knowing you probably have never been in either car this is just from your observations. Be honest and let everyone know if it's 911, GTR, or a tie in these aspects.

Ready go.

PS the correct answers are 1. 911 2. yet to be seen tie 3. 911 4. 911 5. tie (I prefer the 911 with full leather dash) 6. tie (yet to be seen.)

[-=E36=-]

I don't dislike the idea of the car, but as always way more hype than car is being delivered.

how? its competing with supercars at a 1/10 of the price. R32 was fucking godzilla. ATTESA awd pwned everything at the time. Its history is full of fucking shit up.

I admit it might not be as pretty but

dont hate the player.....

[-=E36=-]

I don't like people who worship it yet know nothing about it. It was built to beat the Porsche, but does it really beat it?

I'll give you some general things and you just tell me between the Turbo and the GTR which of the two you think is better than the other in that category.

Styling-

Handling-

Power-

Pimp status-

Interior-

Comfort-

Knowing you probably have never been in either car this is just from your observations. Be honest and let everyone know if it's 911, GTR, or a tie in these aspects.

Ready go.

PS the correct answers are 1. 911 2. yet to be seen tie 3. 911 4. 911 5. tie (I prefer the 911 with full leather dash) 6. tie (yet to be seen.)


uhhhhhhh 7. price??????

[_Zac]

If you want a faster car for cheaper buy a Z06. Who cares about price we're talking about performance, comfort, style, and the feel of real leather here.

[-=E36=-]

If you want a faster car for cheaper buy a Z06. Who cares about price we're talking about performance, comfort, style, and the feel of real leather here.

Now you arent making sense. Why not just buy a foxbody and drop a Turbo setup in and have a fast cheaper car than a Z06 then?? It can go on and on...

[_Zac]

how? its competing with supercars at a 1/10 of the price. R32 was fucking godzilla. ATTESA awd pwned everything at the time. Its history is full of fucking shit up.

I admit it might not be as pretty but

dont hate the player.....

Looks like they should try harder than, cause I don't see this new one fucking anything up. (Above or below it's price range.):eek3dance

[_Zac]

Z06 not faster around any course.

Prove it?

PS. too fast for ya! ;)

[Jeff Goji]

If you want a faster car for cheaper buy a Z06. Who cares about price we're talking about performance, comfort, style, and the feel of real leather here.

If price is no object, then just buy a McLaren F1 or Ferrari Enzo and destroy BOTH cars both on and off the track.
Comfort wise, the Z06 has been pretty heavily criticized for it's ride comfort on the street.

As far as the track comment is concerned, so far the only track times we have seen have been for "The Green Hell", and the victor in that match is the GT-R.

[_Zac]

If price is no object, then just buy a McLaren F1 or Ferrari Enzo and destroy BOTH cars both on and off the track.
Comfort wise, the Z06 has been pretty heavily criticized for it's ride comfort on the street.

As far as the track comment is concerned, so far the only track times we have seen have been for "The Green Hell", and the victor in that match is the GT-R.

According to who again? Oh yeah Nissan, but they don't even have those mysterious numbers to show either now do they, they just have the rumor mill in full swing for nut riders to have a stepping stone onto the GTR bandwagon. /thread

Also, the point was to beat the Porsche 997 Turbo not the F1. Thus your argument is flawed from the start. Game ova!:thumb:

[_Zac]

Oh and anyone who has ever been in a new Z06 will tell you it is hands down a Daily Driver car. I don't see the GTR being DD anytime soon.

[Jeff Goji]

According to who again? Oh yeah Nissan, but they don't even have those mysterious numbers to show either now do they, they just have the rumor mill in full swing for nut riders to have a stepping stone onto the GTR bandwagon. /thread

GM did the same thing with the C6 generation of Vette before it's introduction, both for the standard C6 and the Z06.
Come to think of it, Dodge did that with the Viper too... Oh wait, EVERY car manufacturer has done that when it came to producing a high performance car.
So what makes Nissan so different in this case?
Manufacturer claims are just a part of the car business.

Also, the point was to beat the Porsche 997 Turbo not the F1. Thus your argument is flawed from the start. Game ova!:thumb:


I read this post of yours and assumed you were talking about the Z06:

If you want a faster car for cheaper buy a Z06. Who cares about price we're talking about performance, comfort, style, and the feel of real leather here.

If you are in fact trying to beat a Porsche GT2 instead, then, your argument is the most flawed of all.
You are trying to pit an $80,000 dollar car against a $150,000 car.
Of COURSE the $150,000 Porsche is going to be faster, look at that premium over the GT-R and tell me you would accept a Porsche that was slower than a GT-R for more money.
That is like pitting a $20,000 Miata against a $90,000 Dodge Viper.
That is Just plan absurd.

If we use that kind of logic, then you might as well compare the GT-R to the Veryon, or F1, or some other high dollar machine.
Yeah it will lose, but it wasn't designed to compete with those cars in the first place.
The same way it wasn't built as a head to head competitor against the GT2.

Oh and anyone who has ever been in a new Z06 will tell you it is hands down a Daily Driver car. I don't see the GTR being DD anytime soon.

Actually I have talked with a few Z06 owners, and the consensus is that the suspension is too rough for a daily driven vehicle (especially on Houston streets.)
EVO magazine and Top Gear also said the same thing.
So we could run around in circles arguing about something as silly as who's sources are right, but let's agree to disagree on this one.

We haven't had any real hands on driving experiences with the production GT-R have we? None that I've seen.
So to rule it out already as a bad daily driver is pretty pointless.

[TXBlackout03]

and have the pos fall apart on you. almost every magazine that tracks reliability claims the c6 and z06 models to be turds in that department. including consumer reports, which is actually pretty good when it comes to that shit. so yes, you get what you pay for. fanboy.


Do you just make up stuff to justify yourself? Please show me one link or pic of all these reliability claims.

Oh wait, here are some to completely disagree.

KBB


http://www.kbb.com/KBB/NewCars/ConsumerRatings.aspx?VehicleId=20989&ManufacturerId=9&Path=BlueBookReview&ModelId=45&VehicleClass=NewCar&SelectedTabIndex=0&YearId=2007&Filter=HasEReview

Edmunds

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/corvette/2008/ratings.html

MSN Autos
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Reliability.aspx?year=2007&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette&trimid=-1

You'll love this one.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=117522

JD Powers

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/reviews/review.aspx?ID=1104


Happy readings.

[Prelude_S]

the more i click on this thread the more it grows on me..

[i-vtec195]

kbb says that and avg 4.3 of 5 reliability rating based on 81 who voted. sure.

edmunds rated 7/10 which is mediocre in my eyes.

msn said there was no reliability report on their end. great find!

the other edmund's poll vouched for its reliability. not bad.

the jd power's segment mentioned nothing of its reliability, and seemed pretty much like an ad. and an overwhelming majority of service writers/managers i've met think that jd power polls are shit btw.



most of my claim is based on direct owner feedback, and what i've seen in a few magazines, such as this:

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ConsumerReportsSnapshot.aspx?year=2007&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette

Highs: Super car acceleration and handling, controls.
Lows: Fit and finish, turning circle, reliability.

Fit and finish, although improved, doesn't match the car's price tag.

Reliability remains well below average.

:Ewave1:

and that's about as much as i care to bicker.

[CK9887]

The Corvette is known to be a relaible sports car...I've read many things to back this up...
Usually in consumer reports when the "predicted relability" might be low... the owner satisfaction is at the top of the list... so explain that. Not to mention that there "predicted reliability" has a strong bias just because its labeled as a Chevrolet.
Another note, repairs and maintnence for the Corvette cost a fraction of other cars in its catagory.

[i-vtec195]

Usually in consumer reports when the "predicted relability" might be low... the owner satisfaction is at the top of the list... so explain that.

the corvette's definitely a blast of a car to drive, but it's another thing when you get 3 people within about a year telling you how agg'd they are when their favorite toy's in the shop over the weekend. in one case, it was "again." poor guy. :rofl: dood's got a sick z06 though. it's one of those burnt orange metallic looking ones. thing screams.

[CK9887]

the corvette's definitely a blast of a car to drive, but it's another thing when you get 3 people within about a year telling you how agg'd they are when their favorite toy's in the shop over the weekend. in one case, it was "again." poor guy. :rofl: dood's got a sick z06 though. it's one of those burnt orange metallic looking ones. thing screams.

From my experience with Vette owners, they always seem to be happy...
Yes, the Vette is cheaper than just about anything that comes close to it in performance, Chevy has to cut cost somewhere... This is why the interior feels cheap to some, and this is where some might find room to complain. But as far as many of the mechanical components like the engine (LS2) and transmission (T-56), its a very solid car
And again, in Consumer reports, The Vette tops the owner satisfaction list

[TrueSlide]

for gods sake the c6 makes 400 hp stock. z06, 505 hp. gets like 17/26 mpg or something like that. WHY ARE YOU HATING. Its made in america. Not gonne lie about that.

But we always bitch and complain "american cars suck", "they don't compare to real JDM tuning", "wa wa wa". And then a vette comes along that can really hold its own, in driveabilty, realiabilty, and power, and were still bitchin cause "the seats arent comfortable" "theres too much plastic", "the cup holder is small". Well damn it aint perfect. But it sure as hell is fast and easy to own/take care of. Damn you ever tried taking care of 505 hp Z. or a 400 hp rx8 or nsx. what about a porche, god help you if it breaks down. I know it possible but you still have to baby them, take good care of them. same is true here. Just be realistic.

Nit pick any car and you'll see something lame, japanese or euro. But i feel some people just have to strong a strong prejudice towards domestics. And they let it blind them to the occasional good U.S. car that does come around.

[TrueSlide]

oh yeah and the new GTR is going to make people pay far out the ass on track :)

[_Zac]

No need to say anything.. I think they have about summed it up.

[i-vtec195]

WHY ARE YOU HATING.

because you're obviously not aware enough to realize that zac has turned EVERY fucking gtr thread into a "the fucking gtr is over-rated, z06 this, z06 is this, z06 is that" thread. and it gets annoying as shit. it's a brilliant car, but by no means "gods fucking gift to motorsport." so keep that shit the fuck out of the thread and let it stay on topic.

[_Zac]

I was comparing it to the Porsche until someone else said Z06. Even the mag says it's a corvette "killer". HAHAHAHAHA I wonder if it can beat a normal LS3 at some things.

[Ls_DM]

haha at comparing the skyline with domestics, thats all i have to say. hahahahah, skyline... even the name is better than any other. thanks for bringing the skyline back nissan.

[CK9887]

haha at comparing the skyline with domestics, thats all i have to say. hahahahah, skyline... even the name is better than any other. thanks for bringing the skyline back nissan.


Wow... lets not get started.... I think most will agree your ignorant

[gismo4]

for gods sake the c6 makes 400 hp stock. z06, 505 hp. gets like 17/26 mpg or something like that. WHY ARE YOU HATING. Its made in america. Not gonne lie about that.

But we always bitch and complain "american cars suck", "they don't compare to real JDM tuning", "wa wa wa". And then a vette comes along that can really hold its own, in driveabilty, realiabilty, and power, and were still bitchin cause "the seats arent comfortable" "theres too much plastic", "the cup holder is small". Well damn it aint perfect. But it sure as hell is fast and easy to own/take care of. Damn you ever tried taking care of 505 hp Z. or a 400 hp rx8 or nsx. what about a porche, god help you if it breaks down. I know it possible but you still have to baby them, take good care of them. same is true here. Just be realistic.

Nit pick any car and you'll see something lame, japanese or euro. But i feel some people just have to strong a strong prejudice towards domestics. And they let it blind them to the occasional good U.S. car that does come around.

I don't think anyone is 'truly' hatin on the z06. it screams performance. but when there are two cars equally impressive, where do u go? some go to the interior, some reliability, some price etc... I say both are badass. I think the gtr will be up there with all these 'supercars'.

[AltimaGTR]

Damn, this has been quite a thread. With the onboard monitor thingie, I'd be worried about electrical reliability 5-10 years down the line (ie, when it becomes affordable).

[conecrazy]

Damn, this has been quite a thread. With the onboard monitor thingie, I'd be worried about electrical reliability 5-10 years down the line (ie, when it becomes affordable).

Nissan has been pretty reliable with their electrics. They aren't as bad as VW. ;)

[Ls_DM]

Wow... lets not get started.... I think most will agree your ignorant

your ignorant? haha nah dude i dont have an ignorant. learn how to spell man. w/e this will be my last reply i really dont like to whore threads. i really like the skyline btw.

[i-vtec195]

your ignorant? haha nah dude i dont have an ignorant.

haha. good one.

[_Zac]

I don't think anyone is 'truly' hatin on the z06. it screams performance. but when there are two cars equally impressive, where do u go? some go to the interior, some reliability, some price etc... I say both are badass. I think the gtr will be up there with all these 'supercars'.

Agreed.

[_Zac]

your ignorant? haha nah dude i dont have an ignorant. learn how to spell man. w/e this will be my last reply i really dont like to whore threads. i really like the skyline btw.

Skyline?

[-=E36=-]

Damn, this has been quite a thread. With the onboard monitor thingie, I'd be worried about electrical reliability 5-10 years down the line (ie, when it becomes affordable).

Sorry bud, they have that down pat, this isnt anything new for nissan. lol.

[CK9887]

No dobut the GT-R will perform....
I just dont think it has the capablilities of the Z06... (at least not at any reasonable cost).
And the Z06 has already been out for 3 years now, we should be seeing an even more powerful Z06 very soon. Which should be insane considering the current Z06 is capable of high 10s in the 1/4 with a sticky tire.
Traction is the only reason why we might see this GT-R with similar 1/4 times as the Z06... Anyone know what the GT-R is trappin at?

I didnt mean to bring this to a GT-R vs. Z06 topic.... But it seems only appropriate considering these 2 are the cheapest supercars on the planet.

[_Zac]

Quarter mile wise the Vette will destroy the GTR, but we're being fair to the other end of this and factoring the handling of both cars. Which would be a close battle. (So Nissan says)

[emotiongear]

who in America buys an $80k+ Nissan anyway?

[conecrazy]

who in America buys an $80k+ Nissan anyway?

I feel sorry for them when they take it in for Nissan "quality" service.

Sorry bud, they have that down pat, this isnt anything new for nissan. lol.

But since Polyphony made it, you only get 98% of it's full potential. LOL

When it gets here, it will have with heavy metal music. :)

[gismo4]

No dobut the GT-R will perform....
I just dont think it has the capablilities of the Z06... (at least not at any reasonable cost).
And the Z06 has already been out for 3 years now, we should be seeing an even more powerful Z06 very soon. Which should be insane considering the current Z06 is capable of high 10s in the 1/4 with a sticky tire.
Traction is the only reason why we might see this GT-R with similar 1/4 times as the Z06... Anyone know what the GT-R is trappin at?

I didnt mean to bring this to a GT-R vs. Z06 topic.... But it seems only appropriate considering these 2 are the cheapest supercars on the planet.

i'm not gonna argue the 1/4 times in stock trim. but being that's a twin turbo setup, and that nissan was quoted to saying that they left room for tuners, i'm anxious to see what a tune and basic bolt ons do to this car. i would just like to also ad that i won't really take the mag times to heart. 11.7 is more than likely a time they ran after driving for awhile on the first day. it could be right on the money, but time will tell.

[MaximaPower]

who in America buys an $80k+ Nissan anyway?

that's like saying "who in America buys a $70k+ Chevy"?

[gismo4]

that's like saying "who in America buys a $70k+ Chevy"?

or a $80k plus dodge.

[al]

who in America buys an $80k+ Nissan anyway?

something Nissan forgot to consider. I'd buy an $80k Infiniti, however. After emotiongear lets me borrow a few bucks.

[_Zac]

or a $80k plus dodge.

Both are proven sports cars here in the states. Despite what Nissan thinks Video games aren't going to earn them a fan base here, especially when everyone that can afford one is too old to care about gran tourismo. Just a thought.

[gismo4]

Both are proven sports cars here in the states. Despite what Nissan thinks Video games aren't going to earn them a fan base here, especially when everyone that can afford one is too old to care about gran tourismo. Just a thought.

I was agreein with maximapower. saying who'd buy a nissan at that price is like saying chevy and dodge. nissan has a proven track record too, and I think at this point in target consumer, price isn't a variable...I think I explained that right.

[Mobil1]

I was agreein with maximapower. saying who'd buy a nissan at that price is like saying chevy and dodge. nissan has a proven track record too, and I think at this point in target consumer, price isn't a variable...I think I explained that right.

When people think "I want a sports car and I can afford roughly $80k", Nissan is certainly not among the brands that immediately come to mind.

Nissan will have to make a name for themselves in the segment if they want to move cars at this price.

[CK9887]

When people think "I want a sports car and I can afford roughly $80k", Nissan is certainly not among the brands that immediately come to mind.

Nissan will have to make a name for themselves in the segment if they want to move cars at this price.

I agree...If you can afford an $80k car, most like you are your not gonna want to carry that boy racer image that this new GT-R screams.

[_Zac]

Agreed by all involved. This will be a tough sell in the segment. Z06, Viper, and 911 are big names in the United States. Nissan isn't thought of as a performance car maker on this side of the pond.

[emotiongear]

that's like saying "who in America buys a $70k+ Chevy"?

my point is, this car would have made a lot more sense being an Infiniti(an expensive Nissan) in the United States. People here dont just buy a car, they buy the service that comes with it. Infiniti service > Nissan service. You wouldnt want to be stuck with an $80k+ car with shitty service.

Here, the service that comes with purchasing the vehicle is as important as the vehicle itself.

I wouldn't dream of buying an expensive performance car from an "affordable" dealer. heh

[nacho_nissan]

turn up the boost on that gt-r and watch it run a 10 in the quarter. :)

the skyline that was out 10 years ago handled pretty good for a nissan, 10 years of development should have it near perfection. i wouldnt doubt if that gt-r beats a z06 at the ring. maybe a by a second, but either way it will be a tough match.

[_Zac]

turn up the boost on that gt-r and watch it run a 10 in the quarter. :)

the skyline that was out 10 years ago handled pretty good for a nissan, 10 years of development should have it near perfection. i wouldnt doubt if that gt-r beats a z06 at the ring. maybe a by a second, but either way it will be a tough match.

Yeah it could go fast, or it could blow up, fact is we don't know what it will do. Also, the old one wasn't a 3700# lead boat anchor. That could have been the key to it's excellent awd handling.

[AltimaGTR]

Hmm, looks like there's only 1 day left before TMS. Hope they have a full walkaround video of it.

[gismo4]

Agreed by all involved. This will be a tough sell in the segment. Z06, Viper, and 911 are big names in the United States. Nissan isn't thought of as a performance car maker on this side of the pond.

well, that remains to be seen. remember, there are those that have r34's and such who have money. ppl know of skylines and whatnot. the gt-r will definately strike the interest of these consumers. very rarely do i meet ignorant folks when it comes to sports cars. although, the first ignorant dude i met was at a HPD meet. lol. dumb redneck. back to point, posting these statements are meaningless until the car is released and the #'s speak for themselves.

Yeah it could go fast, or it could blow up, fact is we don't know what it will do. Also, the old one wasn't a 3700# lead boat anchor. That could have been the key to it's excellent awd handling.

all skylines have been relatively heavy in the 3500ish weight category. more power usually means more weight for a beefier chassis with an enjoyable ride to boot.

[appleburger]

well, that remains to be seen. remember, there are those that have r34's and such who have money. ppl know of skylines and whatnot. the gt-r will definately strike the interest of these consumers. very rarely do i meet ignorant folks when it comes to sports cars. although, the first ignorant dude i met was at a HPD meet. lol. dumb redneck. back to point, posting these statements are meaningless until the car is released and the #'s speak for themselves.

the point is that the VAST majority of the people that can afford these cars have no idea what a skyline is and therefore will just see it as a WAY overpriced nissan wannabe. sure there are those that have r34's but its only a handful. certainly not enough to warrant mass producing an $80k nissan. they better have some DAMN good marketing strategies up their sleeves!

[TurboFC3C]

And here I thought bench racing was a lost art form.

[i-vtec195]

And here I thought bench racing was a lost art form.

nope. you're witnessing the kings in action. they're so good, they know more than the press that's actually experienced the car! :kekegay:


i can't wait until the damn things actually make it over here and we can get first hand accounts.

[al]

And here I thought bench racing was a lost art form.

:rofl: :thumb:

[conecrazy]

I actually test drove it last night. I drove it around Suzuka Speedway. And I only had to wait about 20 minutes for the download and install to complete. :p

[Dopavash]

And here I thought bench racing was a lost art form.

I hear it has 5 wheels for extra handling, Wrd.

[Mobil1]

I can't wait to see this thread after the car hits the streets and everyone is proved wrong in some respect.

[Prelude_S]

so who won?

[Mycah Leonhart]

This car is going to kick all our asses.

[TurboFC3C]

1st Video of the GTR:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/tokyo-auto-show/tokyo-motor-show-new-nissan-gt+r-now-in-bra+less-video-314392.php

[-=E36=-]

man i like it a lot more now.

[al]

7:38 @ Nurburgring

uGe_fyhQazg

[keto06]

I dont think anyone has room to say what is racing and what isnt.
Miata a racecar? Depends who u ask.....

[YesSiR]

awww damn and with this vid here comes the drama again lol but this is right around where i believed the GTR would be i believe the 7:35 now lol but i'm sure someone will feel this vid's been manipulated or something

[Mobil1]

Thats a hell of a lap.

[al]

Thats a hell of a lap.

Yep. Ppl are trying to put the fire out, but I like adding more fuel.

The new GT-R doesn't look that ugly to me anymore. It's just that some angles looks like a POS New Eclipse.

[al]

snap, Yimmy noticed something strange about that video ... time is taken at the very end of that straight. Skip to the end, time for that video stops at the beginning of the straight. WHY.

[Rampage]

snap, Yimmy noticed something strange about that video ... time is taken at the very end of that straight. Skip to the end, time for that video stops at the beginning of the straight. WHY.

I believe thats the same thing they asked about when Best MOTORing did the time attack in the NSX-R which ran a 7:56.xxx. Same thing... wonder why.

[conecrazy]

I think that's the end of the track.

Clarkson also stopped his clock at around that point when he was trying to break 10 mins top gear.

[CK9887]

Also, not 100% sure on this but thats a moving start, wasnt the z06s time from a stand still?

[YesSiR]

all of the runs i've seen for official times at this track are from rolling starts be it production car or company race cars.

[Rampage]

Yeah... that might be why the NSX-R time was stopped there as well. That could be the end of the track.

Z06 was from a standstill?

[Tiger Styles]

Well, it actually looks better than i thought it would.

[Mobil1]

Cars running time trials at Nordschleife traditionally use a rolling start.

[LabtopThief_jr.]

sounds like sex to me, weird how it was pitch black in the wet condition spots. The video didnt stop at the beginning of the straight, he raced the full track? Unless yall arn't talkin about zac's video?

[yourmom25]

wow @ that video. that is crazy and it's so smooth.

[nacho_nissan]

turn up the boost on that gt-r and watch it run a 10 in the quarter. :)

the skyline that was out 10 years ago handled pretty good for a nissan, 10 years of development should have it near perfection. i wouldnt doubt if that gt-r beats a z06 at the ring. maybe a by a second, but either way it will be a tough match.

.. before the words blowing up even get around that motor those turbos will be maxed out. so no, it will not blow up with a boost controller. and.. the block is good for 1000hp. hard to believe? call bullshit all yall want, 20 years ago they designed a motor that held 700hp on stock bottom. 20 years later i know they know how to make them stronger.

z06? proven already, faster time at the ring than the z06. what else is there to say? less power than a vette, heavier than a vette.

nissan haters: before any honda race car, since the 70s, nissan was racing skylines and 510's. 40 years later, still making history world wide... :Optimus:

[heyitsryan]

.. before the words blowing up even get around that motor those turbos will be maxed out. so no, it will not blow up with a boost controller. and.. the block is good for 1000hp. hard to believe? call bullshit all yall want, 20 years ago they designed a motor that held 700hp on stock bottom. 20 years later i know they know how to make them stronger.

z06? proven already, faster time at the ring than the z06. what else is there to say? less power than a vette, heavier than a vette.

nissan haters: before any honda race car, since the 70s, nissan was racing skylines and 510's. 40 years later, still making history world wide... :Optimus:
Honda makes racecars?!?!

[Enron Exec]

Wow... totally forgot about the GTR for a few months and this video pops up. BADASS! :thumb:

Anyone have info on the tires on the GTR yet? Changing momentum on a 3800lb car isnt easy. God.. 3800 lbs. I just cant fathom how a 2 seater that size can weight so much. Did they double the steel on every part of the drivetrain so it could tow a trailor?

[Jeff Goji]

Good find on the lap video. :thumb:

[Mobil1]

Zac, where are you?