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al
09-13-2007, 04:45 PM
:really?:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=269154

McLaren stripped of team points, drivers unaffected
Racing series F1
Date 2007-09-13

By Nikki Reynolds - Motorsport.com

After hearing evidence all day in Paris in regard to McLaren's breach of sporting regulations by possessing confidential Ferrari information, the World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) finally concluded its deliberations and has stripped McLaren of its 2007 constructors' points and fined the team $100 million. The verdict almost certainly hands the 2007 constructors' title to Ferrari, although McLaren may appeal.

McLaren drivers Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton did not receive any penalty and can to continue to fight for the drivers' title, as the FIA previously stated that they would be exempt from punishment if they provided evidence. However, aside from Alonso and Hamilton, McLaren members won't be permitted to be on the podium should one of the drivers win.

"The WMSC has stripped Vodafone McLaren Mercedes of all constructor points in the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship and the team can score no points for the remainder of the season," the sport's governing body confirmed in a statement. "Furthermore, the team will pay a fine equal to $100m, less the FOM income lost as a result of the points' deduction."

McLaren has always maintained that a single individual (designer Mike Coughlin) was responsible for the situation and that the team was not involved in his actions. Evidently the WMSC thought otherwise, although the exact nature of the new evidence that led to the verdict has not been revealed. McLaren is "shocked" by the decision.

"This judgement comes as an extreme shock for all team members and, as demonstrated by the reactions of large parts of the public, the media and Formula One viewers, is a shock for large segments of the public as well," said Mercedes Motorsport Vice President Norbert Haug. "We will now fight with all our resolve in order to give a proper response on the circuit, as we last did in Monza, and to get justice before the court."

In a further statement McLaren principal Ron Dennis said he did not accept that the team deserved the punishment as the evidence they had given "clearly demonstrated" that no leaked information had been used to give an advantage. He added that the drivers had given evidence to the FIA stating that they had neither received nor used the Ferrari data.

"The entire engineering team in excess of 140 people provided statements to the FIA affirming that they had never received or used the Ferrari information," Dennis said. "We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home. The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today."

Ferrari professed to be satisfied with the outcome of the hearing. "In light of new evidence, facts and behaviour of an extremely serious nature and grossly prejudicial to the interest of the sport have been further demonstrated," the Scuderia said in a statement of its own. "Ferrari is satisfied that the truth has now emerged."

The saga first came to public light back in June when Ferrari initiated legal proceedings against its now ex-engineer Nigel Stepney. Initially it seemed that it was an internal team affair but shortly afterwards Stepney was sacked and at the same time McLaren announced it had suspended an un-named employee due to a Ferrari investigation regarding the receipt of technical information.

McLaren denied that any information had been passed to, or used by, the team. Meanwhile, the un-named employee was soon revealed to be designer Coughlin when Ferrari obtained a court order to search his house and discovered several hundred pages of Ferrari information. Apparently the data had been copied at a local photocopying shop and a suspicious employee had alerted Ferrari.

Coughlin agreed to provide a sworn statement to Ferrari regarding his involvement in the affair. The FIA launched its own investigation and representatives of McLaren were subsequently summoned to an extraordinary WMSC meeting in late July, to answer charges of breach of sporting regulations for being in possession of confidential Ferrari information.

At that meeting the WMSC deemed that although McLaren was in breach of the regulations by having the data, there was not enough evidence to prove that it had used the information to gain advantage in the championship. McLaren was therefore not penalised but the WMSC stressed that if further evidence came to light the team would be recalled.

Ferrari, unsurprisingly, was unhappy that McLaren had escaped punishment and was supported by the Italian Automobile Club, which argued that Ferrari had not been given sufficient opportunity to present its case. The Club sent a letter to FIA President Max Mosley and requested that he refer the matter to appeal. Mosley agreed and an appeal date was set for today, September 13th.

Then, early this month, the FIA announced that it was in possession of new evidence in regard to McLaren's breach of regulations and the WMSC was to be reconvened. The appeal previously lodged by Mosley was withdrawn and the original investigation re-opened. Shortly afterwards the FIA called on the McLaren drivers and test driver Pedro de la Rosa to supply any evidence relevant to the investigation.

It was reported that de la Rosa and Alonso had exchanged emails in which de la Rosa allegedly talked about Ferrari set up data that he had been given by Coughlan. Dennis has now denied that was the case but at the time Mosley specifically requested any electronic communication that made reference to Ferrari, Stepney and any technical information connected to either one.

At Monza last weekend McLaren was notified by the Italian authorities that it was under legal investigation, although no action was taken or charges bought. Finally the saga concluded -- possibly -- today in Paris when the WMSC passed its judgement and McLaren was stripped of its points and given the record fine.

The team will be permitted to race in 2008 but will have to present its cars to the WMSC for examination before the start of next season. "The WMSC will receive a full technical report on the 2008 McLaren car and will take a decision at its December 2007 meeting as to what sanction, if any, will be imposed on the team for the 2008 season," the FIA statement said.

The WMSC is due to publish the reasons behind its decision on Friday 14th and Dennis said that although he believes McLaren has grounds for an appeal he will wait for the findings before making a decision.

Ak1m0to
09-13-2007, 04:48 PM
Ouch, that's harsh...

DC
09-13-2007, 04:57 PM
Damn!!

xiao_CoUpe_boy
09-13-2007, 08:00 PM
lol just read that. fckin hilarious

hwoarang
09-13-2007, 08:20 PM
cliff notes please?

Cht1220
09-13-2007, 08:32 PM
damn..

LabtopThief_jr.
09-13-2007, 08:37 PM
wait they got fined for having info on ferrari?

koolaider
09-13-2007, 08:59 PM
^"confidential information"

LabtopThief_jr.
09-13-2007, 09:04 PM
^"confidential information"

ahh i see

al
09-13-2007, 09:57 PM
wait they got fined for having info on ferrari?

An engineer of Ferrari gave hundreds of pages of proprietary information to at least one McLaren engineer. What's funny is they were photocopying these documents at a copy shop (think Kinko's) and an employee alerted Ferrari.

You'd think one of these high paid engineers would have enough money to buy a multifunction printer.

DEADLYACURACCY
09-13-2007, 10:11 PM
Taken from F1.com

100million dollars would shut down a dozen NASCAR teams!!! LOL

McLaren fined and stripped of constructors’ pointsMcLaren have been excluded from the 2007 constructors’ championship and fined US$100 million following Thursday’s FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) hearing in Paris. Drivers Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton have not been penalized and are free to continue their fight for the drivers' title.

The penalty follows McLaren’s admission that the team was in breach of the International Sporting Code through their possession of confidential technical data belonging to rivals Ferrari, who are now all but assured of the 2007 constructors’ title.

McLaren are also required to submit detailed plans of their 2008 car to the FIA, who warned that it could apply further sanctions relating to next season should any irregularities be found in the car’s design.

At July’s original hearing, the Council opted not to punish McLaren as it decided there was no proof that the Ferrari data had been used. Thursday’s second hearing followed the emergence of new evidence and the FIA’s request for McLaren’s drivers to submit any information they had that might be relevant to the case.

The FIA will explain the reasons behind the Council's decision on Friday, after which McLaren will decide whether or not to appeal.

The full statement from the FIA:

In an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council was held in Paris on the 12th of September 2007, The following decision was taken:

"The WMSC has stripped Vodafone McLaren Mercedes of all constructors' points in the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championshiop an the team can score no point for the remainder of the season *.

"Furthermore, the team will pay a fine equal to 100 million dollar, less the FOM income lost as a result of the points deduction.

"However, due to the exceptional circumstances in which the FIA gave the team's drivers an immunity in return for providing evidence, there is no penalty in regards to drivers' points **.

"The WMSC will receive a full technical report on the 2008 McLaren car and will take a decision at its December 2007 meeting as to what sanction, if any, will be imposed on the team for the 2008 season."

The full reasons for this decision will be issued on the 14th September 2007.

* Points gained by other teams so far this season will not be affected.

** No McLaren representative will be allowed on the podium should a McLaren driver win any of the remaining races of the 2007 season.



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i-vtec195
09-13-2007, 10:27 PM
fucking owned! that's nuts.

al
09-13-2007, 10:38 PM
even for McLaren, that fine is SEVERE.

I'm wondering how they decided that the entire team is liable. Then again, I doubt the McLaren engineer acted alone. It must have cost a lot of money to buy that information.

BoostedTypeS
09-13-2007, 11:40 PM
thats too big of a fine IMO

gismo4
09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
heard about this on jim rome. you'd think that's a lot of money, but the sport is a multi billion dollar sport. that amount of money could be compared to a $50,000 fine in the NBA.

sucks, especially when the team didn't need to cheat.

tiedupfool
09-13-2007, 11:48 PM
$100,000,000?


thats alot of zero's :Ohnoez:

sherpagoodness
09-14-2007, 12:23 AM
cheaters never win....hope this doesnt get mr murray all upset

94egg
09-14-2007, 08:14 AM
i wonder if it was worth it, in other words, did that info help them in anyway? possibly not

Mobil1
09-14-2007, 09:39 AM
100M?!

Holy hell.

Formula One has become too political, they should start using the rules from 40 years ago.

conecrazy
09-14-2007, 10:54 AM
hehe F1 is only 50% racing. the other 50% is controversy. :)

misterfutureboy
09-14-2007, 11:07 AM
thats to damn much

DEADLYACURACCY
09-14-2007, 11:51 AM
I think based on the findings, its very appropriate.

WMSC: De la Rosa, Alonso shared data obtained from Stepney
A number of McLaren employees - including Pedro de la Rosa and Fernando Alonso - knew about the team’s unauthorised possession of confidential Ferrari information, and some intended to use that information in the team’s own testing.

That was among the findings of the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council, which published its full judgement on Friday afternoon following its decision to strip McLaren of their 2007 constructors' points and fine the team $100 million.

The findings contradict previous claims from McLaren that the Ferrari data had not spread beyond suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan, who allegedly received it from former Ferrari engineer Nigel Stepney.

In its judgement, the Council cites evidence of ongoing communications between Coughlan and Stepney, as well as between Coughlan and McLaren test driver Pedro de la Rosa, who the FIA claim “requested and received secret Ferrari information from a source which he knew to be illegitimate” and shared that information with world champion Fernando Alonso.

Emails between Coughlan, de la Rosa and Alonso formed part of the new evidence that prompted Thursday’s second hearing into the affair. July’s original hearing had found McLaren in breach of the International Sporting Code, but had not sanctioned the team due to lack of evidence.

The emails covered topics such as the weight distribution and braking system of Ferrari’s car, a flexible rear wing design and a gas used by the Italian team to inflate its tyres. They also suggested that Stepney had fed Coughlan real-time information on Ferrari’s pit stop strategy in this year’s Australian Grand Prix.

According to the Council, “The e-mails show unequivocally that both Mr. Alonso and Mr. de la Rosa received confidential Ferrari information via Coughlan; that both drivers knew that this information was confidential Ferrari information and that both knew that the information was being received by Coughlan from Stepney.”. In submitting their evidence, de la Rosa and Alonso were granted immunity from any personal sanctions.

The other new evidence related to communications between Coughlan and Stepney, which, according to reports from the Italian police, was of a far greater level than the Council had previously thought, leading it to conclude that Coughlan “was in receipt of a flow of confidential Ferrari information from Stepney.”

According to the Council, the new evidence makes clear that:

- Coughlan had more information than previously appreciated and was receiving information in a systematic manner over a period of months;
- the information has been disseminated, at least to some degree (e.g. to Mr. de la Rosa and Mr. Alonso), within the McLaren team;
- the information being disseminated within the McLaren team included not only highly sensitive technical information but also secret information regarding Ferrari’s sporting strategy;
- Mr de la Rosa, in the performance of his functions at McLaren, requested and received secret Ferrari information from a source which he knew to be illegitimate and expressly stated that the purpose of his request was to run tests in the simulator;
- the secret information in question was shared with Mr. Alonso;
- there was a clear intention on the part of a number of McLaren personnel to use some of the Ferrari confidential information in its own testing. If this was not in fact carried into effect it was only because there were technical reasons not to do so;
- Coughlan’s role within McLaren (as now understood by the WMSC) put him in a position in which his knowledge of the secret Ferrari information would have influenced him in the performance of his duties.

The Council concluded that “some degree of sporting advantage was obtained, though it may forever be impossible to quantify that advantage in concrete terms.”

al
09-14-2007, 11:54 AM
so what is being done about Stephny?

DEADLYACURACCY
09-14-2007, 11:56 AM
If anyone cares to read, heres the link to the whole inquiry and findings.

http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/17844641__WMSC_Decision_130907.pdf

Didnt see anything reguarding Stephny or Coughlin but something tells me their stint in F-1 is over and will forever be tarnished.

VH_Supra26
09-14-2007, 01:12 PM
wow, that sucks