Ward's 10 Best Engines 2007 ... is the VQ still there?

[al]

Indeed! 13th straight year.

The list:
Audi AG 2L turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Audi A3)BMW AG 3L DOHC I-6 (Z4 3.0si)
BMW AG 3L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (335i)
DaimlerChrysler AG 3L DOHC V-6 turbodiesel (Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetec/Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD)
DaimlerChrysler AG Hemi 5.7L OHV V-8 (Chrysler 300C)
Ford Motor Co. Duratec 35 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Ford Edge/Lincoln MKX)
Ford Motor Co. 4.6L SOHC V-8 (Mustang GT/Mustang Shelby GT)
Mazda Motor Corp. 2.3L DISI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Mazdaspeed3)
Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Infiniti G35)
Toyota Motor Corp. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)


Full article here:
http://wardsauto.com/home/best_engines_winners/

[keto06]

That list is BS. 2 Ford Engines and a Hemi ffs.

[-=E36=-]

I would have added a few other Benezezezez

[al]

That list is BS. 2 Ford Engines and a Hemi ffs.

I was wondering the same thing ... freaking Duratec? Interesting to note how behind American engineering is:

Ford's 3.5L V6 makes 265 hp and 250 lbft of torque while the Nissan and Toyota 3.5L V6es make 306/268 and 306/277, respectively. Is Ford using Nissan technology from a few years back?

Seems like America should also outsource engine design to Asia :kekegay:

[AaronSpecV]

I would have added a few other Benezezezez
Each engine must be available in a regular-production, U.S.-specification model on sale no later than the first quarter of 2007 in a vehicle priced no more than $54,000, a price cap indexed to the average cost of a new vehicle.

[Poonkla]

The only one I question is the Duratec.

[-=E36=-]

Each engine must be available in a regular-production, U.S.-specification model on sale no later than the first quarter of 2007 in a vehicle priced no more than $54,000, a price cap indexed to the average cost of a new vehicle.

:gonk:

[bambam69]

that new BMW N54 is killer man! thing puts out some serious power and torque. no surprise to see it on the list

[zerinVR6]

Audi 2.0T FTW.

[alf]

Audi 2.0T FTW.
2.0 TFSI ftw...

[Enron Exec]

Maybe the Duratec won becaue its extremely cheap to produce? :/

[tha_W]

Maybe the Duratec won becaue its extremely cheap to produce? :/

thats what i was about to say. ward's def has a score sheet to rank engines and such.

thats probably why bugatti's monster engine is not on there.

[al]

I thought Ford used union labor?

and tha_W ...

Each engine must be available in a regular-production, U.S.-specification model on sale no later than the first quarter of 2007 in a vehicle priced no more than $54,000, a price cap indexed to the average cost of a new vehicle.

[94ExCoupe]

al you sure do hate ford lol

[al]

al you sure do hate ford lol

LOL. Ford just needs to give up and simply sell trucks, Econoline vans, their high end Mustangs, and the Ford GT. Their other products are pure crap. They pissed me off with their Xterra clone Escape, complete with yellow paint and tubular roof rack. Isn't Ford trying to sell Aston Martin? Shucks.

[MR.BallisticKrU]

the answer is...

Maybe the Duratec won becaue its extremely cheap to produce? :/

[grnlude97]

I'll take my LS2 thank you very much :rock:

Daniel :)

[northsideracing]

Indeed! 13th straight year.

The list:
Audi AG 2L turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Audi A3)BMW AG 3L DOHC I-6 (Z4 3.0si)
BMW AG 3L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (335i)
DaimlerChrysler AG 3L DOHC V-6 turbodiesel (Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetec/Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD)
DaimlerChrysler AG Hemi 5.7L OHV V-8 (Chrysler 300C)
Ford Motor Co. Duratec 35 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Ford Edge/Lincoln MKX)
Ford Motor Co. 4.6L SOHC V-8 (Mustang GT/Mustang Shelby GT)
Mazda Motor Corp. 2.3L DISI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Mazdaspeed3)
Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Infiniti G35) Toyota Motor Corp. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)


Full article here:
http://wardsauto.com/home/best_engines_winners/
thats whats up! VQ engines baby!!!! :rock:

[Bleached]

I'm rather surprised a K20 or F22 series isn't on there, but then again I'm not. They have very good power/displacement especially considering they are NA. The reliability, strength, and tunability (new word) are excellent, but I guess it doesn't appear to be that great against superchaged V8 if you're only looking at hp.

Glad the VQ is in there though.

[Poonkla]

I'm rather surprised a K20 or F22 series isn't on there, but then again I'm not. They have very good power/displacement especially considering they are NA. The reliability, strength, and tunability (new word) are excellent, but I guess it doesn't appear to be that great against superchaged V8 if you're only looking at hp.

Glad the VQ is in there though.

You did notice that there aren't any supercharged V8s on the list, right?

[94ExCoupe]

LOL. Ford just needs to give up and simply sell trucks, Econoline vans, their high end Mustangs, and the Ford GT. Their other products are pure crap. They pissed me off with their Xterra clone Escape, complete with yellow paint and tubular roof rack. Isn't Ford trying to sell Aston Martin? Shucks.
the euro fords are cool :hs:

[Bleached]

You did notice that there aren't any supercharged V8s on the list, right?

Damn, you're right. Well I'll generalize and say higher hp and tq engines. Guess I look like an ass.

[eN_2_Oh]

Audi 2.0T FTW.

[Streetkred]

I'm rather surprised a K20 or F22 series isn't on there, but then again I'm not. They have very good power/displacement especially considering they are NA. The reliability, strength, and tunability (new word) are excellent, but I guess it doesn't appear to be that great against superchaged V8 if you're only looking at hp.

Glad the VQ is in there though.


FYI the 4.6 thats in there is not supercharged

3 valves FTW

[SubZeDiZeD]

Glad the VQ is in there though.

:cool:

What is it... 6 years in a row now?

[KA24DE]

I was wondering the same thing ... freaking Duratec? Interesting to note how behind American engineering is:

Ford's 3.5L V6 makes 265 hp and 250 lbft of torque while the Nissan and Toyota 3.5L V6es make 306/268 and 306/277, respectively. Is Ford using Nissan technology from a few years back?

Seems like America should also outsource engine design to Asia :kekegay:


Using that Argument Nissan Sucks because all they could get out of a 5.6l is 317 whereas GM got 315 out of a 5.3l. Or the toyota 4.7l at 271hp vs the gm 4.8l at 295hp. Both with the use of good ole 16 value pushrod technology.

[Streetkred]

Using that Argument, Nissan Sucks because all they could get out of a 5.6l is 317 whereas GM got 315 out of a 5.3l. Or the toyota 4.7l at 271hp vs the gm 4.8l at 295hp. Both with the use of good ole 16 value pushrod technology.

Good one


I was thinking the same but didnt want to enter into a pissing match

[edobear]

Just seeing ford on there really makes question the intelligence of the people behind the list

[AlmostFamous]

I'll take my LS2 thank you very much :rock:

Daniel :)


I'm surprised the ls2 isn't in there. A motor that produces way more power than the VQ, is lighter than some 6 cyclinder engines out there, and still gets better gas mileage


I was wondering the same thing ... freaking Duratec? Interesting to note how behind American engineering is:

Ford's 3.5L V6 makes 265 hp and 250 lbft of torque while the Nissan and Toyota 3.5L V6es make 306/268 and 306/277, respectively. Is Ford using Nissan technology from a few years back?

Seems like America should also outsource engine design to Asia :kekegay:


The VQ makes good PEAK power, but from all the dyno grafts I've seen of that particular engine, the curves are almost like a mountain. Plus the gas mileage is subpar.


Both with the use of good ole 16 value pushrod technology.


Alot of people forget, the ohc has been around alot longer than the overhead valve (teh pushrod). The ohc has been around since the early 1920's.

[5w20]

Using that Argument Nissan Sucks because all they could get out of a 5.6l is 317 whereas GM got 315 out of a 5.3l. Or the toyota 4.7l at 271hp vs the gm 4.8l at 295hp. Both with the use of good ole 16 value pushrod technology.

:wrd:

NO genIII/IV smallblock chevy me no care.

[al]

Using that Argument Nissan Sucks because all they could get out of a 5.6l is 317 whereas GM got 315 out of a 5.3l. Or the toyota 4.7l at 271hp vs the gm 4.8l at 295hp. Both with the use of good ole 16 value pushrod technology.

Thanks for solidifying my argument. Ford should keep making great trucks, and Nissan should get out of the oversized vehicle market. Too many of Nissan's V8 vehicles made it to the least reliable list.

Outsourcing engines to each other will become more commonplace in 10 years. It's a pretty common already, but back in the day, Mitsubishi motors in Hyundais was not the greatest idea.

[Texas Tacoma]

I was wondering the same thing ... freaking Duratec? Interesting to note how behind American engineering is:

Ford's 3.5L V6 makes 265 hp and 250 lbft of torque while the Nissan and Toyota 3.5L V6es make 306/268 and 306/277, respectively. Is Ford using Nissan technology from a few years back?

Seems like America should also outsource engine design to Asia :kekegay:

Funny cause we're acctually ahead of everyone in Flex Fuel Technology.
Thats the only engine on that list to have that capability

[zerinVR6]

The Duratec in the Edge IS a good engine. All of you who are bashing it have probably never even seen an Edge, much less driven one. It's an all new engine, so please...remove your heads from your asses.

[KA24DE]

The Duratec in the Edge IS a good engine. All of you who are bashing it have probably never even seen an Edge, much less driven one. It's an all new engine, so please...remove your heads from your asses.

http://dc.underclocked.com/crap/owned-damn.jpg

[heyitsryan]

lmfao.

[al]

The Duratec in the Edge IS a good engine. All of you who are bashing it have probably never even seen an Edge, much less driven one. It's an all new engine, so please...remove your heads from your asses.

Oh I see, all new = better and all new = proven, right? LOL

[DC]

:cool:

What is it... 6 years in a row now?
More like 11.

[Beretta]

Mazda Motor Corp. 2.3L DISI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Mazdaspeed3)

that is one mean ass engine

vq ftw.

[al]

More like 11.


Make that 13