All Electric EVO?

[myst1c_dr3amz]

Originally Posted by Autoblog

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If you've had the opportunity to pilot Mitsubishi's road-going rally rocket, you know that few vehicles in its price segment can match its combination of performance, handing and road-holding ability. So why mess with perfection? The answer is simply 'progress.' The Evolution has been the test bed of Mitsubishi's engineers for over a decade and when new technology needs a place to call home, the EVO is one of the first recipients.

Mitsubishi has been toying with in-wheel electric motors (or MIEV) for some time and although the first commercial application of this technology will find its way into Kei cars and other sub-compacts, the performance potential is undeniable. So when Mitsu's eggheads needed a development mule to show off what an all-electric performance car could do, they turned to their stalwart, the EVO.

Pop the hood and where the loveable, long-in-the-tooth 4G63 turbo'd two-liter used to reside, there now sits a large black computer module. In the trunk, it's the same story. However, move around to the wheel-well of your choosing, get down on your hands and knees and you'll see where the EVO gets its go. Behind each 20-inch (!?) roller, a 50kW motor is mounted. With four motors altogether, the MIEV EVO produces about 270 BHP and 382 ft.-lbs. of torque. With that kind of power, Mitsubishi expects their electric EVO to get to sixty in under seven seconds and have a range of about 150 miles.

We've seen concepts of such a vehicle in the past and rumors about Mitsubishi's endeavors into electric power are widely publicized, so it isn't a stretch to predict that some variation of an all-wheel-drive sedan is on the horizon. How far out, is another question entirely.

[laosonick]

????

[sky]

wow

[1989 DX R]

Pix of hardware. I've seen lots of Evos with stickers on them.

[Dorian]

This was in Motor Trend too iirc. And SCC.

[yourmom25]

badass. i'd buy it, but the only issue is how would you run the electric motors? rechargeable batteries?

[Rybo]

man thats stupid

[94ExCoupe]

badass. i'd buy it, but the only issue is how would you run the electric motors? rechargeable batteries?
only has like a 180 mile range or somethin

[wannarx8]

:weirdo:

[Marty McFly]

man thats stupid

yeah cars that dont require gas are really dumb :rolleyes:

[eN_2_Oh]

interesting.

[yourmom25]

man thats stupid
you're stupid. end yourself.

[gasaraki]

I'll take gas power over electric power any day.

[OneArmedScissor]

only has like a 180 mile range or somethin

you act like the old evos were much better. they had a damn zippo for a gas tank.

this is true. you can almost watch the gas guage running down.

[94ExCoupe]

you act like the old evos were much better. they had a damn zippo for a gas tank.

this is true. you can almost watch the gas guage running down.
but gas stations are everywhere with the exception long stretches of baren highways. Electric plug-in stations arent that common.

[OneArmedScissor]

but gas stations are everywhere with the exception long stretches of baren highways. Electric plug-in stations arent that common.

I think the point of this vehicle is to spur the infrastructure into creating these stations. for most people 150 miles of daily commute is pretty acceptable.

[94ExCoupe]

I think the point of this vehicle is to spur the infrastructure into creating these stations. for most people 150 miles of daily commute is pretty acceptable.
it would have to be a simeltaneous spur of electric cars and stations though. Stations wont be build unless theres a market for it (your point)
But unless these stations become more readily available no ones going to want to drive across town to refuel when they could go down to the nearest corner to get some gas. And yes 150 miles us acceptable for a daily commute, but how many people want to go out and refuel their cars everyday? Maybe once the power cell storage technology gets a little better.

[OneArmedScissor]

it would have to be a simeltaneous spur of electric cars and stations though. Stations wont be build unless theres a market for it (your point)
But unless these stations become more readily available no ones going to want to drive across town to refuel when they could go down to the nearest corner to get some gas. And yes 150 miles us acceptable for a daily commute, but how many people want to go out and refuel their cars everyday? Maybe once the power cell storage technology gets a little better.
plug it in at your house :)

[MR.BallisticKrU]

why:gonk:

[94ExCoupe]

plug it in at your house :)
i thought the load it put on the electric current was too much for a household circuit? or w.e you get what im saying, its been a while since i had circuits/electricity so my vocab is off

[ProRallyITR]

I'll take gas power over electric power any day.

Please excuse yourself from my planet. I'd prefer to leave a decent earth for my children and grandchildren. If you don't want to do the same, piss off. Between the innovative diesel technology being implemented by Audi's new R10 and fun concepts like this, I am thrilled about a future not dependent on oil (even for racing). Why would you possibly want a noisy, filthy combustion engine when you can have the same performance with zero emmissions? Granted, I would never want to live in a world where gasoline was eradicated, but a world where there was no dependence would be excellent.

[94ExCoupe]

Please excuse yourself from my planet. I'd prefer to leave a decent earth for my children and grandchildren. If you don't want to do the same, piss off. Between the innovative diesel technology being implemented by Audi's new R10 and fun concepts like this, I am thrilled about a future not dependent on oil (even for racing). Why would you possibly want a noisy, filthy combustion engine when you can have the same performance with zero emmissions? Granted, I would never want to live in a world where gasoline was eradicated, but a world where there was no dependence would be excellent.
because you know, you dont have 4x as many cars as everyone else....

and since when is it your planet.

you sound like some eco fag. get over your self homo. If you wanted to use electric shit you would have back when it was first implemented and not be waiting till now. Me driving my, YES GASOLINE, powered car today wont effect you, your kids, or your grand kids. Unless you know, your sucking on my exhaust pipe.

btw im not saying that im not trying to be eco friendly, but damn ppl are going over board with this.

[OneArmedScissor]

because you know, you dont have 4x as many cars as everyone else....

and since when is it your planet.

you sound like some eco fag. get over your self homo. If you wanted to use electric shit you would have back when it was first implemented and not be waiting till now. Me driving my, YES GASOLINE, powered car today wont effect you, your kids, or your grand kids. Unless you know, your sucking on my exhaust pipe.

btw im not saying that im not trying to be eco friendly, but damn ppl are going over board with this.
electric cars have the ability to mop the floor with the antiquated gasoline engines.

I care about performance. Instant torque is a fucking sexy thing. can you imagine how bad ass that evo is to drive?

[OneArmedScissor]

i thought the load it put on the electric current was too much for a household circuit? or w.e you get what im saying, its been a while since i had circuits/electricity so my vocab is off

capacitor banks maybe? ease the load by charging slowly.

i started building a railgun as a kid, but my friend's dad stopped me when the plans we were using got a guy arrested.

it worked though.

[Poonkla]

Please excuse yourself from my planet. I'd prefer to leave a decent earth for my children and grandchildren. If you don't want to do the same, piss off. Between the innovative diesel technology being implemented by Audi's new R10 and fun concepts like this, I am thrilled about a future not dependent on oil (even for racing). Why would you possibly want a noisy, filthy combustion engine when you can have the same performance with zero emmissions? Granted, I would never want to live in a world where gasoline was eradicated, but a world where there was no dependence would be excellent.

Ummm, you plug it in at your house, your power comes from coal power plants, you are still using fossil fuels (although more efficiently).

A solar car is one thing, this is another.

[Poonkla]

i thought the load it put on the electric current was too much for a household circuit? or w.e you get what im saying, its been a while since i had circuits/electricity so my vocab is off

Nah, you should be fine. You would need a charger installed though, it probably isn't something you could just plug into a 240V or 120V outlet. It would need it's on fuse in the breaker for sure.

[OneArmedScissor]

Nah, you should be fine. You would need a charger installed though, it probably isn't something you could just plug into a 240V or 120V outlet. It would need it's on fuse in the breaker for sure.

you could charge it with a PV (photovoltaic or solar) array. The new holographic arrays don't need to be aimed. they can be put at any angle and the light rays always hit at the optimum angle.

I wonder about the new PV arrays and the cost of them per square meter.

this could be a good way to power the car at the charge station :)

think ahead :)

[OneArmedScissor]

Ummm, you plug it in at your house, your power comes from coal power plants, you are still using fossil fuels (although more efficiently).

A solar car is one thing, this is another.

good thing you mentioned efficiency, since the turbines in coal plants are still the most efficient ways we can think of to harness the power from non renewable fuels.

[94ExCoupe]

electric cars have the ability to mop the floor with the antiquated gasoline engines.

I care about performance. Instant torque is a fucking sexy thing. can you imagine how bad ass that evo is to drive?
i didnt say anything about the performance of them, i know what their capable of. Im just saying, he came off pretty high strung like hes some god of the earth and everyone whos not using electricity is a criminal. I also found it ironic because he owns 4 gasoline cars. I own one. and i probly drive it for like 2 hours a week.

[IIIVOVE]

you act like the old evos were much better. they had a damn zippo for a gas tank.

this is true. you can almost watch the gas guage running down.

yes, this is true.:-/

[OneArmedScissor]

yes, this is true.:-/


but then again, who cares?
you have an evo.

stopping for gas is what keeps you from getting yourself arrested every time you turn it on.

Seriously, has to be one of the most fun cars i've driven.

[E-DUBB]

i like the body style.......

[Ak1m0to]

electric cars have the ability to mop the floor with the antiquated gasoline engines.

I care about performance. Instant torque is a fucking sexy thing. can you imagine how bad ass that evo is to drive?


Wrd, not a lot of people know that electric motors have instant trq.
Toyota may have an all electric truck coming out that rated close to 500 lbs trq right as soon as you hit the throttle.

[OneArmedScissor]

Wrd, not a lot of people know that electric motors have instant trq.
Toyota may have an all electric truck coming out that rated close to 500 lbs trq right as soon as you hit the throttle.

yeah, i can only imagine the performance capabilities.

i'd gladly dump the gasoline engine if i could have something fast and exciting.

why do eco friendly cars have to be so lame?
This thing shows promise.

[Knight]

there's nothing wrong with eco friendly cars, but i don't think electric cars will get us too far. In all reality recent developments in fuel cells is very promising. Most of our power is centered around environment damaging processes anyway. We're gonna run into some real problems. Props to Mitsu for actually pulling performance out of it though.

[pennywise]

yeah cars that dont require gas are really dumb :rolleyes:

lol

[94ExCoupe]

milin why did you change your name?

[LeetoEG6]

It probably doesn't even need to recharge....they could just use technology similar to what Honda and Toyota is doing with their hybrids. Basically the motor is used to power the car while its moving. Then it becomes a generator when you brake, by using the kinetic energy from the stopping motion and then converting that kinetic energy to electrical energy. The power from that force could be stored in battery cells inside the car. So in a way it recharges itself.

[Poonkla]

It probably doesn't even need to recharge....they could just use technology similar to what Honda and Toyota is doing with their hybrids. Basically the motor is used to power the car while its moving. Then it becomes a generator when you brake, by using the kinetic energy from the stopping motion and then converting that kinetic energy to electrical energy. The power from that force could be stored in battery cells inside the car. So in a way it recharges itself.

Great idea, but there is no way power could even come close to being completely conserved. The electrical requirements are a lot lower on the Honda and Toyota hybrids (only providing power when needed under acceleration) whereas with this car, the entire means of powering the car is through the use of electric power.

[Poonkla]

there's nothing wrong with eco friendly cars, but i don't think electric cars will get us too far. In all reality recent developments in fuel cells is very promising. Most of our power is centered around environment damaging processes anyway. We're gonna run into some real problems. Props to Mitsu for actually pulling performance out of it though.

I don't think you fully understand how fuel cell cars are being developed. The fuel cell provides electricity, which powers an electric motor. It could be used to power 4 electric motors like on the Evo above, or a single motor more traditional style setup.

Read about it some more here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-processor3.htm

[RockTheStock]

I'll take gas power over electric power any day.

I hope you would rethink your opinion after these videos :eek9: :eekbunny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqYbNEiW0Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGeQby7Jnw

[RockTheStock]

also,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD6r3-cw

[Bricksta]

man thats stupid
Is it stupid when theres no more gas.
Kill your self

[RoMoCOP]

http://www.desktopmachine.com/framepic.php?id=5410&size=1024

brakes....WTF

[Poonkla]

Is it stupid when theres no more gas.
Kill your self

You still have to charge the car and pay for that electricity. It's not like it's going to be free.

[94ExCoupe]

Is it stupid when theres no more gas.
Kill your self
kill yourself for being ignorant.

[RockTheStock]

You still have to charge the car and pay for that electricity. It's not like it's going to be free.

That what i was telling one of my friends. Electric company well have to upgrade their plants which are run by coal or what ever. Electric bills will go up in the end it might be the same price as gas..? maybe becuase of upgradeing the plants?:hsugh:

[Poonkla]

That what i was telling one of my friends. Electric company well have to upgrade their plants which are run by coal or what ever. Electric bills will go up in the end it might be the same price as gas..? maybe becuase of upgradeing the plants?:hsugh:

I wouldn't go that far, they should be able to handle it.

[myst1c_dr3amz]

its pointless to "recharge it in your house" this crap should be self sustaining to actually get some true respect... or better yet get that fusion generator from back to the future 2 and use trash for fuel:cool:

[Poonkla]

its pointless to "recharge it in your house" this crap should be self sustaining to actually get some true respect... or better yet get that fusion generator from back to the future 2 and use trash for fuel:cool:

Do you understand the concept of conservation of energy and how it works? This isn't ramblings, take your garbage elsewhere.

[crx-si]

so my question is how long does it take to charge up a car like that? say, I'm going out of state and decide to drive my car, if my car run out of gas, it take about 10 minutes to get gas at the gas station, what do I do then with that electric car? like sitting there for the next 4hrs wait for it to charge up? I think all electric power vehicle is can only be the idea of dumbasses......and all the eco fags, tree huggers can take that car and shove it up their asses...

[5w20]

so my question is how long does it take to charge up a car like that? say, I'm going out of state and decide to drive my car, if my car run out of gas, it take about 10 minutes to get gas at the gas station, what do I do then with that electric car? like sitting there for the next 4hrs wait for it to charge up? I think all electric power vehicle is can only be the idea of dumbasses......and all the eco fags, tree huggers can take that car and shove it up their asses...


:rofl:

[Poonkla]

so my question is how long does it take to charge up a car like that? say, I'm going out of state and decide to drive my car, if my car run out of gas, it take about 10 minutes to get gas at the gas station, what do I do then with that electric car? like sitting there for the next 4hrs wait for it to charge up? I think all electric power vehicle is can only be the idea of dumbasses......and all the eco fags, tree huggers can take that car and shove it up their asses...

Ok, you've stumbled across one of the real reasons why electric cars aren't feasible at this time. Right now, there isn't a solution for long distance travel, but it is much more cost effective to just drive to work/mall/groceries.

[crx-si]

Ok, you've stumbled across one of the real reasons why electric cars aren't feasible at this time. Right now, there isn't a solution for long distance travel, but it is much more cost effective to just drive to work/mall/groceries.
so in order for me travel long distances I need a gasoline power vehicle and short distances with the electric car to have more cost effective?? so 2 cars = more cost effective? and what about the electric bill? how much will that increase on my bill? like $200 more a month? I fill up my civic twice a week @ $22 each time ( I drive a little over 500 miles each week, yes I do drive alot), that would come out almost $200 each month on my gasoline, how's that for compare to the electric car?? If I really want an electric vehicle, I'll get a golf cart and be done with it....

[Poonkla]

so in order for me travel long distances I need a gasoline power vehicle and short distances with the electric car to have more cost effective?? so 2 cars = more cost effective? and what about the electric bill? how much will that increase on my bill? like $200 more a month? I fill up my civic twice a week @ $22 each time ( I drive a little over 500 miles each week, yes I do drive alot), that would come out almost $200 each month on my gasoline, how's that for compare to the electric car?? If I really want an electric vehicle, I'll get a golf cart and be done with it....

You have misinterpreted what I said. For small trips around the city, an electric car is more efficient. For longer trips, we need to devise a quick recharge scenario or it's not plausible.

It would only increase your electric bill by the amount you would use it, and I haven't seen any hard numbers.