What kind

[All-Star]

What kind of camera should i buy for a beginer photographer?
whats a good place to get one?

[Todd Spoth]

What kind of camera should i buy for a beginer photographer?
whats a good place to get one?

buy a disposable, you can get them at walmart. master that and move up.

or a simple film camera. i have several i can sell if you want.

[3gen_venn]

polaroids are great too. :thumb:

[David Seale]

why not get one that will allow him to progress in the future once he gets better? especially not film since it would be a waste (imo) to get everything printed every week or two.

i say find a point and shoot that also has manual controls for once you get better and understand everything more. i havent looked at whats out there lately but look at the canon a620 or something like that.

[preludex228]

why not get one that will allow him to progress in the future once he gets better? especially not film since it would be a waste (imo) to get everything printed every week or two.

i say find a point and shoot that also has manual controls for once you get better and understand everything more. i havent looked at whats out there lately but look at the canon a620 or something like that.

yea i began with a simple point and shoot and upgraded to slr's. That way you'd appreciate slr's more. not like that matters or anything. haha

[Todd Spoth]

the REAL way you appreciate the art is starting off with a fully manual film camera with a prime (most of the times 50mm) lens and then moving up from there.

start with digital without ever knowing film and youll just be another cookie cutter prosumer. those photographers whose work i really admire and are admirable have one thing in common, and that is a background in film be it 35mm, medium or large format. and im not saying that there arent any great, award-winning photographers that have never touched film, but the photographers with the stand out work have backgrounds in it.

a lot of them still use film periodically as well.

those of you that say film is a "waste of time" really dont know what youre talking about at all.

(if you dont believe me ask adrienne (johnny thunders) she went from digital p&s to dslr THEN took a fundamentals film class. i would bet that she would say she benefitted 100% from learning and really appreciating the art of analog)

[VTi EG6]

-theres a guy on the board selling a canon FILM camera.

[Todd Spoth]

-theres a guy on the board selling a canon FILM camera.

if the poster is interested i have several canon 35mm bodies for sale as well.

[Vincent]

Film would also be inconvenient and get pretty expensive. With digital, you can upload the pics instantly and find out what didn't turn out well. You can also take multiple pictures with different settings to see the effect of each. This just isn't practical with film.

[Todd Spoth]

Film would also be inconvenient and get pretty expensive. With digital, you can upload the pics instantly and find out what didn't turn out well. You can also take multiple pictures with different settings to see the effect of each. This just isn't practical with film.

youre a perfect example of who i was referring to in my other post. lol.

[Vincent]

youre a perfect example of who i was referring to in my other post. lol.

cool

[David Seale]

todd, what about in say, another decade, or heck, in 50 years, when film becomes more and more "extinct" (note the quotation marks)?

i know what youre saying and where youre coming from (i know i know, know your roots right?), but i think several years down the road, people will never get the chance to touch film (like me).... thus never "REALLY appreciating the art".... so does that mean everyone in the future will be just another "cookie cutter prosumer"?

p.s. - im not knocking film, heck, i want to learn it, develop it, yada yada... im just trying to start convo.

[Todd Spoth]

todd, what about in say, another decade, or heck, in 50 years, when film becomes more and more "extinct" (note the quotation marks)?

i know what youre saying and where youre coming from (i know i know, know your roots right?), but i think several years down the road, people will never get the chance to touch film (like me).... thus never "REALLY appreciating the art".... so does that mean everyone in the future will be just another "cookie cutter prosumer"?

p.s. - im not knocking film, heck, i want to learn it, develop it, yada yada... im just trying to start convo.

they may not be a cookie cutter, the work 90% of the time wont have the same artistic feel etc.

he said photographer, thats a key word.

if he had said "whats a good camera to take good snapshots" then my answer would have been different. thats the difference. people pick up a camera and snap a few good photos and BAM they are a "photographer" thats like saying hey i took my stiches out im a DOCTOR!! no, you just took your stiches out, thats all. maybe the original poster didnt mean he wanted to be a photographer, but im my opinion if you really want to be a true photographer and make it your art/profession/etc having the skill and knowledge of the grass roots fundamentals will help you 1000%.

its BECAUSE of the inconvience that you learn to adapt and get better, when you go out and buy a super convient digital everything auto everything you wont share the same appreciation.

like i said there are tons of amazing photographers out there that have never touched film, but theres something different when you look at someones work that has had a background in film, something that is tough to place and that you cant ever know until you do have that knowledge there. its weird just ask someone with a film background.

and it may get tougher to find, but there will be film and analog gear around for a long time.

[ofay]

especially not film since it would be a waste (imo)
LIES!!

[SloESLex]

film is the ish.

i love it.


on top of that, i've never gotten the sharpness from the 20d as much as the A1


then again i use nothing but Sigma. HEHE.