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[StratFaction]

How many DBs do you hit off the dash...and with what set up??



153 DB.

2 15" Ma Audio DXI
2500 Watt high current Ma Audio Amp
Sealed Flea Market Box.
Was in a 92' Honda Accord.


Could of hit much harder.

[akaPsyco™]

I hit 150.8

two 12 he2 punch
punch power 800a2 (old skool power)
tuned ported fiberglass enclosure
2 bulk paks of dynamat extreame
ported rear deck
port on back seat
97' civic coupe
3 lightning audio gel cel's
rockford forgate 1 farad cap
up-graded ground 0/1 awg,4 awg
4 awg power
lightning audio wires

[dak4.7]

Gee I wonder what YOUR screenname used to be :D

Never been metered, I'd say the 12 I had in my corolla was at MOST a 135, sealed on 500 watts. That's loud enough tho :)

[StratFaction]

Originally posted by dak4.7
Gee I wonder what YOUR screenname used to be :D

Never been metered, I'd say the 12 I had in my corolla was at MOST a 135, sealed on 500 watts. That's loud enough tho :)

Yea... my screen name... is very umm... I don't know.

Anyways, 135 db... hehe.. I love to knock refridgearators (sp??) over.. :)

[dak4.7]

Damn if you're gonna rag on my spl numbers at least spell the things you say right--refridgearator? :confused:
:thumb:

[StratFaction]

Originally posted by dak4.7
Damn if you're gonna rag on my spl numbers at least spell the things you say right--refridgearator? :confused:
:thumb:

Nah man, I'm not ragging on your spl numbers.... thats your thing.. You don't want a whole lot... I do .. :)

What ever floats your boat. =P

[_max_POWER]

SPL isnt EVERYTHING. SQ owns SPL. i dunno. i used to like SPL alot but someone turned me to the side of SQ. i just love hearing my music the way it was meant to be heard instead of a bunch of BOOM BOOM shit. just my opinion. even though no one asked.

[StratFaction]

Originally posted by DiRtY_DaN
SPL isnt EVERYTHING. SQ owns SPL. i dunno. i used to like SPL alot but someone turned me to the side of SQ. i just love hearing my music the way it was meant to be heard instead of a bunch of BOOM BOOM shit. just my opinion. even though no one asked.


It's all good... You like SQ... Im sure al ot of people do. I like SPL al ot of people do. Just depends on the person. :)

:thumbsup: to both of em :)

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by DiRtY_DaN
SPL isnt EVERYTHING. SQ owns SPL. i dunno. i used to like SPL alot but someone turned me to the side of SQ. i just love hearing my music the way it was meant to be heard instead of a bunch of BOOM BOOM shit. just my opinion. even though no one asked.

true...sq does own...but I am a bass addict...I mean it...I goto meetings

but to have the best of both world you would have to have two...very different cars...and that is what I am work'n towards...

dodge pick-up-single cab...4 13w7 JL audio - 4 JL 1000/1

civic..4 amps...one for each speaker..(mid-high)...epicenter and a crossover network from hell.

[_max_POWER]

Originally posted by StratFaction



It's all good... You like SQ... Im sure al ot of people do. I like SPL al ot of people do. Just depends on the person. :)

:thumbsup: to both of em :)

:thumb:

[_max_POWER]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™


true...sq does own...but I am a bass addict...I mean it...I goto meetings

but to have the best of both world you would have to have two...very different cars...and that is what I am work'n towards...

dodge pick-up-single cab...4 13w7 JL audio - 4 JL 1000/1

civic..4 amps...one for each speaker..(mid-high)...epicenter and a crossover network from hell. :krazy: thats just a bunch of wasted money. 2 of those subs and amps is MORE than enough man. are you going to use this in the same car as yer h22 turbo with gas? lol

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by DiRtY_DaN
:krazy: thats just a bunch of wasted money. 2 of those subs and amps is MORE than enough man. are you going to use this in the same car as yer h22 turbo with gas? lol


civic...h22a4 turbo w/ gas

dodge truck BOOM!!!!!


and if you can get 2 subs and 2 amps at half the retail price...why not get 4 of each?...


msrp on sub $949...$284.70
msrp on amp$999...$300.00

hell...I might get more just todo something with them in my house...

[_Zac]

Originally posted by dak4.7
Damn if you're gonna rag on my spl numbers at least spell the things you say right--refridgearator? :confused:
:thumb: :owned:

[StratFaction]

Originally posted by 01 Mineral
:owned:



:duh:

[banginaccord]

i hit a 143DB with a single Kicker L7 in a custom box, with a memphis 1000/1 pushing it.

[spikerman]

I haven't measured anything yet. Since the install isn't complete... But I like SQL better than SPL. Clean sounding is always better than just hard bass.

[akaPsyco™]

you know what would be neat...build'n a system that could do both...sq and spl...just have a switch'n system that could handle it...you would have to have everything seperate....

[dak4.7]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™
you know what would be neat...build'n a system that could do both...sq and spl...just have a switch'n system that could handle it...you would have to have everything seperate....

Not seperate, unless you're going ALL OUT on both.

Look at Rick McCallum's car, he said he's switching to ID horns now, so he's selling his rainbow ref's, but even still, his new setup will be the horns, plus 6.5" midbass (prolly the id chameleon seperates still) and 4 IDMAX v.3's in the back of the matrix, on an arc 1500 each. Granted at competition he'll only turn on the sub amps during the spl portion, but still, it's not TOTALLY seperate.

Plus I like contradticting people..

[akaPsyco™]

you need subs in the SQ sound offs...there isn't any other way to get the dynamics of sound with out them...but the trick is to have two seperate...sub set ups...have the spl subs on one switch and have the sq subs on the other....but you also have to set the car up differantly when you do spl...to move the air around the microphone is what you are try'n todo...so you set it up todo that...in SQ you want it to be ambiant(sp)...to fill the car...and not just the windshield...

[dak4.7]

The idea of bass in SQ is to have the bass sound as up front as possible, not all around you. Granted bass is 'non-directional' blah blah blah, but if you tone the bass down a bit, it begins to give an up front feeling, where the rest of the music should be coming from.

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by dak4.7
The idea of bass in SQ is to have the bass sound as up front as possible, not all around you. Granted bass is 'non-directional' blah blah blah, but if you tone the bass down a bit, it begins to give an up front feeling, where the rest of the music should be coming from.


the "only" way to get the bass sound up front is to put the subs up front...they do that...if you have them in the back the best thing you could hope for is ambiant bass and up your mid-bass up front ...gives you that up front feel...but its still ambiant.

[Chris]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™



the "only" way to get the bass sound up front is to put the subs up front...they do that...if you have them in the back the best thing you could hope for is ambiant bass and up your mid-bass up front ...gives you that up front feel...but its still ambiant.

wrong.. think about mids... they are made to create a low amount of bass in certain frequencys to make the bas sound more all around besides just hitting you in the back...

[Chris]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™
you need subs in the SQ sound offs...there isn't any other way to get the dynamics of sound with out them...but the trick is to have two seperate...sub set ups...have the spl subs on one switch and have the sq subs on the other....but you also have to set the car up differantly when you do spl...to move the air around the microphone is what you are try'n todo...so you set it up todo that...in SQ you want it to be ambiant(sp)...to fill the car...and not just the windshield...


the guy that was always at the competitions with me who always did sq always bragged about how hard is sq subs hit.. he had 3 memphis subs and hed pull steady 147's on sq tuning... not bad i would say

[dak4.7]

Originally posted by Chris



the guy that was always at the competitions with me who always did sq always bragged about how hard is sq subs hit.. he had 3 memphis subs and hed pull steady 147's on sq tuning... not bad i would say

:wrd:

A lot of guys have a third mono EQ wired up just to the sub amps, with a turnon switch inline, so that when the brief SPL portion comes around, they flip the switch and are immediately thrown into spl mode, but hitting 147 in full SQ tuning with three subs is nice :)

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by Chris


wrong.. think about mids... they are made to create a low amount of bass in certain frequencys to make the bas sound more all around besides just hitting you in the back...

oh really?...LOL...you are a funny one...tell me...have you actually put in a set of good mids?....like oh lets say a 8 " mid-woofer in a kick or a door?...or better yet...3 sets of componants in the front door of an excursion?...oh you haven't...well..thanks for play'n...


when you goto the movie house...where is the bass come'n from?...don't anwser me right now...goto a movie...some good action...should be some bad ass ones come'n out this summer...and you will see what i was talk'n about...


mid's and hi's up front...(unless you do a sub or two up front)
and bass all around.

[akaPsyco™]

now...as for my car...it was a SPL monster...that is all it was for...I set it up to bang as hard as it could on the dash...and from the arodynamics of my car I was able to tune it so it would hit the hardest up there...some ppl hated be'n in my car when I had the subs go....but lucky them I had the subs on a switch...I had a combination of two componants up front...boston pro 6.5 and diamond audio s600s's no back speakers...and it was loud and the mids up front created alot of mid-bass...not an SQ car at all...

[Chris]

im not dis agreeing with you that putting subs up front would be the best option but its not logical... i was suggesting the best way to recreate the sound of havng subs up front .. and do you have a better idea?? btw yes i have installed some kick panels... gg thx for playing buddy

[akaPsyco™]

you have built one kick pannel?....just one...and you got it right the first time...wow...I bet every installer must be knock'n at your door to ask you what your secret is...my first kick sounded alright..but it didn't image...and it could have sounded a whole lot better...now I build kicks on a computer program...image right and sound bad ass.

oh...and when you put this coax speaker in your kick pannel...did it sound good?...or was it just loud....and when did that speaker blow?

give me a month and I will put anything YOU have to shame...and I will do it with Punch equipment...not even the best. so as not to hurt your heart as much.


look up this guy named TKR-Fred...he has a JL system subs and amps...just had it up in...here are some pick...

http://www.trapspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1614

ask him if you can listen to it...

[tkr_prelude]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™

give me a month and I will put anything YOU have to shame...and I will do it with Punch equipment...not even the best. so as not to hurt your heart as much.


look up this guy named TKR-Fred...he has a JL system subs and amps...just had it up in...here are some pick...

http://www.trapspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1614

ask him if you can listen to it...

Fred's shit is tight...LEE did a bad ass job...:D
its loud i do believe when its finally tuned, it will hit some high numbers.....

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by tkr_prelude


Fred's shit is tight...LEE did a bad ass job...:D
its loud i do believe when its finally tuned, it will hit some high numbers.....

yes he did...I was there when he was work'n on it...

I'm hope'n it will hit high 160's...did you see Chester pitts truck before it left the bay?...now that truck hit so hard lee had to get out of it once...LOL...it rippled the roof ...LOL

[tkr_prelude]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™


yes he did...I was there when he was work'n on it...

I'm hope'n it will hit high 160's...did you see Chester pitts truck before it left the bay?...now that truck hit so hard lee had to get out of it once...LOL...it rippled the roof ...LOL

Yea i know you were there i was trying to promote his name...; )

I didnt get a chance to hear that truck..

[mofoD]

Originally posted by tkr_prelude




I didnt get a chance to hear that truck..

RIP chester pitts excursion.

[Chris]

high 160's dont make me laugh!!! that might pull 155 AT MOST.. unless there is something missing in those pics.. nice set up tho looks clean... who did the install.. Let me listen.. ima human db meter lol...

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by Chris
high 160's dont make me laugh!!! that might pull 155 AT MOST.. unless there is something missing in those pics.. nice set up tho looks clean... who did the install.. Let me listen.. ima human db meter lol...


Lee teeples...he works at Tweeter on westhiemer @voss...if you really wanna hear a tight sq syetem....listen to his...he has a single 10w7 that hit almost as hard as my two 12's...


how hard does a car system have to hit...too make the installer cringe and have to get out the trunk because he couldn't stand it anymore?....high 160's?....I think so...that is how Chesters truck hit...4 15" titanium Eclipse's "ported"

[mofoD]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™



that is how Chesters truck hit...4 15" titanium Eclipse's "ported"

i heard how bad ass his shit was.

its a shame some fuckers had to jack it.

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by Jigga_Accord


i heard how bad ass his shit was.

its a shame some fuckers had to jack it.


no what is sad is that he only had it for like 3 hours.

[mikesrex]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™



civic...h22a4 turbo w/ gas

dodge truck BOOM!!!!!


and if you can get 2 subs and 2 amps at half the retail price...why not get 4 of each?...


msrp on sub $949...$284.70
msrp on amp$999...$300.00

hell...I might get more just todo something with them in my house...

even at those prices, equipment exists that will compete head to head with the JL gear......and win. JL makes awesome equipment, but it's priced too high IMO, even if you get a discount on it.

keep in mind people, that it's all in the install. Someone has hit 170+ legal SPL with a single 10 inch woofer, in the DB Drag sanctioning organization, in the extreme 1-2 class.

and BTW, the most I've ever hit on the dash was 153.0 on a linear X meter, with my two Shocker 15's and 2 Punch BD1000's, from the trunk of my civic.

I've broke 150 legal SPL with a single 15 or a pair of 12's many times in my civic.

I don't put subs in my ride anymore, unless I have some sort of special occasion, like if i have time to go to a local sound-off to have fun competing. I do have decent SQ though.

[akaPsyco™]

Originally posted by mikesrex


even at those prices, equipment exists that will compete head to head with the JL gear......and win.



how do you fig?...just wonder'n what you mean?...I said I can get a $1000 woofer for $289 a 13w7 for $289...name something that wound even come close to a 13w7 for around $300.

[mikesrex]

Originally posted by akaPsyco™




how do you fig?...just wonder'n what you mean?...I said I can get a $1000 woofer for $289 a 13w7 for $289...name something that wound even come close to a 13w7 for around $300.

Digital Designs, Shocker Audio, and many others.

And just because you can get good deals on JL, that doesn't mean you may not be able to get good deals on other good gear.

I'm not knocking JL, but IMO I'd have a few choices I would take over a W7.

[GSteg]

akapsycho is right. the best way to bring bass upfront is to put the sub upfront. the next best thing to do is get rid of rear speakers and have stronger midbass upfront. midbass will help (a lot BTW) bring the bass upfront. many people think a complete system is just mids, subs, amps, headunit,etc, but what they're forgetting is something to cover the 70hz-250hz range. if you dont' have midbass, don't go to comps and expect to win..


going back on topic...

i hitted 148.6db off a Termpro mic running a DEI 1100D amp and (1) 15" Elemental Design K-series tuned for SQ.

also 149db off a linearX mic running a single 15" RE SE sub with 4 DEI 1100D amps (2 strapped to each coil). (not finished with the setup yet)

[akaPsyco™]

I LOVE those DEI 1100D amps...:D what is the bigger one that you can strap?

[GSteg]

Originally posted by akaPsyco?
I LOVE those DEI 1100D amps...:D what is the bigger one that you can strap?

the only DEI's amps that i know of (same series as the 1100D) is the 600d. the 2400D amp is the biggest one they have, but its not strappable. 2400x1@2ohm. something tells me they putted 2 1100D circuit board and strapped them then putted it in a bigger case.

[lyttleviet]

what do you think I would hit with 2 12" L7's in a sealed box with an MTX 81000D amp with cap and gel cell battery.. pretty constant power... Im trying to get a custom box later on..

[bluecivicw7]

wow this very old :eek3: