ROEL FROM SUPER STREETS RESPONSES THIS SHOULD BE STICKIED IN EVERY FORUM

[I HATE JDM]

OK so heres what he had to say when i showed him the "dear super street" letter.


"Sweet! I still say fuck the Alamo!



BTW, if you know this guy, send him my reply or tell him to go to my Myspace homepage:

First, my reply to the jackass who wrote the following letter, who probably based his opinion from racist history books and mediocre movies. I say fuck you to the Alamo because the people who defended that stupid site (I'm talking about Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie, etc.) stood for slavery. They strongly fought the Mexicans because the Mexican gov't at the time became abolitionists, or anti-slavery. The Mexican gov't was in the process of enforcing this belief to the Texans, who made their living by agriculture and therefore needed slaves. Of course, the Texans wouldn't possibly allow their income to be taken so they fought back. This is one of the reasons why the battle came about, and why I wrote that piece in Super Street.

Note: Whatever you read in your history books are wrong. And don't ever believe what you see in the movies. So please do your homework before you say something really stupid: "

[SecretAgent]

nevermind that farming was never very prosperous in Texas during that time period, especially in the desert areas of San Antonio. they made their livings raising livestock. also Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie both never owned slaves.

but anyways, when did super street become a voice for denouncing actions that were made over 150 years ago. i thought it was a car magazine, not a political science magazine!

[I HATE JDM]

nevermind that farming was never very prosperous in Texas during that time period, especially in the desert areas of San Antonio. they made their livings raising livestock. also Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie both never owned slaves.

but anyways, when did super street become a voice for denouncing actions that were made over 150 years ago. i thought it was a car magazine, not a political science magazine!
they should change their name to spin street

[SecretAgent]

nah, "i talk out of my ass street," then it'll be more accurate.

[I HATE JDM]

everyone write you officials!

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

[Dorian]

:-/

Even worse of a response.

I refuse to go to any myspace account to respond.

[I HATE JDM]

:-/

Even worse of a response.

I refuse to go to any myspace account to respond.


How about this, lets all unite and boycott them at their super street tour in ft worth Tx!

[SecretAgent]

sounds good to me!

[Dorian]

Well the thing that I think is even more unprofessional is that I took the time to write out a nice article not once referring to him in a deragatory way. In the very first sentence he is calling me a jackass. Then he dodged the rest of the article not answering to anything other then "slavery is the reason why I wrote that article note."

:wompwomp:

[I HATE JDM]

Well the thing that I think is even more unprofessional is that I took the time to write out a nice article not once referring to him in a deragatory way. In the very first sentence he is calling me a jackass. Then he dodged the rest of the article not answering to anything other then "slavery is the reason why I wrote that article note."

:wompwomp:


its bc of his lack of knowledge. Little does he know that Tx had on average 1 in 4 households who owned slaves WHILE mexico had greater numbers and also enslaved indians. Besides thats not what sparked the revolution. He just would love to think he knows more then the entire state of Tx. I find it amusing how persons Not born on U.s. soil tend to think they know more about our history then those of us who's familys started here as a result of the revolution or whose familys have been here since they migrated from the land bridge in the ice ages. Im not saying anything bad about imigrants, just that history is usually best told or recorded where it happened.

[mk3ofdoom]

boycott the tour in ft worth. sounds like a plan to me :thumb:

"you say fuck texas, we say :madfuck:"

[civperc]

what a tard! I stopped reading that mag a few years ago because of the rampant idiocy in their "content".

[azinwood]

dorian, give me your official response and we'll put it up on our frontpage! hollar.

[alf]

dorian, give me your official response and we'll put it up on our frontpage! hollar.
awesome! :thumb:

does this fellow roel believe he is almighty? that he can just talk shit about a city that he doesnt like and have peasants follow?

H-I sure as hell doesnt, and thats why this is going on the frontpage :D

alf

[Dorian]

dorian, give me your official response and we'll put it up on our frontpage! hollar.
Ok. Let me get something together.

[blackrsx]

we are going national ngrs :thumb:

[SpEeDxXxRaCeR]

How about this, lets all unite and boycott them at their super street tour in ft worth Tx!

jeese, i'm down, road trip?!?

[al]

WOW! Tour boycott!

[I HATE JDM]

jeese, i'm down, road trip?!?gonna see if i can get off work and plaster the car with "dear super street, FUCK YOU WERE FROM TX" =)

[I HATE JDM]

hmm....they even have a forum http://forums.superstreetonline.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

[mikesrex]

wow, is this response for real?

[azinwood]

you put it best mike,

mike: so basically he is stupid enough to either believe what he wrote
mike: or stupid enough to believe that we will

[I HATE JDM]

wow, is this response for real?
yes that is verbatum. what he sent me. it can also be found on his myspace page. hes dumb enough to post it on his own page and im sure when he wakes up and sees my response i wrote him, he will show more stupidity

[mikesrex]

link to myspace page?

[I HATE JDM]

ok i will...first heres a link to what i posted on honda-tech

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1334173

*FIXED*

[dinh]

we are going national ngrs :thumb:

:shocklook

[I HATE JDM]

myspace link to Roel http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=705583&Mytoken=20050809082645

[Los]

Wow, this is interesting...

When is their show ?

[I HATE JDM]

Wow, this is interesting...

When is their show ?
sept 14th i believe

[mikesrex]

btw, this is basically evidence to support my theory that magazines such as SS are out of touch with reality, and that sites like Houston-Imports are the place to be.

[phast]

hmm....they even have a forum http://forums.superstreetonline.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
:./ Their forum blows.

[phast]

btw, this is basically evidence to support my theory that magazines such as SS are out of touch with reality, and that sites like Houston-Imports are the place to be.
AMEN TO THAT

[I HATE JDM]

btw, this is basically evidence to support my theory that magazines such as SS are out of touch with reality, and that sites like Houston-Imports are the place to be.
I will agree and that is why I tried hard when I would write for magazines to show the true sides of things. I think its very sad that a car mag, tries to throw out false information on History.

[appleburger]

its pretty obvious he's just mad that his motherland mexico didn't end up with texas and we did. RIP santa anna.

[I HATE JDM]

Mr. donnels post was better...heres his thread http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1334097 sorry i didnt know it was posted already!

[Los]

sept 14th i believe
What can we do to make it the worst event in their schedule ?

Maybe organize a free show and shine and sell water and BBQ for 50% less then the venue ???

[I HATE JDM]

its pretty obvious he's just mad that his motherland mexico didn't end up with texas and we did. RIP santa anna.
he was not born on u.s soil. hes from manilla or some stuff

[I HATE JDM]

What can we do to make it the worst event in their schedule ?

Maybe organize a free show and shine and sell water and BBQ for 50% less then the venue ???
well 1) maybe contact enkei. they are hosting it. express our extreme disgust and ask them to erconsider hosting bc we do not wish to cause them grief. But tell them we are,boycotting or rallying to show our support of our heritage and thier lackof respect???????

[CBridah]

FUK SS

[Dorian]

What can we do to make it the worst event in their schedule ?

Maybe organize a free show and shine and sell water and BBQ for 50% less then the venue ???
:eek3dance


On a side note I wonder if the people who flew him out here (Continental Tires and General Tires) know how he feels about this state. I mean they have their testing facilities in Uvalde and all.

[I HATE JDM]

:eek3dance


On a side note I wonder if the people who flew him out here (Continental Tires and General Tires) know how he feels about this state. I mean they have their testing facilities in Uvalde and all.
lets write them too.!!!!!!!!!!

[phast]

What can we do to make it the worst event in their schedule ?

Maybe organize a free show and shine and sell water and BBQ for 50% less then the venue ???
Hell, why not get a show going on the same date at the SA 1/4 mile track? I know the track isn't great or anything but it's for a good cause.

[OneArmedScissor]

screw SS. that magazine sucks anyway.

OMG I HAVE NEON LIGHTS ON MY CAR AND I READ STUPID STREET!

[-=E36=-]

Man, that guy is a fucking retard.

[I HATE JDM]

Hell, why not get a show going on the same date at the SA 1/4 mile track? I know the track isn't great or anything but it's for a good cause.
its better to hold it next door to their show in ft worth!

[nuWest]

How about this, lets all unite and boycott them at their super street tour in ft worth Tx!
i wouldnt have been no matter what, LOL.

[turboteg]

its bc of his lack of knowledge. Little does he know that Tx had on average 1 in 4 households who owned slaves WHILE mexico had greater numbers and also enslaved indians. Besides thats not what sparked the revolution. He just would love to think he knows more then the entire state of Tx. I find it amusing how persons Not born on U.s. soil tend to think they know more about our history then those of us who's familys started here as a result of the revolution or whose familys have been here since they migrated from the land bridge in the ice ages. Im not saying anything bad about imigrants, just that history is usually best told or recorded where it happened.

no kidding. GG

[Mobil1]

I will never pick that rag up again.

Ever.

[mikesrex]

I added him as a friend on myspace. I hope he likes my latest bulletin:kekegay:

[Mobil1]

Link to your myspace?

[mikesrex]

Link to your myspace?
http://www.myspace.com/mikesrex

[azinwood]

linked to these threads from the front page.

[mikesrex]

linked to these threads from the front page.
and my myspace LOL

[tit$]

maybe you should send someone at corporate a link to this..

[I HATE JDM]

I think the tire companys need to be told to!

[Mobil1]

well 1) maybe contact enkei. they are hosting it. express our extreme disgust and ask them to erconsider hosting bc we do not wish to cause them grief. But tell them we are,boycotting or rallying to show our support of our heritage and thier lackof respect???????
Ask Enkei to drop their sponsorship of the Super Street show and sponsor our show as a show of support for Texas heritage.

If youre going to do something, do it big.

[Mobil1]

I say we make a list of corporate emails for every Super Street affiliate and sponsor and bombard them with email expressing our disgust for such unfounded and unwarranted slander by Super Street magazine.

Inform them that any company that supports those who harbor such negative feelings about our state and prints them in national magazines will simply be boycotted.

[phast]

I say we make a list of corporate emails for every Super Street affiliate and sponsor and bombard them with email expressing our disgust for such unfounded and unwarranted slander by Super Street magazine.

Inform them that any company that supports those who harbor such negative feelings about our state and prints them in national magazines will simply be boycotted.
:rock:

[NoNOSgsr]

hahahaha what stupid filipino! he needs to get wack in the head. things people do to get some publicity. sad aint it. !~

[I HATE JDM]

hahahaha what stupid filipino! he needs to get wack in the head. things people do to get some publicity. sad aint it. !~

I <3 this Filipino!

[sci motorsports]

I <3 this Filipino!



hee hee looks like californian fagass butt pirate fucked with the wrong state

i'm linking this to every news paper in the state

[Mobil1]

hee hee looks like californian fagass butt pirate fucked with the wrong state

i'm linking this to every news paper in the state
He just landed himself in the middle of a shit storm.

Good call on the news papers.

[nuWest]

He just landed himself in the middle of a shit storm.

Good call on the news papers.
:D

[Mobil1]

So how about we contact Barnes&Noble and all the other major book retailers and inform them of this incident?

Along with the fact that we will be boycotting the rag.

[Mobil1]

I'm about to email this to Bill O'Reilly.

Why? Because it cant hurt to try.

[I HATE JDM]

i love you people!!!!!!!! KISSES FOR EVERYONE!

[mikesrex]

I'm about to email this to Bill O'Reilly.

Why? Because it cant hurt to try.
:rock:

[I HATE JDM]

hee hee looks like californian fagass butt pirate fucked with the wrong state

i'm linking this to every news paper in the state
chad, I meant i <3 Mark from jspek,nonosgsr,hes flip too!.....I DO NOT <3 NOT ROEL!!

[Hotrodguru]

Well the only real way to voice your opinion with a magazine is by hitting them where it hurts. This was brought up regarding Super Street and companies who advertise in it.

Well luckily I still had a business card handy for Conti/General Tires Director of Marketing. Just gave her a call and spoke to her secretary. Just happens to be that 2 senior marketing folks from Germany are currently attending meetings in Uvalde and are out to lunch. I'll update you guys when I hear something. I know the secretary was pretty upset about the situation and I'm sure Conti/General wouldn't want to be associated with a publication with such biased views.

Guru

[Dorian]

My official response:

http://www.sanantonioimports.com/forum/uploads/post-35-1123610441.jpg

I guess Roel speaks for his whole organization when he says, "Fuck the Alamo!"

So now I say: Fuck Super Street.

I’m not going to get into a history war. You believe your propaganda and I’ll believe mine. However, Texans are proud of this state and those who aren't afraid to show it are speaking out why it is wrong for a national selling magazine to print something so offensive. I believe that Mr. Concepcion has woken up a sleeping giant. I wonder if he even realizes how many die hard Super Street fans he has just lost because of his beliefs he is trying to put onto people. People that don't even live in Texas have commented on how it is inappropriate for anyone, whose whole justification to disrespect an entire city and a national landmark because it they think it's boring, is just plain unacceptable. Hell if we had to, we could be our own country.

San Antonio has a number of shops that have called me personally and told me that if any of them would have known someone from Super Street was even in the area that they would have taken them out.

I would have rather not received a response from him than to get the bullshit beat around the bush response that he gave. Please Super Street, do Texas a favor and don't send Mr. Concepcion back here. As many enemies as he has just made he just might not be able to make it back out because when you say, “Fuck the Alamo” you might as well say “Fuck Texas.”

Dorian Perez

[golfcartracerx]

http://www.primedia.com/pr/press/superstreetredesign8904/

[I HATE JDM]

http://www.primedia.com/pr/press/superstreetredesign8904/
that just proves they are Idiots and irresponsible journalists

[I HATE JDM]

My official response:

http://www.sanantonioimports.com/forum/uploads/post-35-1123610441.jpg

I guess Roel speaks for his whole organization when he says, "Fuck the Alamo!"

So now I say: Fuck Super Street.

I’m not going to get into a history war. You believe your propaganda and I’ll believe mine. However, Texans are proud of this state and those who aren't afraid to show it are speaking out why it is wrong for a national selling magazine to print something so offensive. I believe that Mr. Concepcion has woken up a sleeping giant. I wonder if he even realizes how many die hard Super Street fans he has just lost because of his beliefs he is trying to put onto people. People that don't even live in Texas have commented on how it is in appropriate for anyone, whose whole justification to disrespect an entire city and a national landmark because it they think it's boring, is just plain unacceptable. Hell if we had to, we could be our own country.

San Antonio has a number of shops that have called me personally and told me that if any of them would have known someone from Super Street was even in the area that they would have taken them out.

I would have rather not received a response from him than to get the bullshit beat around the bush response that he gave. Please Super Street, do Texas a favor and don't send Mr. Concepcion back here. As many enemies as he has just made he just might not be able to make it back out because when you say, “Fuck the Alamo” you might as well say “Fuck Texas.”

Dorian Perez

[SpEeDxXxRaCeR]

You got PM jesse!

[-=E36=-]

nice dorian!

[phast]

http://forums.superstreetonline.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1875&an=0&page=0#1875

According to their "forum" he is the sole rep for the South leg of their tour. Doesn't that start in Texas?

[golfcartracerx]

Your posts,Dorian, should be sent to HR at Primedia:)

http://www.primedia.com/overview/management/

[I HATE JDM]

http://forums.superstreetonline.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1875&an=0&page=0#1875

According to their "forum" he is the sole rep for the South leg of their tour. Doesn't that start in Texas?
welcome 2 Tejas!

[Lead_headz]

I can't believe what that fuckin idiot said "HE REALLY MESSED WITH TEXAS" now I can't wait to see his next move hope I'm there to give him an "OLD FASHION BEATING UP ONE WHERE HE GET PUNCHED ALOT MORE TIMES THEN HE PUNCHES ME. :eek3dance

Schnoogins :rock:

SA HERE

[nuWest]

http://forums.superstreetonline.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1875&an=0&page=0#1875

According to their "forum" he is the sole rep for the South leg of their tour. Doesn't that start in Texas?
i say we pay him a visit :o

[I HATE JDM]

i say we pay him a visit :o
x2

[nuWest]

anyone here on honda tech wanna change their avatar?

http://www.honda-tech.com/zeroavatar/110227

[phast]

Just found out Texas is part of the West leg. :-/

[nuWest]

TO THE WEST LEG!

[I HATE JDM]

Just found out Texas is part of the West leg. :-/

thats ok...Super Street is to blame more then him. they allowed it to print.

[NoNOSgsr]

I <3 this Filipino!

:)


as for roel and stupid street. they are gonna get whats coming to them. !
team texas dont play.

[NoNOSgsr]

TO THE WEST LEG!

LETS GO!

[upncomin]

damn if this was only happening in January, ya'll better post pics, so i can look at there expressions on their faces. I guess no more super street reading for me, i can't believe they're hating on texas like that.

[I HATE JDM]

Like I said before, Right or wrong/ true or false, believe what you want about the alamo and the revolution. What you can NOT deny is that lives were lost. People fought risking life and liberty in what they believed in. Both partys gave it all they could and to say that ANY of them died in vain or for no purpose is just plain wrong. You can read whatever book you want. they all say this "lives were lost" and we all know that courage like that hardly exists anymore. very few of us would risk life n limb to take a stand. those men on both sides fought so we could be here. If there would have been no revolution, there'd be no Texas.
Ill fight along side ANY Texan here willing to give all they have to see the responsible parties held at bay. We should boycott, call advertisers,call sponsors of the tour, ask persons in Tx not to join the tour, call the tire companys(more then one of us call), hell i even wrote a letter to a tx congressman asking he ban them from their tour through Tx since they obviously dont give a damn about it LET THEM GO AROUND IT. call the troopers and inform them of how much these people hate Tx. Im sure theyd love to follow the tour and see how many citations they can hand out.hell ill plaster my car with political sayings against S.S. and try to take a day off and drive to my home town of DFW to protest. call the newspapers,call the news stations, call your state reps, CALL THE TX militia. Im sure the rep of Tx would love to hear of this.Im sure even Mr. Bush would be a little upset. ID suggest getting it out to as many as you can and let them be the example of what happens when you mess with Tx. we should no longer stand and be passive when people spread lies. Instead STAND AND BE COUNTED!

[I HATE JDM]

edit *and NON Texan too, ill fight along side of* but TEXAS is in the heart thats why i said "Ill fight along side ANY Texan here willing to give all they have to see the responsible parties held at bay."

[nuWest]

http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/T_SHIRT_DESIGNS/images/texas3.jpg

[appleburger]

i'm all for it. someone should write up a pre-though out statement to send for the lazy. i'll write my own stuff, but i think many more people would participate if all they had to do was copy and paste. its sad you have to hold hands like that, but i think you'd get more support.

[mikesrex]

our boy Roel took down his comments on his myspace page. Did anyone get a screenshot?

[I HATE JDM]

our boy Roel took down his comments on his myspace page. Did anyone get a screenshot?
for what? he sent it to me in my email =)

[mikesrex]

for what? he sent it to me in my email =)
LOL better than a screenshot

[I HATE JDM]

LOL better than a screenshotI have corresponded to him through email and neither of us got irrate. my beef is mainly with Super street publishing that. although since i am Texan, anything someone says about our state negatively does upset me.


for other persons reading...We want to handle this the right way. we dont want violence. If you see Mr. concepcion out and about please leave him be. shout names,hold signs, but please be civil. we need to show the media what power we can have without getting unruly. we dont want to be known as a mob. If we want our voice heard, we must do it the right way

for the record, i wish no one harm.He can think what he wants, im just upset bc he disrespects the lives lost for what they thought just cause. and to super street for printing something so ill tasted.

[HangNail]

ok i will...first heres a link to what i posted on honda-tech

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1334173

*FIXED*
wow. lots of assholes on ht ...

[phast]

for other persons reading...We want to handle this the right way. we dont want violence. If you see Mr. concepcion out and about please leave him be. shout names,hold signs, but please be civil. we need to show the media what power we can have without getting unruly. we dont want to be known as a mob. If we want our voice heard, we must do it the right way

for the record, i wish no one harm.He can think what he wants, im just upset bc he disrespects the lives lost for what they thought just cause. and to super street for printing something so ill tasted.
wrd. Violence is not needed in this situation. Texas may be the land of the death penalty but we can verbally beat someone down too.

[Dorian]

LOL better than a screenshot
lol... :)

He even took down "my letter of the month...." from me. Go figure. Good thing we have it posted here.

I also don't want violence. Just a boycott.

[mikesrex]

aww dang he removed me as one of his myspace friends. That SO hurt my feelings...

[HangNail]

http://www.primedia.com/pr/press/superstreetredesign8904/
wow i was really disappointed to read that. ive been a reader of several primedia mags for a long time now. i just dont know about them any more ...

[I HATE JDM]

matt from san antonio had this to say about super street just minutes ago!

NOT WORK SAFE I THINK

***WARNING: NWS PIC***
http://www.sanantonioimports.com/forum/uploads/post-7-1123620454.jpg

(I removed the IMG tags as directed - mikesrex)

[I HATE JDM]

Since you read this, why take down people from your firends list, or take down content you posted? You regret it now? Are you scared you will get in trouble? Scared of what people will say on your page? Why hide, you did the deed now pay the fee. Be a man, if your as strong to your conviction as Texas is to hers, speak up on here.

[sci motorsports]

awesome

[I HATE JDM]

mikesrex, thanks! I should have read the rules lol. im a lil upset today as we all are!

[phast]

nice.

[appleburger]

*grabs popcorn and a comfy blanket*

[alf]

texas is pretty big. alot of people hate him now.

alf

[HangNail]

ill buy an issue if he posts

[Anti Muscle]

nice.

[mikesrex]

IBsomeonemakesanAE

[Dorian]

ill buy an issue if he posts
:kekegay:

[Dorian]

IBsomeonemakesanAE
Nah. This is pretty serious. I would hope not.

[HangNail]

IBsomeonemakesanAE
im serious.

i just got paid. ill throw away a five dollar bill

[stealthassassin]

How about this, lets all unite and boycott them at their super street tour in ft worth Tx!
hahahaha i was thinking the same thing good thinking I HATE J...D...M...WTF :stare: you hate JDM O HELLL NAAW :ninja: well I LUV JDM and so with that said lets boycott YOU for not liking JDM!!!! :kekegay: J/K man but yea good thinking man lets go kick super streets ass!!!!! :rock:

[stealthassassin]

matt from san antonio had this to say about super street just minutes ago!

NOT WORK SAFE I THINK

***WARNING: NWS PIC***
http://www.sanantonioimports.com/forum/uploads/post-7-1123620454.jpg

(I removed the IMG tags as directed - mikesrex)


:roflmao: :roflmao: :thumb:

[HangNail]

i-45 to dallas is a fun drive with a group of car guys

[stealthassassin]

i-45 to dallas is a fun drive with a group of car guys
HELL YEA IT IS....O Yea and the gurlz to :thumb:

[alf]

ill go. :)

[nuWest]

ill go. :)
ill go if you stop posting 293840293842389 threads in car pics :p

[I HATE JDM]

hahahaha i was thinking the same thing good thinking I HATE J...D...M...WTF :stare: you hate JDM O HELLL NAAW :ninja: well I LUV JDM and so with that said lets boycott YOU for not liking JDM!!!! :kekegay: J/K man but yea good thinking man lets go kick super streets ass!!!!! :rock:
i hate jdm in truth means i love jdm

[Anti Muscle]

ill go. :)
me too :thumb:

[mikesrex]

Nah. This is pretty serious. I would hope not.

i think Roel has dug himself into too deep of a hole to be able to come on here and reply.

If he truly believes what he has said, though, perhaps he should come clarify his statements and try to convince us he is right.

[RealLive]

he's too scared...he should avoid texas altogether now ;)

[arkive43]

i think Roel has dug himself into too deep of a hole to be able to come on here and reply.

If he truly believes what he has said, though, perhaps he should come clarify his statements and try to convince us he is right.

either that or just swallow his pride and apoligize.

[I HATE JDM]

i think Roel has dug himself into too deep of a hole to be able to come on here and reply.

If he truly believes what he has said, though, perhaps he should come clarify his statements and try to convince us he is right.
exactly...like I said, Ill respect a man who takes a stand.
Ill respect a man who stands by his convictions

I will NOT respect anyman who runs into a crowd, throws a bomb and runs for cover. He pulled the trigger, since he is such a passionate Texas hater, speak up. dont be scared bc we talk back, or will knock down your propaganda with the truth. Even if he appologizes it still would not stop some people from taking this as far as they can. Maybe it was just a bad joke that he thought was funny. somethings need discipline and this is one of those things. And example needs to be made. IF YOU DONT LIKE TEXAS, STAY THE FCK OUT. Texas needs NO ONE. like it or leave. I find it cowardly to take down what one says though, after they say it.

[h0tshizzle]

Texas mothafucka thats where I stay

[-=E36=-]

*grabs popcorn and a comfy blanket*


share?

[Mobil1]

What a pansy ass.

He can talk shit but once someone confronts him about it he turns and runs like a little bitch.

Never saw that coming! :roflmao:

Maybe there will be a retraction or an apology in next months issue. Even if there is, I wont see it because Im never picking up that magazine again.

[jesse walker]

Apparently I pissed off an entire state, one of the biggest states at that--Texas. Because I wrote in the September issue of Super Street that the Alamo sucked, and now all the Texans have their panties all ruffled up.

As a writer, I enjoy this kind of passion from readers because, for one, I know they're reading my shit. But I couldn't have possibly fathomed that a mere 31 words (to be exact) can incite so much anger.

I do respect the passion these people have for their state. Like them, I'd die for my city (Long Beach) but I wouldn't get all gooey and pissy about what someone wrote about it, especially when it's a small automotive magazine with 250,000 readers a month. For one, I'm not that insecure if they someone said Long Beach sucks. It's really not that big of a deal. But I guess there's nothing better to do in Texas than defend a small missionary in the middle of Boring-Town, USA. But I am passionate about civil rights and history, and the way these guys are going about defending the Alamo is ridiculous (I'll clarify in the next few paragraphs).

First, there are actually far worse things I've written about in Super Street, but none to the magnitude of creating such a fuss in forums, MySpace, and e-mails. I said the Alamo sucked because it was boring, underwhelming, and, well, it's just an ugly building. So that's why I wrote the small sidebar in the article. It was what it was: I mean, the Alamo isn't something I'd visit and drool over. So don't expound on it like I killed your moms and great great grandfathers--that's just plain ignorant.

So let's clear the history first. The Alamo has two sides to it: the frontiersmen who defended it and the Mexican gov't who policed it. One of the reasons why the Alamo occurred was because the frontiersmen in and around Texas were agriculturists who needed slaves to keep up their land, while the Mexican gov't were abolitionists who wanted slavery to stop. In fact, Mexico was anti-slavery way before America was. When the two sides collided about this idea of slavery, the Alamo happened.

I side with Mexico for obvious reasons. But the media this century as well as Hollywood glorified the scene as if it was a group of Mongrels (Mexico) trying to take land from Texans. If you don't know this, then don't talk to me. This is history and it's laid out as a fact. Whatever your elementary school teachers taught you was wrong. I mean, the history books only allocate a couple of pages to slavery and the plight of other minorities like the Chinese and Filipinos.

So that's why I say the Alamo sucked because it was a bunch of Texans fighting to keep slavery intact. I wouldn't be proud of that, but I also won't hate people for being proud of it, and go on forums talking smack (seriously, there are far better things to do). And for shits and giggles, I also said San Antonio sucked in the sidebar because frankly that's my opinion.

So if you want to boycott the Tour, write to your congressmen, or e-mail Bill O'Reilly, please do so. Because I respect protests like that...I'm always down for a protest.

Just don't hate because our opinions differ and what we learned in school was different.

But please know that I couldn't care less about what happens because I don't give a damn about anything, including forums and hate mail. I get that shit every day. I'm just glad that my words are read in Super Street and that it causes such a stir (writers love that shit, believe me).

So don't expect an apology for what I wrote. Take it for what it is (a joke) and move on. Don't threaten to kill me and kick my ass next time I'm in Texas--that's beyond ignorance. Say your shit on the forums and move on.

The following is a somewhat intelligent debate from another MySpace-er and catalyst to all the "I hate Roel" forums:


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Ken Myoshi Still owes aLL STaR Jesse $1,000
Date: Aug 9, 2005 10:45 AM

well, I can see where you would be a strong advocate of freedom of speech, or rather in this case expression. I will say it made me mad what you had wrote and what you did.

heres why it made me mad. The people of history you despise also had many contributions to history outside of the Alamo. Right or wrong, many persons lives were lost during the revolution. Those men on both sides fought for what they truly believed in and were willing to risk life and liberty for it. Very few of us living in America have that courage anymore. I find it disrespectful to both sides of the revolution when you say things like you said. sometimes our thoughts need be contained. We dont have to agree on anything to be honest. My point in informing you was that, sometimes its better for you to harbour your hate/disgust rather then have a entire state not like you. right now there are boycotts being planned,and rallys against the ss tour. Sure to you it may not matter and i too believe in some free speech but I dont think the magazine should have printed that. it was very dis-tatseful. but then again, just like you stated your opinion, I have stated mine. just dont be suprised at the responses as they will be a plenty.

My Reply:

Let me point out a couple of things in your response:

"Those men on both sides fought for what they truly believed in and were willing to risk life and liberty for it. "

As a historian, you should know that the battle was fought for the wrong reasons. America at the time was extremely racist and the manifest destiny ideal was prominent. The Texans risked their lives to continue their lives as raciststhey did not fight for liberty. Abe Lincoln for for liberty, the forefathers of America fought for liberty, MLK fought for liberty. The Texans fought to continue to be farmers with slaves.

"Very few of us living in America have that courage anymore"

Courage? I wrote that small 25-word piece knowing people like you will be mad. Because people like you are mis-educated on the battle itself. The battlethe premise behind the battle. Who, nowadays, write 25 words that will make a whole State mad? Who will have the balls do that? I write whats true. The battle sucked. Period. Dont expand on it by talking about lives lost, what Bowie, Crockett, etc. did outside the Alamo. The main subject in my small piece was the Alamo sucked. Take it for what it is.

"Sometimes our thoughts need be contained."

What if, the people behind the Alamo and the people behind the Mexican government contained their thoughts? And you're asking me to contain my thoughts and belittling my freedom of speech to mere expression?

If those behind the battle contained their thoughts, perhaps the battle would've never happened. They fought for what they believed in, of course. And for the Texans, they believed in protecting their rights to continue slavery. For the Mexicans, they fought to keep their lands. Both were strong in their opinions, and they expressed it. Expression is dead today; not courage.

Finally:

Im glad youre doing something about this (boycotting the Tour); youre finally expressing your thoughts about something you believe in, and I respect that. But I think youre taking my small 25-word piece into something bigger, which I think is a big laugh. I never would've thought I'd anger so many people by writing 25 words. Simply amazing.

P.S. BTW, the whole piece was a joke, in case you didn't know. Youre taking it into a whole new level though, which is absolutely great because it gets boring at work. Also, the Alamo was nearly 200 years ago. Focus your energy on the problems of today, not for a writer of Super Street magazine which has a measly 250,000 readers a month. We're small time, and your issues are small time.

P.S. Get over it! There are other things to worry about in Texas and America for that matter. Super Street, seriously, will never change the world. Thanks for the great laughs this morning, though. I love messin' with Texas!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

parts of that were wrote by me to him. Roel, I had tried having civil talks with you but you further trash everything about my state with incorrect statements. good luck to your career,im sure youll go far

[jesse walker]

Further more Roel, I will make a long drawn out reply just as you expect me to.but I will urge you to reconsider what you call fact.

for those wondering, Yes he reads these threads.

[TXBlackout03]

America has nothing to do with the Alamo at that point in time... it was Texas independence...

[DEADLYACURACCY]

I must say there was never a filipino I didnt like until now. This assKlown so has a Texas Beatdown coming his way.

[Ex-RepoMan]

What Roel fails to realize is that his comments about the Alamo are not disrespectful in the sense that they reflect on one city but they are disrespectful to those who fought and died there, on both sides. Demeaning the battle itself demeans the sacrafice of the soldiers who fought not only for the Texas militia but also for the Mexican army.

-Mobil1 :eek3:

[Mr. MCoupe]

Who the hell is Roel? Some insecure guy that is begging for attention?

[azinwood]

Who the hell is Roel? Some insecure guy that is begging for attention?
i think thats a pretty good summary.


i agree with you as wall, paul.

[Leo]

Is the big deal that this guy hates Texas or that he does not agree with the American version of the Alamo?

[Mobil1]

What a pansy ass.

He can talk shit but once someone confronts him about it he turns and runs like a little bitch.

Never saw that coming! :roflmao:

Maybe there will be a retraction or an apology in next months issue. Even if there is, I wont see it because Im never picking up that magazine again.
This doesnt sound like me, I typically try to keep my colorful comments to a minimum. :-/

[Mr. MCoupe]

i think thats a pretty good summary.

Thanks. That would explain the behavior. It is this extreme lack of confidence that makes people act moronic. The desire to "look good" versus "be good" is overwhelming for such personality types.

[jesse walker]

What Roel fails to realize is that his comments about the Alamo are not disrespectful in the sense that they reflect on one city but they are disrespectful to those who fought and died there, on both sides. Demeaning the battle itself demeans the sacrafice of the soldiers who fought not only for the Texas militia but also for the Mexican army.

-Mobil1 :eek3:
thank you thats my WHOLE POINT. thats why I am upset..

[Mr. MCoupe]

thank you thats my WHOLE POINT. thats why I am upset..
Why get upset about anything? This Roel guy is a nobody.

[jesse walker]

Why get upset about anything? This Roel guy is a nobody.

eh..blame it on Dorian, he started it :kekegay:

[Brooklyn]

Is the big deal that this guy hates Texas or that he does not agree with the American version of the Alamo?

thank you....get over it people, he's a freaking writer! He earned his right to write whatever the fuck he wants on Super Street. MOVE ON, next topic...

[Mr. MCoupe]

eh..blame it on Dorian, he started it :kekegay:

aha! I need to start reading more threads here to get the background.

[super cirrus]

I say we attack.

[Spatula City]

most people that are upset now will not remember this in a week. :-/

[.César.]

most people that are upset now will not remember this in a week. :-/


I also agree. Mostly because the people who "flamed" him so to say, probaby have the attention span of say a 6-year old.. But let's just say, they were not educated with the whole story behind the ALAMO

[JDMek]

I also agree. Mostly because the people who "flamed" him so to say, probaby have the attention span of say a 6-year old.. But let's just say, they were not educated with the whole story behind the ALAMO
I disagree, I know a lot of the ppl that are very upset about this on a personal level. They will stay upset until something is done about it. That is why they are trying to get more ppl involved, boycott the tour, etc. They are very serious about this. This is no joke and some of us are very proud and stand up for what we believe, therefore do not take this type of insult and disrespect lightly.

[Streetkred]

thank you....get over it people, he's a freaking writer! He earned his right to write whatever the fuck he wants on Super Street. MOVE ON, next topic...

[jesse walker]

most people that are upset now will not remember this in a week. :-/
not true, but even if it was at least look at the positives
1) people in Tx obvisouly care
2) it has brought people a little closer

People will continue to care. those that care now will also care next month when the new magazine comes out. Besides people all over the state and country are speaking out. He calls me an Idiot, funny though, I didnt write the article he did. I even told him I respect the fact he stands and faces the jury but yet he lashes out like a 3 year old covering his ears to the truth of a nation which he prob was not even born in. He tries to make me look like the bad guy when Im sure he had recieved alot more from others then what I ever said. He deletes the comments he feels derogatory towards him on his page and leaves those semi civil(such as mine)

Forget, Ill never forget. Super street not only lost a reader, they gained a protestor, they lost free advertising for their shows,they showed their lack of respect for Texas and I wont forget that. Love the state or hate it, its your God given right(gee theres another arguement) but the response that Roel gave Dorian is pretty much what started the fuss. Roel tries twisting the truth and you know what, thats fine. He stated its "fun" messing with Texas. well just dont forget what goes around comes around and the magazine was already hurting for advertisers bc of their lack of repsect for any show but their own. I have read where people on this board have called magazine advertisers and corporations like continental. I say hooray. Take a stand. Let everyone know how you feel. If you disagree with any of that, its ok. No one said that people have to agree. I am behind Dorian on this one 100% and Ill do what I can to help.

[Spatula City]

I disagree, I know a lot of the ppl that are very upset about this on a personal level. They will stay upset until something is done about it. That is why they are trying to get more ppl involved, boycott the tour, etc. They are very serious about this. This is no joke and some of us are very proud and stand up for what we believe, therefore do not take this type of insult and disrespect lightly.
my point is that there are a lot of 'followers' on internet forums like this. one person gets upset and everyone esle seems to get upset as well. some of these people are just flexing their muscles, while others are truly offended by it.

i am saying that only a handful of people will still care about this next week. for the rest of the 'followers', next week will be another adventure of joining some other bandwagon.

by the looks of it, only a small percentage on this site knows their Texas history.

i hope justice is served, jdmek.

[Streetkred]

my point is that there are a lot of 'followers' on internet forums like this. one person gets upset and everyone esle seems to get upset as well. some of these people are just flexing their muscles, while others are truly offended by it.

i am saying that only a handful of people will still care about this next week. for the rest of the 'followers', next week will be another adventure of joining some other bandwagon.

by the looks of it, only a small percentage on this site knows their Texas history.

i hope justice is served, jdmek.


Exactly :thumb:

[BlakeAO6]

I do respect the passion these people have for their state. Like them, I'd die for my city (Long Beach) but I wouldn't get all gooey and pissy about what someone wrote about it, especially when it's a small automotive magazine with 250,000 readers a month. For one, I'm not that insecure if they someone said Long Beach sucks. It's really not that big of a deal. But I guess there's nothing better to do in Texas than defend a small missionary in the middle of Boring-Town, USA. But I am passionate about civil rights and history, and the way these guys are going about defending the Alamo is ridiculous (I'll clarify in the next few paragraphs).

That is as far as I read and I don't think I need to read much more. He being a writer should know most people begin to read further on or stop reading during or at the end of the first paragraph of an article. By him saying what he has said is not actually apologizing - which it appeared he was about to in one of the previous sentences. Just from that paragraph I say fuck that guy

[Evil Patio]

hold up, this was printed in SS? :stare:

[pizzaguy]

I just posted both articles on Centex-tuners. I'm sure the guys at Fort Hood would love this.

[JDMek]

hold up, this was printed in SS? :stare:
wow you are late.

I highly doubt this guy is going to reply. It's too much for him to handle.

[Poweredbyme91]

Even with all the BS about their being "another side" to it, Did he really think he wasn't going to offend any people with a stupid comment like that? Jesus, Some people speak out of their ass. And You would think him being an editor he would know something about responsibily and his words.

[Jetkillr]

ill ride with you all too as long as i can get off work. but atleast ill never read SS mag again! Sport Compact car only for me :P

[CarConnection]

Is this thread a spin off of the other thread where his article was posted? or has there been a different thread where he's actually spoken out then retracted his response?

[Mobil1]

Seriously guys, no violence.

Just civil protest of his publication.

[TopSeller]

the guy is a moron, but i think he is getting too much attention

[maz3da]

first let me say i was not born in the usa. people from all over the world come here and make it their home and then usually it is their children or grandchildren that pervert the thoughts and ideals of their "native" country and manipulate the history to some how make it seem that where ever it is their families came from is so much better. well go back and don't return. if you don't like this country canada is north and mexico is south pick a direction if you need help buy a map but your probably to ignorant to use it and tell me how americans screwed it up. well i wasn't born here but i am not leaving cause i love this country and i for one know i am an american fuck superstreet and roel go shove your intake where the sun don't shine.

[crx-si]

first let me say i was not born in the usa. people from all over the world come here and make it their home and then usually it is their children or grandchildren that pervert the thoughts and ideals of their "native" country and manipulate the history to some how make it seem that where ever it is their families came from is so much better. well go back and don't return. if you don't like this country canada is north and mexico is south pick a direction if you need help buy a map but your probably to ignorant to use it and tell me how americans screwed it up. well i wasn't born here but i am not leaving cause i love this country and i for one know i am an american fuck superstreet and roel go shove your intake where the sun don't shine.
:wrd: same here

[1990hatch]

it says "online now" on his my space

[Spo0n_This]

and the plot thickens

[mikesrex]

he made it private then deleted it:
http://tinypic.com/aauk61.jpg
http://tinypic.com/aaukco.jpg
http://tinypic.com/aauknc.jpg
http://tinypic.com/aaukqb.jpg

I'm pretty sure it got hammered by comments since I took the screenshots.

[Limeade]

My supscription has been cancelled.

[Smodlicious2]

:madfuck: you Super street.

[Dorian]

I wonder if he thinks his response to me was a joke.

Thank God someone got screen shots this time.

[sci motorsports]

i can't believe this roel guy still thinks the battle was over slavery, what a dumbass

[jesse walker]

=(

[Evil Patio]

What can we do to make it the worst event in their schedule ?

Maybe organize a free show and shine and sell water and BBQ for 50% less then the venue ???
LOL, call it the Don't Mess W/ Texas Show and Shine. :thumb:

[Evil Patio]

wow you are late.

I highly doubt this guy is going to reply. It's too much for him to handle.
I havent been on the forum as much, of course I'm late!

[Mobil1]

LOL, call it the Don't Mess W/ Texas Show and Shine. :thumb:
Nice. :)

and

Ask Enkei to drop their sponsorship of the Super Street show and sponsor our show as a show of support for Texas heritage.

If youre going to do something, do it big.


:D

[phast]

LOL, call it the Don't Mess W/ Texas Show and Shine. :thumb:
We could sell shirts with this on them:
Remember the Alamo, forget about Super Street

[Prelude92]

i wonder if roel realizes how big of a hole got himself into? from his responses in the screenshots, i see that he is not taking this as serious as others are. but like someone mentioned earlier it's not his fault for publishing his opinions it's SS publishing editors. Maybe they did this intentionally to attract the attention they are getting now?? Well whatever the reason for this i foreshadow more to come...

[Dorian]

We could sell shirts with this on them:
Remember the Alamo, forget about Super Street
That's freaking awesome!

[appleburger]

We could sell shirts with this on them:
Remember the Alamo, forget about Super Street
put me down for 3.

[Prelude92]

i likes :thumb:

p.s. viva los Perez (need accent on e) :(

[Michael]

Dude, he just fucked his job security. You'd think that as a journalist he'd be just as accountable opinion-wise as a politician. There's no way Primedia can possibly "let this slide" if they're properly informed of the situation.

[Mobil1]

We could sell shirts with this on them:
Remember the Alamo, forget about Super Street
Winner!

Someone do it. :D

[jesse walker]

Winner!

Someone do it. :D
please do!

and if you call Enkei ask for Suzanne Mckinney. but BE POLITE GUYS she is helping out already. She has seen these forums. Call the Ft worth office..express your concerns and opinions. I told her we are having a anti super street rally/show here in houston. we dont want negative publicity towards Enkei bc they have nothing to do with Roels views. but by all means let every Texas advertiser of SS know, we dont like what SS has done, and wont stand for it.

[jesse walker]

Is this thread a spin off of the other thread where his article was posted? or has there been a different thread where he's actually spoken out then retracted his response?
this thread was just asking for him to step up to the plate. he wont post here though im sure.

[CBridah]

nice

[nuWest]

FUCK ROEL, IM FROM TEXAS.

[DrKilljoY]

Contact info for Primedia:

PRIMEDIA Inc.
745 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10151
Telephone: (212) 745-0100
Fax: (212) 745-0121
E-mail: information@primedia.com


Contact info for Super Street Magazine:

Super Street Magazine
6420 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90048
Telephone: (323) 782-2000
Fax: (323) 782-2263

Publisher: Howard Lim
Editor: John Naderi

[pizzaguy]

FUCK ROEL, IM FROM TEXAS.

[Kyo]

Wow. Interesting thread. If you guys plan something out, count me in. I'd like to see where this ultimately goes.

[omg hay guyZ!]

Seriously guys, no violence.

Just civil protest of his publication.

[jesse walker]

AND NOW a word from a super street sponsor/advertiser.

Hi ____,

Thank you for the update. Just to let you know, we spoke to Super
Street this morning and expressed our disappointment and concern with them.
_____ does take this very seriously and Super Street does realize this
now. We do not think this is a joke and are not going to just blow it
off. Thank you for bringing this to our attention and I'll keep you
posted as to the outcome of our conversations.

Thanks,
_______

[black_tl]

he such a dumbass

[slammed00si]

wow this douche bag who isnt even from texas. now knows more about texas history then those who grew up here. well ss sucks anyway there realy is no info in the mag at all. liberal california assholes if you ask me. remember the alamo bitches!!!!!!!!!!

[slammed00si]

this guy has allready admitted he is to much of a pussy to handle this. it should be clear when he took down all the things that were written. but we will see. dont mess with texas mf

[Poonkla]

What probably happened is, that some of his bosses caught some heat, and they simply told him to make all of the online content disappear that he can control, and they are going to try and ignore it. The same thing happened at the place I work when we found out some guy ranted and raved about everybody in the company on his blog.

[jesse walker]

What probably happened is, that some of his bosses caught some heat, and they simply told him to make all of the online content disappear that he can control, and they are going to try and ignore it. The same thing happened at the place I work when we found out some guy ranted and raved about everybody in the company on his blog.
well they caught some today as i had posted, but their are people all over the state still contacting diff companys who advertise with SS.

[SecretAgent]

unfortunately that's just not good enough. he's already taken it too far. what i feel we should ask for is a formal apology published in the next issue of Super Street. his comments are unfounded, and have no place in the magazine. this isn't an issue of free speech, but one of tact and appropriateness.

[Kyo]

liberal california assholes if you ask me. remember the alamo bitches!!!!!!!!!!
I'm an asshole....:bawling:

[jesse walker]

unfortunately that's just not good enough. he's already taken it too far. what i feel we should ask for is a formal apology published in the next issue of Super Street. his comments are unfounded, and have no place in the magazine. this isn't an issue of free speech, but one of tact and appropriateness.
I have a feeling they will. The Alamo has NOTHING to do with continental tires. Roel saw a cheap shot to further his political standing with Mexican extremist groups, and he took it. I think we should press for a apology to.

[Kyo]

*grabs popcorn and a comfy blanket*
:wrd:

[appleburger]

I have a feeling they will. The Alamo has NOTHING to do with continental tires. Roel saw a cheap shot to further his political standing with Mexican extremist groups, and he took it. I think we should press for a apology to.
even with an apology, i will never buy the magazine again.

[conecrazy]

I have a feeling they will. The Alamo has NOTHING to do with continental tires. Roel saw a cheap shot to further his political standing with Mexican extremist groups, and he took it. I think we should press for a apology to.

mexican extremist groups? why do you say that? i think he is just an over opinionated asshole who enjoys pissing people off.

[Mobil1]

I have a feeling they will. The Alamo has NOTHING to do with continental tires. Roel saw a cheap shot to further his political standing with Mexican extremist groups, and he took it. I think we should press for a apology to.
That is certainly an interesting theory, any proof to back it?

[Dy Lon]

Well I missed something.. any links to fill in the blanks for those of us who don't know whats up? :hs:

[Dorian]

Well I missed something.. any links to fill in the blanks for those of us who don't know whats up? :hs:
My original thread:

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217455

Jesse put up his response:

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217767

I responded halfway down the page:

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217767&page=4

Then he took down his original response and posted this :

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217767&page=7

[ElTauro]

I'm an asshole....:bawling:
me too... :wompwomp:

[slammed00si]

misread i didnt say everyone in california or a liberal was an asshole :thumb:
im not even a liberal and im an asshole :eek3dance

[Trung]

We could sell shirts with this on them:
Remember the Alamo, forget about Super Street

:thumb:

[4DoorTeg]

That is as far as I read and I don't think I need to read much more. He being a writer should know most people begin to read further on or stop reading during or at the end of the first paragraph of an article. By him saying what he has said is not actually apologizing - which it appeared he was about to in one of the previous sentences. Just from that paragraph I say fuck that guy

yea i say the same.

[gismo4]

wow, where's the professionalism? do they let kids represent Super Street now? harsh language to 'try' to prove your point = high school drop out. stay in school man, just stay in school and say no to drugs, mmmkay!

he might as well took the picture with, not that of the alamo, but of the american flag. what a douchebag. he would have got his ass kicked if i, or anyone for that matter, saw that.

[gismo4]

so will there be a thread for a boycott in fort worth? set up a date and time to meet up. i'll be there. it will make a HUGE impact, especially if everyone has modified cars. i mean, that is their audience. or did i miss it?

[hatchbacksi]

Someone get Mike Jones in on this... :eek3:

[VQuick]

I couldn't care less. I stopped reading Super Street long before Roel showed up.

[HangNail]

Someone get Mike Jones in on this... :eek3:
who?

[kibo55]

davy crockett was really from like tennessee and im confused how are we supposed to quote unquote do our homework when everything we read in the history books is wrong!? think about it

[kibo55]

and he sure seems to KnOw allot about something that he thinks is boring and stupid. guy sounds pretty hypocritical to me.

[DyNo_MyTe]

its pretty obvious he's just mad that his motherland mexico didn't end up with texas and we did. RIP santa anna.

Man, there is no need to talk shit about us mexicans. I got pissed when i read what he wrote too and i'm from Mexico so wtf.

[Crazyfool999]

this shows the power forums have (especially this one) i say boycott that faggot ass mag that really amounts to nothing like many other magazines.... keep us posted on the putcomes of the convos with the sponsors/ss and if there is anything i can do please let me know :)

[Pr3Lud3PLaYa]

Santa Anna naming himself dictator and sending troops to Texas to disassemble militia to avoid revolution he feared coming from US influence, trying to declare a national religion, unfair tariffs, and abolishment of slavery were all factors in the war. The previous Mexican government declared an abolishment of slavery and illegal to hold any, just as in the US Civil War though some thought it was wrong. So yeah, Mexicans held slaves and so did American Texans even though abolishment was declared, just like here in the states. So Roel is stupid and if that was the case, maybe he should go throughout all the southern US and say all areas suck and give them a thumbs down because they were slave supporters and I know for a fact there are places even more boring throughout South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama. His defense:
It was boring to him: many more boring places throughout the south that he has been to
Shouldn't be glorified because slavery was being defended: partially true for some citizens. However, many more places in the US did that and he hasn't given them a thumbs down for it and disrespected those places.
Roel and SS suck. Texas ownz!

[conecrazy]

Originally Posted by appleburger
its pretty obvious he's just mad that his motherland mexico didn't end up with texas and we did. RIP santa anna.

Man, there is no need to talk shit about us mexicans. I got pissed when i read what he wrote too and i'm from Mexico so wtf.

uh... he's not mexican. nor is mexico his "motherland."

[jesse walker]

so will there be a thread for a boycott in fort worth? set up a date and time to meet up. i'll be there. it will make a HUGE impact, especially if everyone has modified cars. i mean, that is their audience. or did i miss it?
Super Street is holding their car show at Enkei. It would be unfair to Enkei for everyone to go Boycot there as it may bring negative publicity to Enkei in the process. I say hold a Boycott show here. The news channels would eat it up im sure. Send in Pictures to SS and other mags showing them how much people care for the issue..

On a side note I have seen people flame me bc of my actions against super street. All I can say is that there is ALOT of what Roel said that now has been deleted . The things he said that were deleted were very disturbing to say the least and One blog he made directed towards Texas was extremely political. As a associate editor for the magazine, his actions in and outside of work reflect S.S. Now some may not agree with that but heres whats worse. Dorian titled the letter to super street. It was passed along to diff persons in SS, ROel responded on SS's behalf with his own letter to Dorian. If you read the magazine there are plenty of times where they call people Idiots and even in a email to me Roel stated that most of his readers are Bumbling Idiots age 16-24.
Should we just sit back and let Super street say anything they want?Well to be honest, they ARE allowed to say as they wish. But in turn we have every right to stand up against them.Even more so since we are the consumers of what they print. Some people do not believe in political action, to those who dont;Im sorry but I do. The history of our nation is changed through political action.
What can one group of people do? Well we can send a message to all of these media groups saying, we take notice and wont sit Idle as you degrade America. This goes far beyond just talking bad about Texas and Texans. I hope others realize that he could have said this about anyone or their state.I feel they should have thought about the outcome to what they printed. They never dreamed it would make people so mad, so they claim. ROel had a reason for what he printed and in his letters to us (Texas)on behalf of SS, he went into detail over how we are Idiots for having pride in our state, remembering the Alamo,and for speaking out.
Calling the whole state Idiots and further more calling MOST of his readers aged 16-24 Idiots, should be enough for people to take action.

[appleburger]

Man, there is no need to talk shit about us mexicans. I got pissed when i read what he wrote too and i'm from Mexico so wtf.
it was a joke, calm down. :thumb:

[SecretAgent]

i say since the comments were originally about san antonio and uvalde, how about we hold a show there? perhaps san antonio raceway, or even in uvalde, i'm sure we can get their city council to cover some expenses, and continental tires and general tire would be happy for the support i'm sure.

[OneArmedScissor]

I couldn't care less. I stopped reading Super Street long before Roel showed up.

precisely.

Super Street is a magazine that caters to kids who don't even have licenses or cars yet. Their readership and reading level is that of 14-18 year old males.

Grassroots motorsports is a much better example of an automotive magazine.
Modified magazine has kickass photography and is printed on nice stock so you get really sexy pictures.

[Dorian]

aha! I need to start reading more threads here to get the background.
:o

[94CapriceSS]

Id just like to say that I have read this whole thread, and it is the best 30 minutes I have ever spent. I want to give each and every one of you a manly hug and kiss lol!


Im down for one of those shirts. Infact...maybe Ill run by the shirt store later today and see how much it would cost me!!!


*Idea For The Shirt*

We need to have that whole article somehow printed on the back, so people can see what is going on. That way, they just dont think were assholes. I would honestly buy that shirt.

I too have GREAT Texan pride. And if were really gona cruise on up to do some hatin on that mother fucker, Ill see what I can do to HAPPILY ride with yall.



Mind you, Texas boyz gotta have their V8, ARLINGTON, TX MADE MOTHER FUCKERS, big ol rumblin toys too [;)]

[jesse walker]

i say since the comments were originally about san antonio and uvalde, how about we hold a show there? perhaps san antonio raceway, or even in uvalde, i'm sure we can get their city council to cover some expenses, and continental tires and general tire would be happy for the support i'm sure.
LETS DO IT!

[94CapriceSS]

If yall do do a show and shine in San Antonio, I can get a few Impala SS guys out there. I could show them our thread here, and Im sure they would be more than happy to help out. Import or Domestic aside, messing with Texas is just not right.

[HangNail]

an alamo show/meet would be cool.

[sci motorsports]

i say we have a show in houston or dallas here's why

i've been here in san antonio all my life
san antonio is the hardest city to promote for anything....it is fickle
you can distribute fliers for 3 months before the event, have radio advertising, etc.
you have a large light to attract people like moths
people everywhere you go will talk about how cool it is going to be
................
day of event
you have a crapload of people from houston, dallas, mexico, allover the nation...but 100 people from san antonio

people will bitch about any admission ticket over $10
people with show cars will bitch about $15 for entry fee
racers will show up...break and bitch about running out of beer (or atleast i would)

nopi came to san antonio and lost their asses
idrc came here, and the turnout everytime was piss

we could have an event in uvalde but is is a small town the cops will watch us like hawks and with a total population of about 20,000 people how big of a turnout would you expect it is 6 hours from houston longer of a drive from dallas

[94CapriceSS]

Im down for a Houston show.We could invite competing mags that are better than SS(IE: Any and All) cover the event.



We should do it at San Jacinto, and hang a Roel dummy by his balls from the monument. Then shoot him out of a cannon from one of the near by ships.:rofl:

[VQuick]

precisely.

Super Street is a magazine that caters to kids who don't even have licenses or cars yet. Their readership and reading level is that of 14-18 year old males.

Grassroots motorsports is a much better example of an automotive magazine.
Modified magazine has kickass photography and is printed on nice stock so you get really sexy pictures.

And Sport Compact Car has the 'sleeper on a budget' philosophy I identify with. The rally coverage(and participation) and foreign correspondents are cool too.

I've read a couple issues of Grassroots. It's really cool, but a little too motorsports oriented for my liking(it's got motorsports in the title, after all). To me, it's more for the guys who compete. I just want an enjoyable car to drive. :hs: I guess that's why I read evo, too.

[pizzaguy]

i say we have a show in houston or dallas here's why

i've been here in san antonio all my life
san antonio is the hardest city to promote for anything....it is fickle
you can distribute fliers for 3 months before the event, have radio advertising, etc.
you have a large light to attract people like moths
people everywhere you go will talk about how cool it is going to be
................
day of event
you have a crapload of people from houston, dallas, mexico, allover the nation...but 100 people from san antonio

people will bitch about any admission ticket over $10
people with show cars will bitch about $15 for entry fee
racers will show up...break and bitch about running out of beer (or atleast i would)

nopi came to san antonio and lost their asses
idrc came here, and the turnout everytime was piss

we could have an event in uvalde but is is a small town the cops will watch us like hawks and with a total population of about 20,000 people how big of a turnout would you expect it is 6 hours from houston longer of a drive from dallas

Get the local news station in SA in on this I'm in Waco and we would like to cover it b/c this applys to the entire state. But we can't go all the way to SA or Houston for it and have it ready for 5 or 6. Trust me most of the time reporters spend the day fishing for stories and media coverage b4 the boycott will reach far more people. Hell if you go to ABC then we could pickup the news feed and play it here the next day. Good luck guys if I can help in anyway PM me.
BTW subscription switched

[apocs93lude]

Ya'll can count me in, someone come up with a t-shirt design, I'm in Killeen Texaz I use to work for a t-shirt company I can see what he can work out... but I'll need a design.... so let me know... if you guys do throw a show or roll up to FW let me know.... I'll get my crew together...
hit up the forums on www.grouponedfw.com and www.dfwminis.com thier the ones that would most likely hit up that SS show... peace

-Adrian


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[sci motorsports]

cool
i'm contacting the news people....when i can, i gotsta work!

[TurbosRFunny]

I support what you guys are saying, it's cool and all that you guys are sticking up for the state. What i'm really wondering is how much of this is all talk, and how much of this is actually gonna take place.

Not flaming or anything, just asking a question, because we all know for a fact that everytime someone plans something it doesnt get the response everyone expected, or it just doesnt happen. Hopefully it does though.

[SecretAgent]

I support what you guys are saying, it's cool and all that you guys are sticking up for the state. What i'm really wondering is how much of this is all talk, and how much of this is actually gonna take place.

Not flaming or anything, just asking a question, because we all know for a fact that everytime someone plans something it doesnt get the response everyone expected, or it just doesnt happen. Hopefully it does though.


trust us, this is happening.

[DrKilljoY]

FYI: For all you cross-posters out there... here are a couple of other threads about the matter:

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=834330#post834330
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=130220http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=452216

Any other threads anywhere else?

It might be nice to have them all in one place so we can update them when the event gets the green light.

[Spo0n_This]

ive said it once ill say it again. fuck the internet and all this talking. get some frequent flyer miles. find this indian or wtf ever he is and beat the fuck out of him while playing a dont mess with texas comercial in the background

[jesse walker]

mexican extremist groups? why do you say that? i think he is just an over opinionated asshole who enjoys pissing people off.
I dont have proof..he had sent me a link to some radical thinking group. I think i was just pissed when i wrote "mexican extremist groups" bc i had so many emails from him going on and on and on. So I may have been way off base, I just cant see why he would ask me to visit those sites. seemed to me he was saying what he said about Tx not only to piss ppl off, but to impress others? I dunno

[conecrazy]

i think he probably knows all about psychiatry as well since he read about the history of psychiatry.

what's up with all these people lately? they think they are the authority on something just cause they read one book?

[SILVER]

just give him time, im sure Roel is trying to look through history books trying to sound smart and cover his ass for such ignorant statement (you know well he didnt do any research before writing that stupid remark, hes just now covering his ass).

at least it shows how strong Texas Pride really is, theres nothing like it anywhere else. :rock:

[jesse walker]

at least it shows how strong Texas Pride really is, theres nothing like it anywhere else. :rock:
that is very true.

[CarConnection]

just give him time, im sure Roel is trying to look through history books trying to sound smart and cover his ass for such ignorant statement (you know well he didnt do any research before writing that stupid remark, hes just now covering his ass).

at least it shows how strong Texas Pride really is, theres nothing like it anywhere else. :rock:

also shows he'd be a moron to come inside state lines again... w/ so many readers in texas, a trip inside our lines would be a assured hell hole of a trip.

[dont_carebear]

Who cares. You guys are making a big fuss over nothing. What you guys are actually doing is help promote super street.

[bigpimpin13210]

can someone kinda give me cliff notes. im lost

[phast]

Who cares. You guys are making a big fuss over nothing. What you guys are actually doing is help promote super street.
I really don't think so. They've actually lost quite a few subscribers from this forum alone.

[appleburger]

Who cares. You guys are making a big fuss over nothing. What you guys are actually doing is help promote super street.
you are wrong.

[phast]

can someone kinda give me cliff notes. im lost
Roel from Super Street says fuck the Alamo and Texas and we're pretty pissed off about it. So we're taking action against him and Super Street.

[bigpimpin13210]

Roel from Super Street says fuck the Alamo and Texas.

why would he say that? is there a reason?

[phast]

why would he say that? is there a reason?
S14Wanabe (Dorian) wrote a respectful and mature letter about Roel's comments and photographs that were printed in a recent issue of SS. Roel responded to Dorian with "f*ck the Alamo and Texas".