Dear Super Street...

[Dorian]

There aren’t many things that piss me off. Seriously. Hurting animals that can’t defend themselves pisses me off. Hurting kids because parents can’t control their alcohol pisses me off. Talking trash about the city and state where I’m from pisses me off. Although there are many things wrong here in Texas I still love this state.

A one Roel Concepcion from Super Street has managed to piss me off. First off let me say that this is not a rant about Super Street. I have been a loyal Super Street reader for over 5 years. Hell, I even posted on the same site as some of the staff frequented (World of Pacific Rim) when it was up way back in the day. Even when people talked badly about Ricky Chu and his car, I tried to step in and at least correct the haters out there in the 240sx world. I give “props” where “props” is due you could say. This is a rant about their associate editor Roel Concepcion and his lack of tact. I understand that the magazine is going through changes but the low blow dealt to my city was unwarranted. What did he say you ask? Let me tell you. On page 176 of the September 2005 issue in the top right hand picture it states:

“Continental and General Tires took me to San Antonio to mess with Texas. And like Tim Duncan, San Antonio was tediously boring, especially The Alamo. Sorry Davy Crockett, but your battle sucked.”

And has a “thumbs down” in front of the Alamo.

The article itself was fine. It’s the unnecessary bullshit, which had nothing to do with Continental tires or the trip to Uvalde that is offensive. In the article itself it states that he was in Uvalde, Texas. Uvalde is not San Antonio. I agree that there isn’t much to do in Uvalde, so I hope he was confused with the two cities. However, I seriously can’t believe that anyone can claim San Antonio is so boring that you have to take a picture of your thumb pointing down in front of the Alamo and print it in a national selling magazine. It would have been better if Mr. Concepcion had defecated on the grounds rather then print his opinion. Why is it so offensive? Because I believe that the Alamo stands for the sacrifice people are willing to give for freedom. Because the Alamo is a historic landmark that Roel thinks is amusing to make fun of. Anyone from Texas can understand that. I guess someone not from here won’t understand. So I’m going to put it into simple terms that people everywhere can understand.

Would you go to the beach of Normandy where soldiers died and take a picture on the beach and say that the battle sucked? No.

Would you go to Oklahoma City and take a picture in front of where the Oklahoma City bombing happened and put a thumbs down in front of it just because in your opinion Oklahoma City was boring? No.

Would you go to the Vietnam wall and pick out a name and tell people across this great nation that they died for nothing? No.

Are you starting to understand why it’s offensive? I would hope so. Give respect where respect is due. People died there. At least have some respect for the dead.

If Mr. Concepcion found this city so boring then I’m sure he would have at least checked out some of the local shops here to see what this city has to offer the import world. Did anyone hear about Super Street going to one of the shops in San Antonio? If he was so bored then I’m sure he tried to get a hold of someone out here to at least find a decent strip club to go to. Hell I would have bought for him that night if anyone had told me someone from Super Street was in town. Hmm, now that I think about it, if Mr. Concepcion was so bored then I’m sure he went out of his way try to find out what there is to do in this town. Sadly if that were the case, he wouldn’t have submitted a picture that would offend a Texan. Even if the disrespect displayed in the article were towards any other city like Dallas, El Paso, Austin, Houston or even Laredo, I would still be writing this.

I do not want an apology from Mr. Concepcion. Hell I don’t even expect a response. Instead I have decided to never read Super Street again. Don’t get me wrong; the magazine has a lot of cool cars, and keeps me entertained while I’m taking a shit in the bathroom. It’s the lack of respect that has slipped through the cracks that has forever put me off. I’m sure losing one more reader won’t change anything for them. However I’m not the only one who has decided to end their subscription because of this offense.

Dorian E. Perez

PS: As for the Tim Duncan comment…well…Tim has enough money to buy Roel’s life 10 times over. So say what you want about the NBA champions of this year. They still have millions of dollars...and better cars.

[phast]

I stopped reading SS a long time ago. It's almost like Import Tuner to me.

EDIT
Oh, and I think you could take Roel, Dorian. I saw his short ass at that Traxion event a long time ago.

[mojo_jojo77777]

i still have a subscription to ss :(

[phast]

i still have a subscription to ss :(
Primedia thanks you.....the rest of us want to kick you in the nuts for supporting that rag.

[omg hay guyZ!]

superstreet sucks, and that guy sucks for talkin shit about the alamo.

[Outlaw]

meh fuckem

[-=E36=-]

I dumped SS a long time ago. Along with other car mags that started sucking with it.

[94CapriceSS]

I skimmed and read "The Alamo sucked", and immediatly had to read again! Fuck you SS, for making me have to read all those words, and talking down about my state. I have so much pride in Texas, its not even funny. I love this state to death. Ive been to others before, and honestly, I cant wait to get home. The people, the sites, the weather(Im warm blooded, back off lol), and I just dont think I could leave Texas!

In the end...

A royal FUCK YOU, you super street.

[raemi]

hahaha i didnt know ppl still read that crap. tuner is going down the shit hole too. the only real decent magazine out there is modified.

[phast]

hahaha i didnt know ppl still read that crap. tuner is going down the shit hole too. the only real decent magazine out there is modified.
And SCC. Even though it's part of Primedia it's headed in a good direction.

[raemi]

And SCC. Even though it's part of Primedia it's headed in a good direction.



i havent picked up a scc in years. not enough articles that really appealed to me. tuner would be the most fitting if it had some pictures of cars....

[phast]

i havent picked up a scc in years. not enough articles that really appealed to me. tuner would be the most fitting if it had some pictures of cars....
SCC was the first mag I really got into. I found SS not too much longer after that and glanced at a couple of IT but I have always liked SCC. The only Modified mag I picked up was nice. Haven't picked one up since though. Maybe I should.

[SILVER]

they keep sending me those "last issue" SS mags, when will they stop?

i dont even read them, they go straight to the trash along will all other crap from the mail

[-=E36=-]

I thought Import Tuner always sucked. Maybe because most of the cars were show cars and never really appealed to me.

[I HATE JDM]

here tell him how much he sux.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=705583&Mytoken=20050808110351

and ss
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9666541&Mytoken=20050808110351

[FbodTrek]

I'll say this much, of the other states I've visited....I'd rather be in Texas. Editor is prolly some pussy ass yankee anyhow, he knows damn well he'd catch an ass whippin' from a Texan if he said that to their face. Oh, and BTW, there are NO good looking women ANYWHERE but Texas... Ok, maybe Cali...but it's Cali for christ sake :hs:

[I HATE JDM]

let him come back and TRY to mess with Tx, what a piece of shit he is

[CBridah]

dats gay.. fuk ss.. they suk toes! hehe

[RealLive]

what a douchebag...why does he even belong in any magazine

[I HATE JDM]

i just cant get over that, it really pisses me off.

[Anti Muscle]

heres the pic for those that havent seen it:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v688/antimuscle/th_DSC01435.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/antimuscle/DSC01435.jpg)
needless to say that after taking the pic, and not even bieng half way done with the mag, i thru it away...

[crx-si]

I dropped SS long time ago for the facts that most of their feature cars have no appeal to me, not much on technical (dyno, etc..), their articles alway start out with corny stories that have nothing to do with cars......I can go on, but the bottom line is that SS sucks big time and you shouldn't let their ignorance comments bother you

[Dorian]

he knows damn well he'd catch an ass whippin' from a Texan Exactly.

You know damn well some of the fastest cars in the US come from Texas.

On a side note: Thanks for the support guys. I wasn't sure about the feedback I was going to get but like I said, it pissed me off. Feel free to link this.

[Mobil1]

This should be stickied in here and in the Ramblings section.

We should ask the users of Texas based automotive forums flood SS with mail similar to Dorians.

[al]

those damn balut eating Filipinos :madfuck:

[I HATE JDM]

This should be stickied in here and in the Ramblings section.

We should ask the users of Texas based automotive forums flood SS with mail similar to Dorians.


agreed110%

[black_tl]

There mag sucks I got a subscription as a gift and I called primedia and try to change. They go off topic too much.

[Mobil1]

What is the superstreet email address?

Should we simply copy Dorian's email or write individual ones?

BTW: I plan on copying this on to many other automotive forums I frequent, is that alright? I'll give due credit.

[Fury]

I call shenanigans.

[defvayne]

fuck ss.... i love San Antonio.

[Dorian]

What is the superstreet email address?

Should we simply copy Dorian's email or write individual ones?

BTW: I plan on copying this on to many other automotive forums I frequent, is that alright? I'll give due credit.
Yeah that's fine. I'm not sure what the ss email is though.

[Crazyfool999]

that is just a retarded as comment meant to start a smirk in readers not from texas.... i hated SS ever since i saw the first sticker on ricor mobiles...

to see an example drive up and down airline dr in N houston on sundays and u shall see whut i mean

[azinwood]

lack of tact. not a very professional way of representing his magazine.

i'm glad you wrote that dorian and i hope he catches wind of this and at least responds.

[VolksFaggin]

Hes just butt hurt because there not 20 zillion ricers in SA like where his sorry ass is from. Fart Tart.

[al]

Hes just butt hurt because there not 20 zillion ricers in SA like where his sorry ass is from. Fart Tart.

:dunno: I thought I was the source of his butthurt

[I HATE JDM]

lack of tact. not a very professional way of representing his magazine.

i'm glad you wrote that dorian and i hope he catches wind of this and at least responds.
DONT WORRY HE WILL SEE IT, I SENT A EMAIL TO HIS DISRESPECTFUL ASS. people you can use his myspace page and super streets myspace page as well. or go to rickys home page. tell them all how wrong they are. or i guess they could send Roel back here. im sure theres a million or more ppl who will show him how we feel about Tx and ppl who try to trash it. =)

[mk3ofdoom]

that is messed up, but 2 wrongs dont make a right. Hopefully one day we can get him back here and we can get some crews from SA to show him how texas gets down. I can get the SA euro club on the phone and assemble them within hours, show him the finer points of the city :thumb:

[I HATE JDM]

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

tell them how upset you are!

[Dorian]

lack of tact. not a very professional way of representing his magazine.

i'm glad you wrote that dorian and i hope he catches wind of this and at least responds.
He responded Franny :hs: : http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217767

[Psyco Systems]

I posted in his blog... I asked him to create a blog for this... we will see what he does...


David

[Hotrodguru]

Well the only real way to voice your opinion with a magazine is by hitting them where it hurts. This was brought up regarding Super Street and companies who advertise in it.

Well luckily I still had a business card handy for Conti/General Tires Director of Marketing. Just gave her a call and spoke to her secretary. Just happens to be that 2 senior marketing folks from Germany are currently attending meetings in Uvalde and are out to lunch. I'll update you guys when I hear something. I know the secretary was pretty upset about the situation and I'm sure Conti/General wouldn't want to be associated with a publication with such biased views.

Guru

[Dorian]

Thanks Guru.

[xtc4us]

Well the only real way to voice your opinion with a magazine is by hitting them where it hurts. This was brought up regarding Super Street and companies who advertise in it.

Well luckily I still had a business card handy for Conti/General Tires Director of Marketing. Just gave her a call and spoke to her secretary. Just happens to be that 2 senior marketing folks from Germany are currently attending meetings in Uvalde and are out to lunch. I'll update you guys when I hear something. I know the secretary was pretty upset about the situation and I'm sure Conti/General wouldn't want to be associated with a publication with such biased views.

Guru

I knew Jay was in the Mafia. :p

Bring it down!!! BRING IT ALL DOWN!!! :eek3:

[turbogreed]

i signed up to myspace just to tell that bitch off

[mikesrex]

i signed up to myspace just to tell that bitch off
add me lol

[HangNail]

what a piece of trash.

[A is 4 PiMp]

i stopped looking at ss (i never read the articles, just looked at the pics) whenever they became all "JDM RULZ W00T!!! JDM PAGE AFTER PAGE EVEN THOUGH THERE ARENT VERY MANY PAGES BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE ADVERTISEMENTS!!" :stare:

[Hot~Hachi]

just read Grass roots motorsports

[Stiggz]

good shit guru...i hope you can pull some string sto really nail this dude int he ass,,,

that dude wont come within Texas' bordering states anymore...he'd catch a case quick...if he is spotted in H-Town, he wont leave without a toe tag...

[Dorian]

A big thank you to VQuick (Joel) for providing my proofread.

[03whitecivic]

those damn balut eating Filipinos :madfuck:
im filipino...you have a problem with me?

[azinwood]

im filipino...you have a problem with me?
ease up, al is filipino, he was being sarcastic.

[03whitecivic]

ease up, al is filipino, he was being sarcastic.
got it...

[JDMek]

Well the only real way to voice your opinion with a magazine is by hitting them where it hurts. This was brought up regarding Super Street and companies who advertise in it.

Well luckily I still had a business card handy for Conti/General Tires Director of Marketing. Just gave her a call and spoke to her secretary. Just happens to be that 2 senior marketing folks from Germany are currently attending meetings in Uvalde and are out to lunch. I'll update you guys when I hear something. I know the secretary was pretty upset about the situation and I'm sure Conti/General wouldn't want to be associated with a publication with such biased views.

Guru
awesome, keep us posted.

[accordvtec]

im cancelling my sub...to them......
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[killboy Si]

I Stop Reading SS to.

Fuck that dude "Don't Mess With Texas!"

[yourmom25]

while i share y'all's deep love for the great state of texas, i don't share this whole "fuck him for messing with tx." yea sure he insulted tx, sa, and the alamo. it's not uncommon for someone to express an opinion on a city, whether founded or unfounded.

i am awed by the fact that some of y'all are taking this to great lengths and fully support you. i just don't think making a huge deal about it all over his myspace was necessary. and s14wannabe, did you send that letter to SS? i wonder if they'd publish that.

[98 ex]

that guy has no respect for texas or history... to make y'all feel better he might just end up goin to hell

[SpydiR]

that guy has no respect for texas or history... to make y'all feel better he might just end up goin to hell

my subscription just ran out last month and looks like I won't be reupping. Fuck "Hoel" and super street.

[babietuan323]

i dont think anybody has been more pissed about what has happened at the alamo since Ozzy's visit in 82

[jesse walker]

while i share y'all's deep love for the great state of texas, i don't share this whole "fuck him for messing with tx." yea sure he insulted tx, sa, and the alamo. it's not uncommon for someone to express an opinion on a city, whether founded or unfounded.

i am awed by the fact that some of y'all are taking this to great lengths and fully support you. i just don't think making a huge deal about it all over his myspace was necessary. and s14wannabe, did you send that letter to SS? i wonder if they'd publish that.
To be honest, no one was really that mad until Roel wrote a response to Dorians letter. Roel still thinks this is over the distasteful piece in SS but its not. Yes that was offensive to some. but his continued degrading of Texas history and lack of respect makes alot of ppl mad. but then again we are talking about a guy who qoute said " most of my readers are bumbling idiots". Super street knows that the following they had years ago is long since gone. They have tried to be a little edgier. Roel goes on and on about how Texas is sensitive but he wishes it on himself. he thinks a little game and says things like "messing with Texas is fun". Sure its fun when your two thousand miles away, Im sure he hasnt the nerve to say any of this to someone in person.Roel wants to say how much of an idiot I am, but the last time I checked, he wrote the article,he wrote the response, I got Dorians back on this one and I will defend Texas to the end. If we take no pride in our home, whats the point in living here. I take GREAT pride in my state. Most of Texas does give a shit about a 31 word capture, and the response from the magazine.
Dorians letter was to super street, Roel responded on behalf of himself and the magazine. what Roel says is what Super street says. After all he did write a response to a letter tittled "dear super street" right?correct.

It is true that many of us, many of our fathers, many of our family members have fought so that people like Super Street can say what they want. Does the fact that the constitution give you power of speech make it right to degrade a state history? No. The point in this is that this is not the first time Super street has expressed their opinion, this is the first time people have united and took a stand against them though. If they say it about Texas, they will say it about any state. All they ever had to do was tell someone they were coming to Texas. Instead they go and talk about how boring it is. and the problem in that is this...People read the mag, people who have never been to Texas generalize by what they have read. A typical response from super street would be"well they are ignorant for their generalizations."

The power of press is great, but that doesnt mean abuse it.I think it was refreshing to see Dorian take a stand. I applaude Houston-Imports for taking a stand too.

Guru, did you get in contact with the tire manufacturers? I also read some people had called advertisers of the magazine, how'd that go? I will not be going on SS tour or attending their show and shine.

[Dorian]

while i share y'all's deep love for the great state of texas, i don't share this whole "fuck him for messing with tx." yea sure he insulted tx, sa, and the alamo. it's not uncommon for someone to express an opinion on a city, whether founded or unfounded.

i am awed by the fact that some of y'all are taking this to great lengths and fully support you. i just don't think making a huge deal about it all over his myspace was necessary. and s14wannabe, did you send that letter to SS? i wonder if they'd publish that.

At first I was upset at the small 31-letter capture he wrote. What made me and I’m sure many more people upset is his initial response back. He added gasoline to the flame by saying “Fuck the Alamo!” and then doesn’t have enough intestinal fortitude to leave up his response. Jesse’s right, as a writer he should know by now the power of his writing. Now he knows the power of our writing. So now his little capture is a joke… hmm… I wonder if his first response was a joke too. Well this isn’t a joke: Don’t mess with Texas.

PS: He still dodges all my points and continues to try to give a history lesson. Go figure.

[jesse walker]

A BRIEF TIME LINE OF TEXAS FOR THOSE WHO CARE.


• About 10,000 B.C. — The first Indians arrived in Texas. These ancient peoples are called Paleo-Indians. They hunted mammoths and giant bison and other animals that later became extinct.
• 6,000 B.C. - 500 A.D. — Archeologists call this time in Texas the Archaic Period. During this period, Indians painted beautiful murals depicting human scenes and religious ceremonies on cave walls in dry areas of West Texas.
• 500 - 1500 — Prior to the arrival of the first European explorers, called the Late Prehistoric Period, agricultural Indians domesticated some of our principal crops, including; cotton, corn, beans, squash, tomatoes and potatoes. Burial and temple mounds of these early farmers can be found in the piney woods of East Texas.
• Mid 1519 — Sailing from Jamaica, Alonso Alvarez de Pineda, a Spanish explorer, was the first known European to map the coastline of Texas.
• 1528 - 1534 — Cabeza de Vaca, shipwrecked on what is now believed to be Galveston Island, traded in the area for about six years. He later explored the interior of Texas on his way to Mexico.
• 1540 - 1542 — Francisco Vasquez de Coronado, searching for the fabled "Seven Cities of Cibola", led an expedition into what is now the South-Western United States and across northern Texas. Though he found no cities of gold, he strengthened Spain's claim on Texas.
• 1682 — Corpus Christi de la Isleta, established near El Paso, was the first Spanish mission and pueblo in Texas.
• 18 February 1685 — Robert Cavelier, Sieur de LaSalle established Fort St. Louis at Matagorda Bay thereby forming the basis for the claim to Texas by France. His own men murdered him two years later. By 1690 Indians and disease had destroyed the small French force. In 1995, a team of archeologists discovered the "Belle", one of La Salle's frigates, in the murky waters of Matagorda Bay. In 1996, the exact location of Fort St. Louis was pinpointed near Victoria.
• 22 April 1689 — Alonso de Leon, a Mexican explorer, reached Fort St. Louis, finding it abandoned, during an expedition in an attempt reestablish a Spanish presence in Texas.
• 1690 — Alarmed by the French presence in Texas and the French settlements in the Louisiana area, the Spaniards established Mission San Francisco de los Tejas, the first East Texas mission.
• 1716 - 1789 — Spain established Catholic missions in Texas throughout the 18th century, the most notable being "Mission San Antonio de Valero" (the Alamo). Along with the missions, the towns of San Antonio, Goliad and Nacogdoches were established.
• 8 August 1812 — The Gutierrez-Magee Expedition, comprised of about 130 men, crossed the Sabine River from Louisiana in a rebellious movement against Spanish rule in Texas.
• 1817 - 1820 — Jean Laffite occupied Galveston Island, using it as a base for his smuggling operation.
• 1821 — The year Mexico gained independence from Spain, Stephen F. Austin received permission from the Mexican government to settle a colony in southeast Texas.
• 3 January 1823 — Stephen F. Austin began a colony of 300 families in the Brazos River region, now known as the "Old Three Hundred". Although Anglo Americans were already living in Texas at the time, Austin's settlement was the official beginning of Anglo American colonization in Texas.
• Mid - 1824 — The Constitution of 1824, giving Mexico a republican form of government, failed to define the rights of the states within the Mexican Republic… this included Texas.
• 15 April 1825 — Empresario Hayden Edwards contracted with the Republic of Mexico to settle 800 families in East Texas.
• 1826 - 1827 — "Fredonion Rebellion" &bnsp; The Mexican government canceled Hayden Edwards contract to settle 800 families in East Texas because he was forcing settlers, both Anglo and native Hispanics, to move or pay him for their land. In response to the cancellation, Edwards made an alliance with Cherokee Indians and declared the "Republic of Fredonia" independant of Mexico.
• 6 April 1830 — Relations between Texians and the Mexican Government reached an all time low when Mexico forbade settlers from the United States from migrating to Texas.
• 26 June 1832 — The Battle of Velasco resulted in the first casualties, causing the relations between Texas and Mexico to further diminish. After several days of fighting, the Mexicans, led by Domingo de Ugartechea, were forced to surrender due to lack of ammunition.
• 1832 - 1833 — Texas' "Convention of 1832" and "Convention of 1833" were triggered by growing dissatisfaction with the policies of the government in Mexico City.
• Early in 1835 — Stephen F. Austin announced that he was convinced that war with Mexico was necessary to secure freedom. Growing tension in Texas was the result of cultural, political and religious differences between the Anglo Americans and the Mexican government. In response to the unrest, Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, the president of Mexico, reinforced Mexican troops in Texas.
• 2 October 1835 — Texians repulsed a Mexican Cavalry detachment, that was attempting to retrieve a cannon, at the town of Gonzales, thus beginning the revolution. The "Battle of Gonzales" gave rise to the famous flag bearing the words "Come and Take It."
• 9 October 1835 — The "Goliad Campaign of 1835" ended when George Collingsworth, Ben Milam, and 49 other Texians stormed a small detachment of Mexican defenders and the Presidio at Goliad.
• 17 October 1835 — Although a small group had been formed in 1823 by Stephen F. Austin, the Texas Rangers were not formally organized until 17 October 1835.
• 28 October 1835 — At the "Battle of Concepcion", near San Antonio, James (Jim) Bowie, James Fannin, and 90 other Texians defeated 450 Mexicans.
• Late October 1835 — The "New Orleans Greys", two companies of American and European emigrant volunteers, left New Orleans bound for Texas to aid the Texian forces.
• November 1835 — When Texians sent out an appeal for help against the Mexican army, the "Georgia Battalion" was organized in that state, drawing men from small towns and large.
• 3 November 1835 — Meeting to consider options for more autonomous rule for Texas, the "Consultation" drafted a document known as the "Organic Law", outlining the organization and functions of a new "Provisional Government".
• 8 November 1835 — Near San Antonio, the "Grass Fight" was won by the Texians, led by James (Jim) Bowie and Ed Burleson. Instead of silver, the Texians gained a worthless bounty of grass, hence the name "Grass Fight".
• 11 December 1835 — Following the "Siege of Bexar", Mexicans, led by General Cos, surrendered San Antonio to the Texians. During the extended siege, Ben Milam was killed.
• 20 December 1835 — In Goliad, a meeting of 92 men, both members of Capt. Phillip Dimmit's troops and local citizens, produced a document known as the "Goliad Declaration of Independence". This was the first and most formal regional declaration, sometimes referred to as the "Mecklenburg of Texas".
• 2 March 1836 — The members of the "Convention of 1836" signed the Texas "Declaration of Independence" at Washington-on-the-Brazos. For the newly created Republic of Texas, an "ad interim" government was formed.
• 6 March 1836 — About 190 Texians, led by Col. William B. travis, were overwhelmed by the Mexican army (numbering 4,000 to 5,000 during its final charge) in San Antonio after a two-week siege at the "Battle of the Alamo" resulting in the deaths of all of its defenders , thus beginning the "Runaway Scrape". Among those killed were David Crockett, Jim Bowie and William B. travis.
• 10 March 1836 — The "Runaway Scrape". In a retreat Eastward to avoid the invading Mexican army, Gen. Sam Houston and his men abandoned Gonzales.
• 16 March 1836 — David G. Burnet, the first President of the Republic of Texas, begins his short term ending on October 22nd of the same year.
• 27 March 1836 — By the order of Santa Anna, the Mexicans executed James Fannin and nearly 400 Texians at the "Goliad Massacre".
• 21 April 1836 — Led by Gen. Sam Houston, independence was won in one of the most decisive battles in history when Texians defeated the Mexican forces of Santa Anna at the "Battle of San Jacinto". Santa Anna's entire force of 1,600 men was killed or captured by Houston's army of 800 Texians... only nine Texians died.

[jesse walker]

• May 14, 1836 — The treaty of Velasco was signed by Republic of Texas Officials and General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, President General in Chief of the Mexican Army .
• October 1836 — The first Congress of the Republic of Texas convened at Columbia (now West Columbia).
• October 22, 1836 — Sam Houston, a native of Virginia, served his first of two separate terms as President of the Republic of Texas from October 22, 1836 to December 10, 1838. He served his second term from December 13, 1841 to December 9, 1844. Houston was also governor of the "defacto" state of Texas from 1859 to 1861.
• 27 December 1836 — Stephen F. Austin, known as the "Father of Texas," died after serving two months as secretary of state for the new Republic.
• 1836 — Five sites served as temporary capitals of Texas (Washington-on-the-Brazos, Harrisburg, Galveston, Velasco and Columbia) before Sam Houston moved the capital to Houston in 1837.
• December 10, 1838 — Known as the "Father of Education in Texas", Mirabeau B. Lamar served as third President of the Republic of Texas, from December 10, 1838 to December 13, 1841.
• November 1839 — The Texas Congress met for the first time in Austin, the frontier site selected for the capital of the Republic.
• 11 August 1840 — Near present-day Lockhart, the "Battle of Plum Creek" ended the boldest and most penetrating Comanche challenge to the Texas Republic.
• June 1841 — The "Texian Santa Fe Expedition" set out for New Mexico. They marched 2000 miles to prison in Mexico City after Mexican forces intercepted them near Sante Fe.
• December 13, 1841 — Sam Houston served a second of two separate terms as the President of the Republic of Texas from December 13, 1841 to December 9, 1844. His first term was from October 22, 1836 to December 10, 1838. He was also governor of the "defacto" state of Texas from 1859 to 1861.
• 5 March 1842 — A Mexican force of over 500 men, led by Rafael Vasquez, invaded Texas for the first time since the revolution. They soon headed back to the Rio Grande after briefly occupying San Antonio.
• 11 September 1842 — San Antonio was captured again by 1400 Mexican troops, led by Adrian Woll. They retreated, as before, but with prisoners this time.
• Fall 1842 — Alexander Somervell was authorized to lead a retaliatory raid into Mexico by Sam Houston. The "Somervell Expedition" dissolved after briefly taking the border towns of Laredo and Guerro.
• 20 December 1842 — Approximately 300 members of the Somervell force set out to continue raids into Mexico. The ill-fated "Mier Expedition" surrendered at the Mexican town of Mier, ten days and 20 miles later.
• 29 December 1842 — Officials arrived in Austin to remove the records of the Republic of Texas to the city of Houston under orders of Sam Houston, beginning the, bloodless, "Archives War".
• 25 March 1843 — Resulting from the "Mier Expedition", one of several raids by the Texians into Mexico, 17 Texians were executed in what became known as the "Black Bean Episode".
• 27 May 1843 — Expecting to capture Mexican wagons crossing territory claimed by Texas, the "Snively Expedition" reached the Santa Fe trail. The campaign stalled when U.S. troops intervened.
• December 9, 1844 — Anson Jones served as fourth President of the Republic of Texas, from December 9, 1844 to February 19, 1846.
• 29 December 1845 — U. S. President James Polk followed through on a campaign platform promising to annex Texas, and signed legislation "illegally" making Texas the 28th state of the United States.
• 1846 — James Pinckney Henderson was the first governor of the "defacto" state of Texas from 1846 to 1847.
• 25 April 1846 — As a result of disputes over claims to Texas boundaries, the "Mexican-American War" began. The outcome of the war settled Texas' southern boundary at the Rio Grande River.
• 1850 — The "defacto" state of Texas' 1850 census recorded 213,000 people in Texas. In 1900, there were three million people, and by 1990, the population was more than 16 million.
• 25 November 1850 — In exchange for a pledge of $10,000,000 from the United States, in a plan to settle boundary disputes and pay her public debt, about one-third of Texas territory was relinquished in the "Compromise of 1850".
• May 1852 — During the 1850's, symbolizing a period of relative prosperity in Texas, the first "Lone Star State Fair" was held in Corpus Christi.
• 29 April 1856 — A shipment of 32 camels arrived at the port of Indianola, backed by the US military. The animals were used to transport supplies over the "Great American Desert" in the resulting "Texas Camel Experiment".
• 1856 — Built in 1856, the "defacto" state of Texas' Governor's Mansion is the oldest remaining public building in downtown Austin.
• 1859 - 1861 — Sam Houston served as governor of the "defacto" state of Texas.
• 1 February 1861 — Following a 171 to 6 vote by the "Secession Convention", Texas seceded from the Federal Union. Governor Sam Houston was one of the minority voters who opposed secession.
• 22 October 1861 — Units of the newly formed brigade of General H. H. Sibley marched westward from San Antonio to claim New Mexico and the American southwest for the Confederacy.
• 1 January 1863 — The "Battle of Galveston" restored Galveston Island, Texas' most important seaport, to Texas control for remainder of Civil War after several weeks of Federal occupation.
• 13 May 1865 — The "Battle of Palmito Ranch", in far south Texas, was fought more than a month after Gen. Robert E. Lee, of the Confederacy, surrendered at Appomattox, Virginia.
• 1866 — The abundance of longhorn cattle in Texas, and the return of soldiers to a poor economy, marked the beginning of the era of Texas trail drives to northern markets.
• 30 March 1870 — The United States Congress, as they claim, “readmitted” Texas into the Union.
• 17 January 1874 — E. J. Davis relinquished the "defacto" governor's office and the Coke-Davis Dispute ended peacefully in Austin. Richard Coke began a democratic party dynasty that continued, unbroken in Texas, for over 100 years.
• 4 October 1876 — The opening of the Texas A & M College marked the state's first venture into public higher education. Tuition totaled a whopping $10 per semester.
• 15 September 1883 — The University of Texas opened its doors in Austin. The first courses were offered in the Academic and Law Departments.
• 16 May 1888 — The dedication of the present “defacto” state capitol in Austin ended seven years of planning. The building was funded with 3,000,000 acres of land in north Texas. Built of Texas pink granite, the Capitol stands seven feet taller than U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.
• 20 January 1891 — Based on a campaign platform calling for the regulation of railroads and big business, James Hogg took office as the first native-born governor of the “defacto” state of Texas.
• 10 January 1901 — The discovery of oil at the "Spindletop" oil field near Beaumont launched Texas into a century of oil exploration, electronics, and manned space travel.
• 1918 — Dr. Annie Webb Blanton (1870-1945) became the first woman elected to a statewide office of the "defacto" state of Texas when she won the race for State Superintendent of Public Instruction.
• 1920's — "Blind" Lemon Jefferson (1897-1929), born in Freestone County, rose from street beggar to one of the great blues musicians of the 1920s. Scott Joplin (1869-1917), from Bowie County, is known as the "King of Ragtime Music."
• 1925 — Miriam A. "Ma" Ferguson was elected Governor of the "defacto" state of Texas. She was the second woman to serve as governor in the United States, but because of the date of elections in Texas, she was technically the first woman elected to that office. She served from 1925 to 1927 and again from 1933 to 1935."
• 1926 — Margie Neal (1875-1971), of Carthage, was elected the "defacto" state of Texas' first woman senator.
• 1940's — There were more than 70 World War II prisoner-of-war camps in Texas, primarily housing German soldiers from the famed Afrika Korps. The Texas camps also held Italian and Japanese prisoners.

[al]

Good God, Jesse Walker ... incredible Texas history

im filipino...you have a problem with me?

Only if you eat balut and dinuguan. Joke lang, boss, wag kang magalit. Lub na lub kita

[conecrazy]

im filipino...you have a problem with me?

tisk tisk so sensitive

[jesse walker]

tisk tisk so sensitive
just like us Texans haha

[sci motorsports]

jesse.....that time line isn't brief.....brief means short, in relation to time is is shorter to read than to experience all that history, however i have adhd and have problems concentrating...i'm thirsty i'll finish this later

[Kyo]

Well the only real way to voice your opinion with a magazine is by hitting them where it hurts. This was brought up regarding Super Street and companies who advertise in it.

Well luckily I still had a business card handy for Conti/General Tires Director of Marketing. Just gave her a call and spoke to her secretary. Just happens to be that 2 senior marketing folks from Germany are currently attending meetings in Uvalde and are out to lunch. I'll update you guys when I hear something. I know the secretary was pretty upset about the situation and I'm sure Conti/General wouldn't want to be associated with a publication with such biased views.

Guru
Thats cool. And those comments Roel published were completely uncalled for, what kind of idiot puts an article to get people to hate him for his negative comments(let alone his complete disregard for what the alamo actually stands for). This boy needs to go back to school.

Sure, he has his own opinion and is entitled to it. It seems as if he really doesn't know anything about the Alamo, otherwise i'm positive that this guy, Roel, would not have taken such a picture and disrespect our country (or a part of it really :hs: ). This alone doesn't speak very highly of him in his profession, what a fool. (Yes, Uvalde is just another word For S.A. :kekegay: )

Texas/Uvalde/S.A./whatever/Alamo is boring? Sure, why not...its a valid opinion. But he sure as hell did not have to go to extremes. Although boring, he had nothing constructive to comment on the Alamo but some high-schoolish comment. He could've posted a picture of a cow and put his thumb down. :dunno:

I don't speak as a proud Texan but as a proud citizen(I'm from cali) of the U.S.A. This guy is an idiot. This has now been established.

I do not have a distaste for SS but its editor. For good measure though, i will have my father unsubscribe to SS and give him a damn good reason to. :)
Just one less customer. Ok, maybe 5.

[DrKilljoY]

Contact info for Primedia:

PRIMEDIA Inc.
745 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10151
Telephone: (212) 745-0100
Fax: (212) 745-0121
E-mail: information@primedia.com


Contact info for Super Street Magazine:

Super Street Magazine
6420 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90048
Telephone: (323) 782-2000
Fax: (323) 782-2263

Publisher: Howard Lim
Editor: John Naderi

[94CapriceSS]

i signed up to myspace just to tell that bitch off


You should kick his ass for that single reason alone. :rofl:

[JDMFIEND]

I emailed Primedia hopefully Roel is repremanded for his actions.
-Thomas

[bigpimpin13210]

no more super street

[jesse walker]

I emailed Primedia hopefully Roel is repremanded for his actions.
-Thomas
Thomas, I also emailed them at their public relations office. I sent them a lengthy email.
I also emailed walmart(they werent happy to see how many people are offended, and have their ethics office looking into it)

[SpydiR]

Thomas, I also emailed them at their public relations office. I sent them a lengthy email.
I also emailed walmart(they werent happy to see how many people are offended, and have their ethics office looking into it)

I also sent an email to both 'nads' and primedia. I have not received a response yet lol

[raemi]

lowest of the united states?

[xjhillx]

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1334173


damn these fucks at honda-tech.... they wouldn't know anything if it was right in their face. Oh well, its not their fault that Texas...."unoffically"... is the lowest out of all the States.... so the results say (school wise, WEIGHT wise, SMART wise)... lol. But its funny how more people from Texas acheive at least 3 times as much as anyone belonging to another State (comparison wise)... Doesn't matter anyway... it's all a bunch of rambling, state your comments.. no one is going to win this.. I say lets go BOYCOTT in Ft.Worth..lol!!! Don't forget your fire arms... oh wait.. this is just an import/car magazine thing.... SHEEZ!!! what was i thinking.

[Dorian]

Ok I think some of us are losing the point. Political views don't belong in a car magazine. Period.

[blacktopferio]

wow... didn't think that many in houston would get offended for something that was said about the alamo...

well being a fellow san antonian and super street reader... suck it up... if you all reas super street and not look at picutres you would all know that Roel is like that... he even talk shit about a preacher when we was doing an artilce on the preachers 510... just forget about it on and move on with your lives... super street was the magazine that put the import scene on paper and succeded...

[Dorian]

wow... didn't think that many in houston would get offended for something that was said about the alamo...

well being a fellow san antonian and super street reader... suck it up... if you all reas super street and not look at picutres you would all know that Roel is like that... he even talk shit about a preacher when we was doing an artilce on the preachers 510... just forget about it on and move on with your lives... super street was the magazine that put the import scene on paper and succeded...
Sorry... not going to happen. Read :

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218526

and here

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217767

[jesse walker]

super street was the magazine that put the import scene on paper and succeded...
it was? i thought Option,carboy,turbo,Af,etc were. but like what has been said, If its not offensive to you, so be it. But dont knock us for taking a stand.Roels comments had no business in the mag and in his response to Dorian he stated his motives for writing what he wrote, that makes it even worse.

[phast]

wow... didn't think that many in houston would get offended for something that was said about the alamo...

well being a fellow san antonian and super street reader... suck it up... if you all reas super street and not look at picutres you would all know that Roel is like that... he even talk shit about a preacher when we was doing an artilce on the preachers 510... just forget about it on and move on with your lives... super street was the magazine that put the import scene on paper and succeded...
It's not just what he said about the Alamo, it's what transpired when he responded to Dorian. Plus what was said in the response about Texas and what he thought the Alamo stood for. He may have gotten away with stuff in the past but this time it's different.

[jesse walker]

Qoute from Roel "The Mexican gov't was in the process of enforcing this belief to the Texans, who made their living by agriculture and therefore needed slaves. Of course, the Texans wouldn't possibly allow their income to be taken so they fought back. This is one of the reasons why the battle came about, and why I wrote that piece in Super Street"
if thats not enough reason then what is?

[jdwme]

Well, consdering he is totally wrong about why the war was fought, that gives us another reason to be pissed of at him

[mikesrex]

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218815

meet planning thread

[DrKilljoY]

we need a new subsection just for Super-Street threads. :)

[jesse walker]

this must only be offensive to texans.
It should be offensive to anyone. he could have very well said this about the 9/11 memorial,vietnam memorial,korean war mem.,pearl harbour. who knows what else. but the point is that it could have been anywhere.

[DrKilljoY]

Im not originally from texas and i think the way we took texas from mexico was a sham, so it dosent offend me in the least. That and i support dudes right to give the thumbs down the the alamo.


I think i can hear the cries of G.T.F.O. in the background.

[ScooterTrash]

Im not originally from texas and i think the way we took texas from mexico was a sham, so it dosent offend me in the least. That and i support dudes right to give the thumbs down the the alamo.
your a pinko commie

[mikesrex]

if you guys are serious about organizing some sort of meet, here is the thread I made to do so.

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218815

[EXccord]

hey guys...i know i NEVER post up here on hi...wish i would...but i had to post about this.

My name is stephen and i currently reside in san antonio...when i read this, it just made me realize how ignorant and how pathetic these new staff members are. If you sit down adn think about it...this state has more meaning to hte united states than that huge ass island we call california. The only thing cali is good for is their bitches and their beaches...otherwise its fucking pathetic...other than their import scene...but to breach lines such as this and say something so idiotic, is well...completely retarded. Honestly, how fucking stupid do you gotta be to degrade a state and a texas symbol? Well, super street..there goes maybe a quarter of your subscribers...kudos :rock:

[Dorian]

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