Automatic to Manual?

[txhyperflight32]

I just bought a 96 talon tsi AWD, and it looks badass. but i have a problem its automatic. every car i get is manual but for my price i couldnt find a manual turbo. i want to change it out for a manual. does anybody know where i could get it done and how much?? also could i sell my automatic its really new!!? hope some1 can help me!!

[DA_LsVtAk]

I just bought a 96 talon tsi AWD, and it looks badass. but i have a problem its automatic. every car i get is manual but for my price i couldnt find a manual turbo. i want to change it out for a manual. does anybody know where i could get it done and how much?? also could i sell my automatic its really new!!? hope some1 can help me!!



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[crx-si]

auto to manual conversion parts list: (recommend find this yourself @ local junk yards to save some money, especially if u buy everything from them)

manual awd tranny of course 95 awd model up ($600 if u lucky)
flywheel ($30) resurface (add $30)
aftermarket clutch if u plan to mod the car later ($400)
shift linkage from 95 up ($40)
clutch/brake pedal assembly (manual), gas pedal ($50)
clutch master cylinder + hard line to slave cylinder ($30)
slave cylinder (recommend new) ($25)
top awd manual trans mount + bracket. ($50)
manual axles ($120 rebuilt pair)
manual ecu (TURBO AWD ONLY, MAKE SURE) ($150)
I think the transfer case is the same manual/auto

find a competent shop that can do the trans swap, drop steering columm to install the pedals, mount the clutch master cyl., run the hard line along the firewall, bleed the clutch, install the manual ecu, and most important of all,
BYPASS AUTO SHIFT LOCK SWITCH SINCE U CAN ONLY TAKE KEY OUT OF IGNITION IN PARK OR NEUTRAL ONLY WITH AUTO TRANNY, but now u have a manual tranny.

that's all I can think of for now

[dsmspyderboy]

This could help you it sure helped me. :thumb:

PART NAME (PNC) REPLACEMENT PART # PRICE Quantity TOTAL

Transmission Assymbly Core MD972017 $1,437.50 1 $1,437.50
Flywheel (JUN Chromoly) EXM1925 $425.00 1 $425.00
Flywheel to Crankshaft Bolts, 12x21.2 Flange 03797 MD302074 $1.63 7 $11.41
Clutch Release Bearing 20430 MD749998 $16.79 1 $16.79
Clutch Assymbly (ACT 2600lb Xtreme) EXM0514 $350.00 1 $350.00
Slave Cylinder 20400A MD749823 $22.94 1 $22.94
Clutch Release Cylinder Tube 20464 MD746084 $5.33 1 $5.33
Bolt for Clutch Release Cylinder Tube 20961YE MF241252 $0.50 1 $0.50
Clutch Fluid Chamber 20428 MD749915 $29.88 1 $29.88
Clutch Release Cylinder Tube 20464P MD745644 $3.88 1 $3.88
Clutch Hose Clip 20957 MA431825 $0.79 2 $1.58
Clutch Hose 20425 MR151524 $8.09 1 $8.09
Clutch Hose Clip 20957 MA431825 $0.79 1 $0.79
Clutch Pipe 20157 MB910583 $11.00 1 $11.00
Clutch Pipe Mounting Clip 20194B MB864569 $0.88 2 $1.76
Clutch Pipe Mounting Clip's Bolt 20197C MF243649 $0.50 3 $1.50
Clutch Pipe Mounting Clip 20194B MB864569 $0.88 1 $0.88
+Master Cylinder 20100A MB910562 $62.64 1 $62.64
+Fluid Resovoir 1
- Hose Clip 20194C MB058362 $0.50 2 $1.00
- Hose 20025 MB082024 $4.54 1 $4.54
- Hose Clip 20194C MB058362 $0.50 1 $0.50
- Resovoir Cap 20015 MB555135 $4.23 1 $4.23
- Fluid Container 20036 MB911648 $2.33 1 $2.33
- Mounting Bracket 20007 MB910567 $3.27 1 $3.27
- Bracket Bolts 20197 NO DATA 2
- Container Holder Adj. Screm 20197B MF243623 $0.79 1 $0.79
+FireWall Side (Pedal Connections)
- Master Cylinder Mounting Bolt 20186 MS440503 $0.23 2 $0.46
- Clevis Pin 20193C MF473492 $0.50 1 $0.50
- Spacer 20178 MF451105 $0.23 1 $0.23
- Washer 20920 MF520006 $0.23 1 $0.23
- Clip Pin 20193B MF472042 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Firewall Gasket? 20144 MB555016 $0.68 1 $0.68
Clutch Pedal Assymbly (Pull From JunkYard) 1
Brake Pedal Assymbly (Pull From JunkYard) 1
Shifter Assymbly (Pull from JunkYard) 1
+ Gearshift Cable 24906 MD770677 $55.45 1 $55.45
- Select Cable Spacer Tranny Side 24588B MF450154 $0.23 4 $0.92
- Select Cable Lock Clip Tranny Side 24579B MF472040 $0.06 4 $0.24
- Select Cable Mounting Clip Tranny Side 24589B MB367526 $2.04 2 $4.08
- Shift Cable Spacer Tranny Side 24588B MF450154 $0.23 1 $0.23
- Shift Cable Lock Clip Tranny Side 24579B MF472040 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Shift Cable Mounting Clip Tranny Side 24589B MB367526 $2.04 1 $2.04
- Gearshift Cable Firewall Grommet Mounting Nuts 24582B MS440503 $0.23 4 $0.92
- Shift Cable to Shifter Assymbly Spacer 24594E MB949743 $0.99 1 $0.99
- Shift Cable to Shifter Assymbly Lock Clip 24579B MF472040 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Shift Cable Mounting Clip Shifter Assymbly Side 24589C MB307554 $1.17 2 $2.34
- Select Cable to Shifter Assymbly Lock Clip 24579B MF472040 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Select Cable Mounting Clip Shifter Assymbly Side 24589C MB307554 $1.17 1 $1.17
Center Console (Pull From JunkYard) 1
Black Shift Boot 24021 MR330546 $18.74 1 $18.74
DSM club Prices ------------------------------------ TOTAL $2,497.59

[adam gs-r]

Wow, great write-up. This should be stickied...


But I dont think 2.5 thousand dollars is worth a manual unless your AT is already seriously screwed. :eh:

[Black Majik]

This could help you it sure helped me. :thumb:

PART NAME (PNC) REPLACEMENT PART # PRICE Quantity TOTAL

Transmission Assymbly Core MD972017 $1,437.50 1 $1,437.50
Flywheel (JUN Chromoly) EXM1925 $425.00 1 $425.00
Flywheel to Crankshaft Bolts, 12x21.2 Flange 03797 MD302074 $1.63 7 $11.41
Clutch Release Bearing 20430 MD749998 $16.79 1 $16.79
Clutch Assymbly (ACT 2600lb Xtreme) EXM0514 $350.00 1 $350.00
Slave Cylinder 20400A MD749823 $22.94 1 $22.94
Clutch Release Cylinder Tube 20464 MD746084 $5.33 1 $5.33
Bolt for Clutch Release Cylinder Tube 20961YE MF241252 $0.50 1 $0.50
Clutch Fluid Chamber 20428 MD749915 $29.88 1 $29.88
Clutch Release Cylinder Tube 20464P MD745644 $3.88 1 $3.88
Clutch Hose Clip 20957 MA431825 $0.79 2 $1.58
Clutch Hose 20425 MR151524 $8.09 1 $8.09
Clutch Hose Clip 20957 MA431825 $0.79 1 $0.79
Clutch Pipe 20157 MB910583 $11.00 1 $11.00
Clutch Pipe Mounting Clip 20194B MB864569 $0.88 2 $1.76
Clutch Pipe Mounting Clip's Bolt 20197C MF243649 $0.50 3 $1.50
Clutch Pipe Mounting Clip 20194B MB864569 $0.88 1 $0.88
+Master Cylinder 20100A MB910562 $62.64 1 $62.64
+Fluid Resovoir 1
- Hose Clip 20194C MB058362 $0.50 2 $1.00
- Hose 20025 MB082024 $4.54 1 $4.54
- Hose Clip 20194C MB058362 $0.50 1 $0.50
- Resovoir Cap 20015 MB555135 $4.23 1 $4.23
- Fluid Container 20036 MB911648 $2.33 1 $2.33
- Mounting Bracket 20007 MB910567 $3.27 1 $3.27
- Bracket Bolts 20197 NO DATA 2
- Container Holder Adj. Screm 20197B MF243623 $0.79 1 $0.79
+FireWall Side (Pedal Connections)
- Master Cylinder Mounting Bolt 20186 MS440503 $0.23 2 $0.46
- Clevis Pin 20193C MF473492 $0.50 1 $0.50
- Spacer 20178 MF451105 $0.23 1 $0.23
- Washer 20920 MF520006 $0.23 1 $0.23
- Clip Pin 20193B MF472042 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Firewall Gasket? 20144 MB555016 $0.68 1 $0.68
Clutch Pedal Assymbly (Pull From JunkYard) 1
Brake Pedal Assymbly (Pull From JunkYard) 1
Shifter Assymbly (Pull from JunkYard) 1
+ Gearshift Cable 24906 MD770677 $55.45 1 $55.45
- Select Cable Spacer Tranny Side 24588B MF450154 $0.23 4 $0.92
- Select Cable Lock Clip Tranny Side 24579B MF472040 $0.06 4 $0.24
- Select Cable Mounting Clip Tranny Side 24589B MB367526 $2.04 2 $4.08
- Shift Cable Spacer Tranny Side 24588B MF450154 $0.23 1 $0.23
- Shift Cable Lock Clip Tranny Side 24579B MF472040 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Shift Cable Mounting Clip Tranny Side 24589B MB367526 $2.04 1 $2.04
- Gearshift Cable Firewall Grommet Mounting Nuts 24582B MS440503 $0.23 4 $0.92
- Shift Cable to Shifter Assymbly Spacer 24594E MB949743 $0.99 1 $0.99
- Shift Cable to Shifter Assymbly Lock Clip 24579B MF472040 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Shift Cable Mounting Clip Shifter Assymbly Side 24589C MB307554 $1.17 2 $2.34
- Select Cable to Shifter Assymbly Lock Clip 24579B MF472040 $0.06 1 $0.06
- Select Cable Mounting Clip Shifter Assymbly Side 24589C MB307554 $1.17 1 $1.17
Center Console (Pull From JunkYard) 1
Black Shift Boot 24021 MR330546 $18.74 1 $18.74
DSM club Prices ------------------------------------ TOTAL $2,497.59


you got that from me :roflmao:

[Black Majik]

auto to manual conversion parts list: (recommend find this yourself @ local junk yards to save some money, especially if u buy everything from them)

manual awd tranny of course 95 awd model up ($600 if u lucky)
flywheel ($30) resurface (add $30)
aftermarket clutch if u plan to mod the car later ($400)
shift linkage from 95 up ($40)
clutch/brake pedal assembly (manual), gas pedal ($50)
clutch master cylinder + hard line to slave cylinder ($30)
slave cylinder (recommend new) ($25)
top awd manual trans mount + bracket. ($50)
manual axles ($120 rebuilt pair)
manual ecu (TURBO AWD ONLY, MAKE SURE) ($150)
I think the transfer case is the same manual/auto

find a competent shop that can do the trans swap, drop steering columm to install the pedals, mount the clutch master cyl., run the hard line along the firewall, bleed the clutch, install the manual ecu, and most important of all,
BYPASS AUTO SHIFT LOCK SWITCH SINCE U CAN ONLY TAKE KEY OUT OF IGNITION IN PARK OR NEUTRAL ONLY WITH AUTO TRANNY, but now u have a manual tranny.

that's all I can think of for now
you don't need to drop the steering column to do this.. The link below your post has the full line of parts with part #'s Don't try the hard line for the clutch line, just get a S/S braided line made for the whole line and it will make your life a lot easier.

[adam gs-r]

you don't need to drop the steering column to do this.. The link below your post has the full line of parts with part #'s Don't try the hard line for the clutch line, just get a S/S braided line made for the whole line and it will make your life a lot easier.
Im sure it mostly depends on the car you're trying to do the conversion for. This is still a nice outline though for what's needed. Obviously youd want to take it to a shop for a more precise measurement of what's needed (unless youre doing it yourself).

[Black Majik]

Im sure it mostly depends on the car you're trying to do the conversion for. This is still a nice outline though for what's needed. Obviously youd want to take it to a shop for a more precise measurement of what's needed (unless youre doing it yourself).
um, we're talking about a 2G DSM so everything I said is true.

[adam gs-r]

um, we're talking about a 2G DSM so everything I said is true.
Oh, good list then. :thumb:

[dsmspyderboy]

you got that from me :roflmao:
Yeah i know thanks like i said it helped me alot.

[Black Majik]

Yeah i know thanks like i said it helped me alot.
NP.....any time........just giving you a hard time..lol :roflmao:

[illeagletsi]

$2500 + about a thousand $'s labor. It will be cheaper if you can find a good deal on a tranny and parts. We specialize in dsm's. I think I can say this since im answering a question. But since no one else is stepping up i guess I will.

[Black Majik]

Yes, the parts would come down a lot if you could find a cheap used tranny, and use a stock flywheel, there is a lot of fat we can trim off the parts list.

[accordvtec]

just build a really fast auto its been done

[DC]

just build a really fast auto its been done
It's not what this guy wants. A manual is still better, even though you could upgrade the torque converter on the auto.

[AZN_WithA_Cress]

you have a talon right...go to a junkyard and find a 96 eclipse and get that tranny...if manual and if it would fit...cuz idk sheet about talons...it might be like honda and acura...

[eternalsun]

you have a talon right...go to a junkyard and find a 96 eclipse and get that tranny...if manual and if it would fit...cuz idk sheet about talons...it might be like honda and acura...
Except he is dealing with an AWD so any old trans wont work in this case.

[txhyperflight32]

man that sucks...well i dont want to get a freakin muffler and have it sound all shity u know? thats the main reason. what would make it sound better? i tried manual shifting in my del sol and that made the tranny go out in like 4 months lol. gimme some ideas of what to do with my automatic??