FAST fuel injection ecu

[tmajik86]

I was given the offer to buy a FAST fuel injection ecu and hardware/harness for my future car. I plan on spraying the holy hell outta this car and i like to spray a 2 or 3 stage system. Do yall think its worth the 3g's i can get it for. yay or nay ?

[235TURBO]

whats your next car? and what are you gonna do to build this car to handle up to three stages of juice? the fast seems high for whats stated. my car can get FAST for around 2100. if i buy the labtop.

[orange02SS]

That price seems kinda high. Is it used? What does it come with?

[235TURBO]

oh also....the whole three stage thing for juice in my opinon might be a little...overkill for anything to be driven on the street. typical stage shots increase in incremets between shots of at least 150; ie 150 fogger, second stage 200 direct port ect.



a single shot with some sort of soft engagement could be a better idea for street...nx sells somthing to that effect

[dak4.7]

Well to begin with, that's a horrible price for the system, unless it comes with a (pretty nice) laptop. And maybe that's installation included (installation is a bit involved). The dodge vendors are selling it for 1900 for the standalone system, and will wire it into your harness for you for another 250...

With that said, I'm gonna agree with this 235TURBO fellow, not sure how big a shot you wanna spray on the car, but the fact that you're asking "is a stand alone system worth it?" means you PROBABLY aren't building a full on race car, and a triple stage nitrous setup most probably is serious overkill for you. It sounds like something more along the lines of a regular fogger system just spraying a big shot would be more up your alley, maybe with something like the jacobs mastermind on it if you're trying to keep it hitting soft off the line for traction purposes.

But, those are just my opinions. To answer your question, yes, FAST is most definitely worth it... not at the price you listed it's not, but the system itself is nice.

[tmajik86]

Alright the project vehicle in mind is a chevy cobalt. The kit comes with the ecu control module and harness, with a dell labtop. The reason i want to run stages is because i cant really afford to build a badass motor so basically im gonna try to have setup the same way you would with a nitrous controller. Kinda slowly sprayin more and more, hopefully the motor can take it. Im still debating gettin it or gettin a controller. my goal is to get into the high 13's, yall still think the kit is worth it ?

Oh ya, the kit is brand spanking new. still in the box, some guy at work bought it but now he changed his mind on it, so hes sellin it to me.

[SecretAgent]

hmm...3g's to blow your motor....not worth it. and high 13's??? aren't they supposed to run low 14's stock????? you need to learn a little more about cars before you start planning your next project.

[tmajik86]

hmm...3g's to blow your motor....not worth it. and high 13's??? aren't they supposed to run low 14's stock????? you need to learn a little more about cars before you start planning your next project.


LoL, im going to spare you the embarrassment. anywho, im buying the non-supercharged version which happens to run low 16's. everything will be stay bone stock, just gonna spray. i think it can be done if the bottom end holds up. And to secret agent, i actually know a little more about cars than you think. all you had to do was simply ask what kinda car instead blurting out that rude comment. no reason to get an attitude man, cant all us domestics and imports get along, jeez...

[dak4.7]

It's most definitely not worth it. The FAST system is a full standalone, it replaces your ECU to give you FULL control for fine tuning down to every last detail. You're wanting to put it on a motor that's going to stay almost completely stock, plus nitrous. There's just no point. There's really not going to be much for you to tune, what with you not changing ANYTHING on the engine just about. And spending 3 grand just to get control of different nitrous stages, I say again, if you must do the slow spray-in idea, just get a controller, they're some 400 bucks, and will do the same thing in the end, but cost less. You know if you set up multiple stages for nitrous it's going to cost tons more in lines, jetting, and solenoids, correct? Again, you're spending 3+ grand to do what you could do with a LOT less cash.

Furthermore, high 13's? Spending 3 grand or more to run high 13's is terrible. I'm trying to keep it nice, because we all get ideas of our own that might not seem feasible to others, but holy crap man, there are cars that run faster than that stock, and you're wanting to put a standalone system on a car to barely get into helmet range, horrible Idea IMO, that 3 grand could be put into dozens of better projects that would give you more bang for the buck.. and even brand new, I still say 3 grand is too high a price for that system, granted the laptop cost is included, but like I said, you can run that system on an old pentium 2 laptop, maybe even lower. While an 800-900 dollar laptop to control your car is a nice thing to have around, there's no point in spending so much on a system you could get considerably cheaper, then skimping on the thing that actually does the work: the ENGINE.

[tmajik86]

^^^
you make some good points. i guess im just getting to ahead of myself. since the cobalt is extremely new i want to be one of those guys thats like first in the scene with all the know how so peeps that wanna go fast with the same car can come to me and use my ideas and i can make money selling what i did to make my car fast, if any of that makes sense ? anywho, i guess your right, i suppose i need to build the engine b4 anything. but these motor are good til like 280 b4 the rods let go. but thanxs for ya'lls input on the idea, i aint gonna get it no more. i could use that 3grand to go off and buy some cams, new rods and pistons then tune it, then go form there.

[JDMhatchback]

i dont think its worth it. i think there's a reason why you are only one to do so :) and it isnt even about imports and domestics getting along. if you cant really afford to build a badass motor then why are you buying a full standalone??? these comments were for the previous post, not your last one.

[SecretAgent]

i dont think its worth it. i think there's a reason why you are only one to do so :) and it isnt even about imports and domestics getting along. if you cant really afford to build a badass motor then why are you buying a full standalone??? these comments were for the previous post, not your last one.


nah, let the kid put 3-stage nitrous on his stock non-sc'd cobalt. it'll be funny!

[vx hatch]

I got a FAST system that is a sequential system and I will install and a base tune for you for $2000. LMK know if interested 281 628 3095.

As for 3 stages of nitrous??? I would just stick to a single fogger or maybe a nice direct port setup.

[tmajik86]

nah, let the kid put 3-stage nitrous on his stock non-sc'd cobalt. it'll be funny!

Whats yur deal dude. you act like im not gonna get anywhere. this motor is just as stout as most imports. and the deal on not building the motor first is to see whats the weakest link and continue to build and go on from there. instead of just throwing rods, or pistons, or other shit i might not need at it. This system might be overkill right now, but it'll come in handy later i think, but apparently i dont know anything...

[SecretAgent]

lol, ok dude. you go throw all that nitrous and a standalone on your brand new car to destroy any warranty you may have had, and then blow the motor when you try to spray it. i guess throwing away money is smart to you?

and if you have 3k laying around to throw on FAST, why wouldn't you just get the SC'd cobalt? isn't it 3k more than the base model? then you'll be 1/2 a second slower than you would with your crazy dream nitrous setup, but still have a factory warranty and be bone stock??? i don't see the point in modding a car all crazy just to be slightly faster than the top of the line model.

[tmajik86]

Alright, ss model is 21k. the model im getting is 15k with my employee rebate, not to mention ss is a performance model and i dont really wanna spend the extra money on insurance when it could go to better things. its not like im intent on finding this standalone system, a co-worker didnt want his anymore and im simply asking the respectability of the product, cause frankly i dont know much about fast except that they deal with fuel injection. Im just trying to see if the system is a worthwhile investment because i can just ask for it when i want, and get it the same day if it will benefit me. but it looks like no one thinks its a good investment for my particular project, which i agree it is somewhat pricey. oh and the model im gettin runs a mid 16 per car and driver, and i think just spraying nitrous on it while having everything on it bone stock and bein able to run a high 13 is a big improvement, if i could run such a number that alone should justify the strength and durability of this engine. cause everyone seems to think its a shity car which is their opinion but i have faith in gm's powertrain.

[cypher]

3k is to much.

[Silverbeast]

hahahahhahahhaaahhaha.....

[SilverEk3dr]

Jesus... and this kid is for real??

Why dont you just look at what everyone else is going fast with and get one of those?? Hell I'm more of a honda guy but I would still take an SRT-4 over a cobalt any day. There sorta close in prices too. Even an old gsx/gst would be faster and you could mod them up with your 3k and go deep 13's maybe 12's... (without 3 stages of nitrous!)

Maybe I'm wrong... but it just seems like a good olde fashion waste of money only to have a ricer dream of a cobalt/cavalier..

[240sxboi]

i'd get the SRT-4 over that piece of shit N/A cobalt any day, run low 13's with a few CHEAP mods and still be around 20k.

idiot![/napolean dynamite]

[bs motorsports 2]

Look man i understand wanting to do somehting a little diffrent i really do and your question has already been answered about the F.A.S.T. system. If you think gm Put a whole lot of time in development on this hunk of junk and you want to test it out go for it but i promise you, you will be disapointed when your car runs a 17.1 at 81mph stock then goes 15.1 at 45mph on nitrous becouase you blew the motor. Then it will sit there in your driveway for a year while you save money to buy another long block. Parts for these cars are unreal and try to find a extra block for a decent price. If you want to go fast in a shitty car at least start w/ the best shitty car you can.

[tmajik86]

Look man i understand wanting to do somehting a little diffrent i really do and your question has already been answered about the F.A.S.T. system. If you think gm Put a whole lot of time in development on this hunk of junk and you want to test it out go for it but i promise you, you will be disapointed when your car runs a 17.1 at 81mph stock then goes 15.1 at 45mph on nitrous becouase you blew the motor. Then it will sit there in your driveway for a year while you save money to buy another long block. Parts for these cars are unreal and try to find a extra block for a decent price. If you want to go fast in a shitty car at least start w/ the best shitty car you can.

Maybe ya'll should research a little more about the cobalt and ecotec motor. The 2dr coupes run 15.7-15.9's all day long? i dunno where u got that 17.1 ? Even the 4dr sedans run half a second faster than that. Putting money into modding this car with produce more power gains than any civic out there. I dont know why yall think it wont get anywhere, shit the 2drs run almost if not as fast as the Si model civics. So are all the guys with Si's wasting there time modding there civics too....

[Matticus]

Putting money into modding this car with produce more power gains than any civic out there. I dont know why yall think it wont get anywhere, shit the 2drs run almost if not as fast as the Si model civics. So are all the guys with Si's wasting there time modding there civics too....

Have you ever seen this http://www.ag.auburn.edu/users/gparmer/articles/neon/

I think you need to research cars in general before you start trying to tell everyone a cobalt has more potential than than "any civic out there". Why do you think people build civics and integras? Trained monkey's could build one, its "tried and true". Meaning people have done it and it works. If you dont have the knowledge and the back ground to take on a project such as what you are asking about, then you need to just call this a crazy dream and go back to bed. This is as bad as my buddy's dream of spraying his tibby. Although I think he is still gonna do it but not in 3 stage with a standalone on his stock motor. He is gonna spray a 75 shot single nx fogger system. At least you dream big.

To your comment about modding si's. You are talking about a car that comes stock with a supercharger compared to a car with just a motor under the hood. IMO I think the car that runs a tad bit slower on motor has more potential than the car car that runs a tad bit faster with a supercharger.

Last thing, buy a used cobalt with the shit ran out of it for dirt if you must spray one

[Matticus]

Maybe ya'll should research a little more about the cobalt and ecotec motor.


We are going to leave this one up to you.

[tiedupfool]

I was given the offer to buy a FAST fuel injection ecu and hardware/harness for my future car. I plan on spraying the holy hell outta this car and i like to spray a 2 or 3 stage system. Do yall think its worth the 3g's i can get it for. yay or nay ?
damn for three g's you can get the tec3 . . . .

[bs motorsports 2]

This is a dead topic but o well... You tell me i need to do more reserch about some peice of shit car i couldnt give 2 fucks about that you want to put some outlandish stand alone on... Please man do not come at me telling me i dont know what im talking about a civic si runs 15.1-15.5 all day buddy o yea thats w/ no supercharger... The cobalt is a under engineered pos car... It wil fall apart in under 100,000 miles...

[tmajik86]

This is a dead topic but o well... You tell me i need to do more reserch about some peice of shit car i couldnt give 2 fucks about that you want to put some outlandish stand alone on... Please man do not come at me telling me i dont know what im talking about a civic si runs 15.1-15.5 all day buddy o yea thats w/ no supercharger... The cobalt is a under engineered pos car... It wil fall apart in under 100,000 miles...


Why do yall keep assuming im talking about the ss? I was talking about the 2dr 2.2L non supercharged. and dont 03+ Si's run around 15.8's ?

[bs motorsports 2]

The non supercharged model is even stupider and yes around 15.8s but i was refering to the pre 03 ( just in case you dont know the 99-00) And the 03 model has extreamly more potential than a cobalt....

[tmajik86]

The non supercharged model is even stupider and yes around 15.8s but i was refering to the pre 03 ( just in case you dont know the 99-00) And the 03 model has extreamly more potential than a cobalt....


How so ? Doesnt Gm offer a 2.2L motor that makes 535hp with about 65% stock parts, i think so. How much more potential can you get with an 03+ Si compared to that? Not much if any. I aint hating on the Si or nothing, but gm is more recognized at making power than honda...

[SecretAgent]

i'll sum it up like this. Honda is currently posting record breaking sales results. GM has reported over a 1.1 BILLION dollar first quarter loss.

150 million americans can't be wrong.

[mikesrex]

I aint hating on the Si or nothing, but gm is more recognized at making power than honda...

Where are all the guys with their 600-800 WHP ecotecs driving around? I must be out of the loop since I haven't seen any ecotec guys whooping up on all the Honda guys.

[babietuan323]

you got the moneY?

[bs motorsports 2]

How so ? Doesnt Gm offer a 2.2L motor that makes 535hp with about 65% stock parts, i think so. How much more potential can you get with an 03+ Si compared to that? Not much if any. I aint hating on the Si or nothing, but gm is more recognized at making power than honda...


Never heard or seen this car.. dont belive it and long live honda powa!!

[st00pid]

How so ? Doesnt Gm offer a 2.2L motor that makes 535hp with about 65% stock parts, i think so. How much more potential can you get with an 03+ Si compared to that? Not much if any. I aint hating on the Si or nothing, but gm is more recognized at making power than honda...

I know Honda offers a 2.2L motor that made 536hp on 100% stock parts.

[SecretAgent]

I know Honda offers a 2.2L motor that made 536hp on 100% stock parts.


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