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96cxt
02-09-2003, 05:59 PM
on my way home on I45 towards downtown. I saw a new Si HB black with black wheels and a polished lip. I don't know if he had anything done or not because there were alot of car around us. We raced 2 times and I pulled him both times.
I was in my 99 SI coupe with H/I/E and a slipping clutch:D .

I was surprised that I pulled him like that. I thought that these would be faster cause of the bigger motors. But maybe he was granny shifting lol.

Gooback
02-09-2003, 06:05 PM
naw they are pretty damn slow, actually slower than stock 00si's good kill though:thumb:

Replica
02-09-2003, 09:12 PM
We beat a new SI in my brother's miata...

R.J.
02-09-2003, 09:31 PM
new si's got the base rsx engine.:thumb:

sal_blkej2
02-09-2003, 09:34 PM
nice kill Rahim:thumb:







laters, Sal

SportVortech
02-09-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Celica2k2
new si's got the base rsx engine.:thumb:


lol that sig makes me laugh everytime i see it.....

R.J.
02-09-2003, 09:36 PM
i know its my sig and i still laugh every time i see it:roflmao:

Slim ThuG
02-09-2003, 10:27 PM
new Si=slow

McFly
02-09-2003, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Slim ThuG
new Si=slow

werd my friend.

bryan

tegteg
02-10-2003, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by 96cxt
on my way home on I45 towards downtown. I saw a new Si HB black with black wheels and a polished lip. I don't know if he had anything done or not because there were alot of car around us. We raced 2 times and I pulled him both times.
I was in my 99 SI coupe with H/I/E and a slipping clutch:D .

I was surprised that I pulled him like that. I thought that these would be faster cause of the bigger motors. But maybe he was granny shifting lol.
yeah they are pretty slow, i took one out with my ls integra, and my teg is pretty much stock!!

NAEBP00Si
02-10-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by 96cxt
on my way home on I45 towards downtown. I saw a new Si HB black with black wheels and a polished lip. I don't know if he had anything done or not because there were alot of car around us. We raced 2 times and I pulled him both times.
I was in my 99 SI coupe with H/I/E and a slipping clutch:D .

I was surprised that I pulled him like that. I thought that these would be faster cause of the bigger motors. But maybe he was granny shifting lol.

You sure it wasnt an Odessey? The new Si's look a lot like the Odessey.....

I am very dissapointed in the new Si's and that they carry the Si badge....

McFly
02-10-2003, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by NAEBP00Si


You sure it wasnt an Odessey? The new Si's look a lot like the Odessey.....

I am very dissapointed in the new Si's and that they carry the Si badge....

they wouldn't be much of a dissappointment if they would have thrown the K20C or a B series motor into the bad boy, but nope, they throw in the good ole K20A which is such a powerful one, letme tell you. and why didn't they just produced the prototype CRX, i would be driving one if they would have done that.

bryan

l33t
02-10-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by tegteg

yeah they are pretty slow, i took one out with my ls integra, and my teg is pretty much stock!!

you must be racing some shitty ass drivers because i own the shit out of a stock ls anyday in mine, oh an also, i don't see how a .1 second 1/4 mile difference is freakin slow in a 1/4 mile hondas shouldn't even be racing the 1/4 mile

SexualChocolate
02-10-2003, 04:32 PM
SLOW AS FAWK!

midnightblue
02-10-2003, 04:35 PM
New si's=SLOW.:D

tegteg
02-10-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by l33t


you must be racing some shitty ass drivers because i own the shit out of a stock ls anyday in mine, oh an also, i don't see how a .1 second 1/4 mile difference is freakin slow in a 1/4 mile hondas shouldn't even be racing the 1/4 mile
well you were probably racing a shitty driver too!!
well my ls has b16tranny, act clutch, chip, i guess that hepls a little!!!:D

tegteg
02-10-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by l33t


you must be racing some shitty ass drivers because i own the shit out of a stock ls anyday in mine, oh an also, i don't see how a .1 second 1/4 mile difference is freakin slow in a 1/4 mile hondas shouldn't even be racing the 1/4 mile
is you si a white one? been here by the belt way before?

NAEBP00Si
02-10-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by l33t


you must be racing some shitty ass drivers because i own the shit out of a stock ls anyday in mine, oh an also, i don't see how a .1 second 1/4 mile difference is freakin slow in a 1/4 mile hondas shouldn't even be racing the 1/4 mile


.1 second diff in the 1/4mi?

The NEW Si is tested at a mind boggling 16.2@85.1 (via SCC Dec 02)

as opposed to it predicessor the 99=00 Si Coupe clicked the 1320 at 15.7@88.4 (Super Street March 99)

So where you got 1/10 a diff in the 1/4 I dont know....

And if Hondas shouldnt be racing the in the 1/4 what are you doing with your car?

PissYellowGTi
02-10-2003, 05:47 PM
Looks like we have some ownage going on here.

turboteg
02-10-2003, 06:11 PM
I would never go by the magazine's quarter mile times. They are usually always way off.

travis_99civic
02-10-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by NAEBP00Si



.1 second diff in the 1/4mi?

The NEW Si is tested at a mind boggling 16.2@85.1 (via SCC Dec 02)

as opposed to it predicessor the 99=00 Si Coupe clicked the 1320 at 15.7@88.4 (Super Street March 99)

So where you got 1/10 a diff in the 1/4 I dont know....

And if Hondas shouldnt be racing the in the 1/4 what are you doing with your car?



:Owned:
Nice one....i havent had the opportunity to race on of those yet...thought they were faster than that.....guess ill try my luck next time i see one. :D

GhostFaceKilla
02-10-2003, 06:42 PM
isn't there a New SI with I/H/E who ran a 14.8 in the 1/4?

NAEBP00Si
02-10-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by turboteg
I would never go by the magazine's quarter mile times. They are usually always way off.


rags times arent always the "best" times......however I can assure you the new Si is close to a half second slower then the Si coupe.....I ran a 15.4 with a clutch and CAI....I dont see a new Si pulling that off.....I have driven one..

CRX boy
02-10-2003, 10:06 PM
The new Si's only produce 160 Horsepower just like the old one, but that is crappy considering its a 2.0 Liter. The old one was a 1.6 and it produced 100 horsepower per liter. So if it was a 2.0 liter it would produce 200 horsepower, but somewhere along the line Honda Screwed up on the new SI and they only produce 160. So not only are there motors bigger and heavier, they produce less than they should and the car is heavy!:hit:

l33t
02-10-2003, 11:03 PM
i don't race 1/4, but when the chance arises on the street i am not shy to race, a guy on the ep boards ran a 15.6 with a shortram and exhaust and had the papers to prove it, and i have seen some magazines also run a 15.8 in one stock, and they also said old si got a 15.7 fro the same driver, eahc place has their own testers I suppose but don't forget about torque in the 2 liter, compare the torque of a stock 99 si with the torque of an 02 si

CRX boy
02-10-2003, 11:11 PM
Thats a good point, I didnt think about the torque, how much torque do they produce? and how much did the old one produce? come on guys its time to bust out your old issues of sport compact!!!:snow:

Fo0
02-11-2003, 07:04 AM
Si has 138tq at crank and 124tq at wheels. I have seen lots of Si run mid 15s with a few boltons...

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by l33t
i don't race 1/4, but when the chance arises on the street i am not shy to race, a guy on the ep boards ran a 15.6 with a shortram and exhaust and had the papers to prove it, and i have seen some magazines also run a 15.8 in one stock, and they also said old si got a 15.7 fro the same driver, eahc place has their own testers I suppose but don't forget about torque in the 2 liter, compare the torque of a stock 99 si with the torque of an 02 si

also keep in mind Houston Raceway Park has the fastest track in the country due to being near sea level....so times here tend to be quicker then other places.......and as I have said I have driven the new Si.....me and a friend wanted to check them out and went to a dealership...they gave it to us for a day.....we took it to lunch and drove it around....we brought it back well before the day was over.....it was a pig in the turns.....had no pull and the rev limit was sad......it carries the Si badge and shifts must take place well before 8k.......We could tell the TQ diff between it and mine....but you could also see the power to weight ratio diff.....TQ gets you out HP keep you in front.....bottom line a 2.0L new Si is a BIG dissapointment

bigA
02-11-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by NAEBP00Si


also keep in mind Houston Raceway Park has the fastest track in the country due to being near sea level....so times here tend to be quicker then other places.......

very true, never knew it was near sea level, but i guess its pretty much common sence....if you look at the new si just right...it resembles a giant cockroach...someone pointed this out to me one morning on the way to school....i still dont get the whole "rally shifter" thing they were going for...a real rally shifter would be like a foot and 1/2 hight with a 2 foot longer rod...at least its "unique"

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by bigA


....if you look at the new si just right...it resembles a giant cockroach...someone pointed this out to me one morning on the way to school....

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by NAEBP00Si


also keep in mind Houston Raceway Park has the fastest track in the country due to being near sea level....so times here tend to be quicker then other places.......and as I have said I have driven the new Si.....me and a friend wanted to check them out and went to a dealership...they gave it to us for a day.....we took it to lunch and drove it around....we brought it back well before the day was over.....it was a pig in the turns.....had no pull and the rev limit was sad......it carries the Si badge and shifts must take place well before 8k.......We could tell the TQ diff between it and mine....but you could also see the power to weight ratio diff.....TQ gets you out HP keep you in front.....bottom line a 2.0L new Si is a BIG dissapointment

the guy ain't from houston there are like 3 or 4 active members on that whole board from houston

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by l33t


the guy ain't from houston there are like 3 or 4 active members on that whole board from houston

:confused:

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by NAEBP00Si


:confused:

you started talking about how we haev the fastest raceway

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by l33t


you started talking about how we haev the fastest raceway

yeah, the one in baytown.....Im from Houston though :roflmao:

Turbo_LS_Hatch
02-11-2003, 02:09 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the 99-00 Si tuned fairly well from the factory, while the 02-up are very undertuned? Also, doesn't the new Si get about 15fwhp from a good intake alone? I think the car stock has nice passing power, but it dies off quickly when run at WOT, but with the bigger engine, shouldn't mods make a little more power?

Booja
02-11-2003, 02:11 PM
nice kill!

those are slow...

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the 99-00 Si tuned fairly well from the factory, while the 02-up are very undertuned? Also, doesn't the new Si get about 15fwhp from a good intake alone? I think the car stock has nice passing power, but it dies off quickly when run at WOT, but with the bigger engine, shouldn't mods make a little more power?

factory "tuning" hasnt varied.....the new Si sports VTEC-i (VTEC with intelligence aka variable cam timing along with valve timing) with new emmissions regularly becoming more strict all cars now run a much "leaner" fuel curve...I dont know about whp gains from bolt-on parts.....I know that I havent seen a new Si worth being impressed over....I think Honda did an injustice with the new Si......

houstonspecv
02-11-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the 99-00 Si tuned fairly well from the factory, while the 02-up are very undertuned? Also, doesn't the new Si get about 15fwhp from a good intake alone? I think the car stock has nice passing power, but it dies off quickly when run at WOT, but with the bigger engine, shouldn't mods make a little more power?

no the b16a2 was far from tuned.

but yes with displacement comes greater gains off of mods. hence why there is no replacement for displacement.

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the 99-00 Si tuned fairly well from the factory, while the 02-up are very undertuned? Also, doesn't the new Si get about 15fwhp from a good intake alone? I think the car stock has nice passing power, but it dies off quickly when run at WOT, but with the bigger engine, shouldn't mods make a little more power?

the ecu makes for good power, lowers 0-60 by a second and puts the redline at 7700 rpms, i read spoons ecu puts the redline at 9100 but it isn't very smart to run it without a bulletproofed engine, oh and i just have one of those cheap ass $30 ebay intakes on mine i put on on friday, i actually do feel it alot more then the stock intake, the stock intake box was shitty as hell i toko it out i was suprised at how restrictive it was, i am probably going to turbo mine possibly this summer, depends what i want to do first,( jdm black chrome housing, tein springs, HID, tint, some rota circuit 8s temporarily until next summer, hks hi flow exhaust, some damn better tires then the pos tires that come on it, and probably the oem exterior parts and a CF hood), or turbo, so who knows what i do but i can guarantee you in 2 years the car will have a turbo on it

tegteg
02-11-2003, 02:26 PM
bottom line a 2.0L new Si is a BIG dissapointment!!!



took the words out of my mind!!!

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:26 PM
aren't we talking about stock here, cuz we could go on and on about the what if's of the Si, both editions. all i know is the new hatch just doesn't cut it to wear the Si badge, but to each is their own.

bryan

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by McFly
aren't we talking about stock here, cuz we could go on and on about the what if's of the Si, both editions. all i know is the new hatch just doesn't cut it to wear the Si badge, but to each is their own.

bryan
I wasn't aware this years Si was the slowest of every generation, and what are the expectations of it plz inform me

houstonspecv
02-11-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by l33t

I wasn't aware this years Si was the slowest of every generation


the new si sucks because it doesnt rev to 8k, even though it has a rigider frame and an engine with alot of potential.

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:30 PM
i was expecting a design similar to the eg or ek hatch with a k20c as the Si version because of the type S version of the rsx. i don't know, i drove one from john eagle, the stereo is nice, but the shifter and the power just wasn't there like i thought it would be.

bryan

(not dissing your car man, just not me)

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by houstonspecv



the new si sucks because it doesnt rev to 8k, even though it has a rigider frame and an engine with alot of potential.

the rev limit can be turned to 9100 with an ecu

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by McFly
i was expecting a design similar to the eg or ek hatch with a k20c as the Si version because of the type S version of the rsx. i don't know, i drove one from john eagle, the stereo is nice, but the shifter and the power just wasn't there like i thought it would be.

bryan

(not dissing your car man, just not me)
shifter is one of the most praised things about the car due to how fast it shifts

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:31 PM
i thought we were talking about stock here. you can do anything you fkn want to to a car, u just have to have the cash.

bryan

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by l33t

shifter is one of the most praised things about the car due to how fast it shifts

from who?

bryan

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by McFly


from who?

bryan

pretty much every review there is even if they hate the car they give the shifter credit
edit: honda made the car the way it is to be fixed

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:36 PM
i will take that.

bryan

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by houstonspecv



the new si sucks because it doesnt rev to 8k, even though it has a rigider frame and an engine with alot of potential.


all motors have potential.......The 93-95 SOHC Si has a higher rev limit then the new one.....the Si was renound for its red-line...which dropped about 1500 RPMs from the previous release

bigA
02-11-2003, 02:39 PM
yea, not sure what Honda was thinking on this one....seems to me that they didnt expect people to really look at how the new SI performs...im thinking that just becuase it has the Si badge that it should sell well. my ex girlfriends dad is a manager of a honda dealership and he talked about how good this car was supposed to sell for like 8 months before it came to the market....now out of about 2200 people at our high school (2 grades) there is ONE....thats it...just one.....and its bone stock, but thats beside the point....ive seen only enough SI out of the dealership to count on two hands....id anticipate some change in the new Si very soon, as sales are terrible now anyway...

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:41 PM
sales will be bad on any car until after tax returns come back.

bryan

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:41 PM
in intervies with the honda president, he repeated several times they put certain parts on there because they knew people who were buying it would be replacing it, once the stock airbox is removed there is a fkn massive area that opens up which poeple thought wasn't there, personally, i think from a stock buyers part i would not buy it, but it was made to be fixed, if the Si had the same parts many of the other cars in it's class, IE neon mazdaspeed protege, gti, and such others, the Si would probably be the best car out there, I've read the si gets 230 hp with one of the turbo kits out now, that's like 10 less hp then the neon (i think it ahs 240 hp) and there are no scoops or anything for cooling the engine in it. my only complaints from stock is the crappy ass tires and the suspension could be a bit better, i can spin the tires fairly easily through first and second and if i go from pretty much any rpm other then 1 i can burn them easily, hell i can spin them just flooring it

houstonspecv
02-11-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by NAEBP00Si



all motors have potential.......The 93-95 SOHC Si has a higher rev limit then the new one.....the Si was renound for its red-line...which dropped about 1500 RPMs from the previous release

yep but at least it makes the same power.

hell thats one of the reason the classic se-r owns hate the new ser is because the engine has a 1300rpm lower redline even though it makes more power.

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by bigA
yea, not sure what Honda was thinking on this one....seems to me that they didnt expect people to really look at how the new SI performs...im thinking that just becuase it has the Si badge that it should sell well. my ex girlfriends dad is a manager of a honda dealership and he talked about how good this car was supposed to sell for like 8 months before it came to the market....now out of about 2200 people at our high school (2 grades) there is ONE....thats it...just one.....and its bone stock, but thats beside the point....ive seen only enough SI out of the dealership to count on two hands....id anticipate some change in the new Si very soon, as sales are terrible now anyway...

actually goodson sells them alot, and I too am the only person at my school with one, but there are no prvious generations of Si, and there are no integras other then stock ls autos, and one one Gti which is Mike, a girl's mom ehre has a gti but if your counting student cars they don't count, not amny students buy new cars

bigA
02-11-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by l33t


actually goodson sells them alot, and I too am the only person at my school with one, but there are no prvious generations of Si, and there are no integras other then stock ls autos, and one one Gti which is Mike, a girl's mom ehre has a gti but if your counting student cars they don't count, not amny students buy new cars

shit, goodson sells everything a lot...there might as well not be any honda dealership within a radius of like 50 miles or so...but thats cool and good for them.....how many people are at your school because i think were from two different places

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:50 PM
our school has a bunch of more modding.

bryan

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by bigA


shit, goodson sells everything a lot...there might as well not be any honda dealership within a radius of like 50 miles or so...but thats cool and good for them.....how many people are at your school because i think were from two different places

Westside Highschool over near highway 6, all the people who mod their cars are igmos and are sorry ass cars, cept for Mike's gti, you can ask him how retarded people are here, and every import is disgusting,

McFly
02-11-2003, 02:55 PM
damnit i hate that! dude, i just want to say i didn't mean to hate on your car if you took it like that, hell if you drove my car, you prolly wouldn't like it. so its all good man.

bryan

(is taht all you have at westfield?)

l33t
02-11-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by McFly
damnit i hate that! dude, i just want to say i didn't mean to hate on your car if you took it like that, hell if you drove my car, you prolly wouldn't like it. so its all good man.

bryan

(is taht all you have at westfield?)
not a problem, i feel as if i have to prove why honda did the shit they did, you have to have read all the discussions with the president and such to get it

McFly
02-11-2003, 03:00 PM
i hear ya man. well, it makes since, from what you have said. i have seen them on speedvision in the UK on the track with M3s and shit. soooo yea.

bryan

bigA
02-11-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by l33t

not a problem, i feel as if i have to prove why honda did the shit they did, you have to have read all the discussions with the president and such to get it

at least you get hard evidence to back your shit becuase many of times ive seen people just toss it out of their ass like they know the world

l33t
02-11-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by McFly
i hear ya man. well, it makes since, from what you have said. i have seen them on speedvision in the UK on the track with M3s and shit. soooo yea.

bryan

the EP3 is having great success in overseas racing, taking first in many events, then again that is the rsx-s engine but luckily the engines are basicly identical to do the swap, just eneds time to get some chaeper engines, 10k for a DC5-r engine to me is insane, along with 5k for the rsx-s engine is still some rapeage

bigA
02-11-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by l33t


the EP3 is having great success in overseas racing, taking first in many events, then again that is the rsx-s engine but luckily the engines are basicly identical to do the swap, just eneds time to get some chaeper engines, 10k for a DC5-r engine to me is insane, along with 5k for the rsx-s engine is still some rapeage


very true....but do you think the new accord engine could be stuffed in there??

Turbo_LS_Hatch
02-11-2003, 03:07 PM
Why does everyone bitch about rev limits. I went down 1,200RPM's on this engine, and I don't mind at all. The same hp is made, and more torque at a lower RPM, if it can do that, why take it to 8k? At first I didn't like the styling of the new Si, but I have learned to love it. It'll only make me like it, and like it longer than a car I automatically like the first time I see it, it's different. I think the new one will be as good as the last.

Why is veryone bitching about weight? I didn't hear many complaints about the RSX over the Integra.

bigA
02-11-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
Why is veryone bitching about weight? I didn't hear many complaints about the RSX over the Integra.

because the rsx makes up the power for its new weight like no problem...

McFly
02-11-2003, 03:10 PM
yeah, i liked the aerospeed one and i saw two in a magazine i liked a lot! just time i assume.

bryan

Turbo_LS_Hatch
02-11-2003, 03:14 PM
I've seen 15.1-2 posted for the RSX-S, but I've never seen anything under a 15.4 stock, or with an intake exhaust. Also, most of them don't seem to respond that well to mods.

Kurt
02-11-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
Also, most of them don't seem to respond that well to mods.

hate to call on you David, but I have seen just the opposite

McFly
02-11-2003, 03:21 PM
on their forums, people have posted 14.2s with just intake and clutch.

bryan

McFly
02-11-2003, 03:22 PM
and yes, their slips were on the pages.

bryan

CRX boy
02-11-2003, 08:51 PM
The new Si isnt all that bad, it does have a few nice features the old one didnt, for instance look at the Recaro style seats!!! the old one never had those. Come on you gotta admit those are pretty baddass seats. In fact they were so badass that somebody took the liberty of stealing my homeboy Chris's seats out of his new Si 3 weeks ago! He was pissed but I told him to think of it as a compliment because that means that somebody liked something about his car. They would be alot better if they came with the RSX motors! like they do in Japan, why is Honda holding out on us? Sales would be up if they had 200 HP and the 6 speed tranny. I hear that the CRX maybe comming back, and that it will have the RSX motor and 6 speed tranny. If so I want it, but if it looks exactly like the new Si, then they would just be releasing the Civic Type R under the CRX name. But I would still buy it, because it says CRX. Those cars are going to be classics one day!

bigA
02-11-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by CRX boy
Those cars are going to be classics one day!

damn dude, those are already classics :thumb:

CRX boy
02-11-2003, 09:04 PM
Thats with I was telling all my friends but they are all in denial, I should have kept mine, but I sold it like a dummy. Mine ran a 15.4 in the quarter, it was a DX with Multi point conversion, 96 D16Y7, Si tranny, 93 Mitsubishi Eclipse Clutch it works like a stage2, 93 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX injectors, and a 90 Mustang 5.0 fuel pump, with cold air intake and it was fully gutted. Chris hated me for it because I could whoop his new Si with my single cam screamer.

Replica
02-11-2003, 09:06 PM
The new and 6th gen SI are both slow stock. Who cares?

bigA
02-11-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by CRX boy
Chris hated me for it because I could whoop his new Si with my single cam screamer.

hahahahaha.....he'll get over it eventually

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
I've seen 15.1-2 posted for the RSX-S, but I've never seen anything under a 15.4 stock, or with an intake exhaust. Also, most of them don't seem to respond that well to mods.

ACTUALLY the RSX has seen close to 20whp with a "CAI"

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
Why does everyone bitch about rev limits. I went down 1,200RPM's on this engine, and I don't mind at all. The same hp is made, and more torque at a lower RPM, if it can do that, why take it to 8k? At first I didn't like the styling of the new Si, but I have learned to love it. It'll only make me like it, and like it longer than a car I automatically like the first time I see it, it's different. I think the new one will be as good as the last.

Why is veryone bitching about weight? I didn't hear many complaints about the RSX over the Integra.

you are comparing apples to oranges...boost to N/A is another realm.....I could have kept my rev limit down and gone on the bottle and made gobs more tq.....

Gooback
02-11-2003, 10:54 PM
15.0 flat in a type S is a HELL of alot faster than 15.7 and up to 16.0 I have seent stock New SI's run they are slow as fawk, modded sorry still slow. Id take a modded 00 Si over the 02 anyday, shit look at what Kirk NAEBP00SI has acoplished with his car, no 02 SI will even come close to him. Not to flame you or your car dude and Im not trying to be an ass but they wont be fast, on spray or all motor. I raced an 02 SI spraying 75 shot and he still got owned horribly by my slow ass auto accord:D edit and David peopel who have cms need a high ass revlimiter, some cams dont shine till 7 grand and above up to 9500, if your car makes power that high why wouldnt you take it there? Providing it does actually make power and valvesprings and retainers have been upgraded of course

l33t
02-11-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by molded95accord
15.0 flat in a type S is a HELL of alot faster than 15.7 and up to 16.0 I have seent stock New SI's run they are slow as fawk, modded sorry still slow. Id take a modded 00 Si over the 02 anyday, shit look at what Kirk NAEBP00SI has acoplished with his car, no 02 SI will even come close to him. Not to flame you or your car dude and Im not trying to be an ass but they wont be fast, on spray or all motor. I raced an 02 SI spraying 75 shot and he still got owned horribly by my slow ass auto accord:D edit and David peopel who have cms need a high ass revlimiter, some cams dont shine till 7 grand and above up to 9500, if your car makes power that high why wouldnt you take it there? Providing it does actually make power and valvesprings and retainers have been upgraded of course your accord also has an engine swap

Gooback
02-11-2003, 11:02 PM
engine swap yes, 4 door 18s auto and a shit load of added weight from body work too:D when I raced modded 00Si's the fight is mucho better than any 02 Si has ever givin me, if NAEBP00SI can make it down to race tomarrow he will be the first Si to ever Own me I actually look forward to the NA beast whoopin me it shall be fun!:thumb:

Turbo_LS_Hatch
02-11-2003, 11:08 PM
I know, I used to drive a car with an 8k redline, and an 8300 fuel cutoff. But high RPM is what most B series were designed for. The K20 wasn't designed to go that high, it was designed to make the power spinning less RPM's. I've heard of an 02 Si or two that will run with Kirk, if not, beat him. I know what Kirks car does, it's right around mine, which is amazing(on his part, sucks for me) but there are AT LEAST a handful of new Si's that will open peoples eyes. Give the engine time, you'll see what it can handle.

babietuan323
02-11-2003, 11:28 PM
Jesse's car is show and go
hehe
:thumb: :thumb:

NAEBP00Si
02-11-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Turbo_LS_Hatch
I know, I used to drive a car with an 8k redline, and an 8300 fuel cutoff. But high RPM is what most B series were designed for. The K20 wasn't designed to go that high, it was designed to make the power spinning less RPM's. I've heard of an 02 Si or two that will run with Kirk, if not, beat him. I know what Kirks car does, it's right around mine, which is amazing(on his part, sucks for me) but there are AT LEAST a handful of new Si's that will open peoples eyes. Give the engine time, you'll see what it can handle.

David set me up with these new Si's....I wanna be surprised

McFly
02-11-2003, 11:34 PM
i want to see this!

bryan

Fo0
02-12-2003, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by molded95accord
15.0 flat in a type S is a HELL of alot faster than 15.7 and up to 16.0 I have seent stock New SI's run they are slow as fawk, modded sorry still slow. Id take a modded 00 Si over the 02 anyday, shit look at what Kirk NAEBP00SI has acoplished with his car, no 02 SI will even come close to him. Not to flame you or your car dude and Im not trying to be an ass but they wont be fast, on spray or all motor. I raced an 02 SI spraying 75 shot and he still got owned horribly by my slow ass auto accord:D edit and David peopel who have cms need a high ass revlimiter, some cams dont shine till 7 grand and above up to 9500, if your car makes power that high why wouldnt you take it there? Providing it does actually make power and valvesprings and retainers have been upgraded of course

why do you say a 02Si will never be fast. All you need is a k20a2 and bolt-ons and hondata and you will be in 13s, same as the RSX-S. what do you think poeple said about a 4door auto accord being fast...

souwestbuddha
02-12-2003, 08:30 AM
man i dont know about them new si's.....they seem slower then the older models......newer isnt always better...

ASM
02-12-2003, 09:23 AM
He made this on ecu, intake, and tires.....So around stock id say they should be pulling 14.9's to flat 15's , but what can i say he's a bad ass driver:blue:

ASM
02-12-2003, 09:24 AM
every one seems to be doing pretty damn good:thumb: on clubrsx.com

1. 13.852 @ 100.40 - jdkindle link to the run ran 1-24-03
2. 14.128 @ 98.97 - pimplayahustla
3. 14.129 @ 100.08 - focusblur
4. 14.131 @ 100.00 - D ROC
5. 14.238 @ 99.34 - Silock
6. 14.252 @ 97.31 - GRaFiX34
7. 14.336 @ 97.39 - pauly1
8. 14.346 @ 96.12 - GSXR
9. 14.412 @ 95.32 - allenP
10. 14.454 @ 95.08 - master22
11. 14.490 @ 98.51 - ArCbLuRsXtYpEs
12. 14.552 @ 96.42 - DigginMyTypeS
13. 14.560 @ 97.67 - nostyps
14. 14.567 @ 96.67 - lowammowarning
15. 14.599 @ 96.86 - BlackRsx
16. 14.626 @ 96.53 - cjmrsxs
17. 14.646 @ 95.25 - APEXiTypes
18. 14.671 @ 95.64 - rsx blondie
19. 14.680 @ 95.21 - 2ndRSX
20. 14.701 @ 95.70 - TEXASRSX
21. 14.742 @ 93.92 - rsx31
22. 14.750 @ 94.79 - thatwillowboy
23. 14.760 @ 94.10 - PuckPuck
24. 14.965 @ 92.57 - K20TypeS
25. 14.983 @ 94.41 - Sab0921


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AWD
02-12-2003, 09:37 AM
thats great...start a new thread:cool:

AWD