Guide to Blow-Off Valves for n00bs

[CheeseFrog]

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802 wheel fucking horsepower!!! What kind of BOV does he use?

TIAL. That's all you need to know. No HKS SSQSQSWQS whatever. No OMFG this BOV is RFL! Just get a TIAL. How does it sound? Who cares?!? Ok yeah, just had to get that one off my chest.

[SloESLex]

you're a BOV.

[mikesrex]

ur a BOV

[that_guy]

w00t to frog. why bother buying any other BOV?

[scaredst8]

Crazy Post
LOL.......................... :gross:

[Agent S14]

*Writes it down if he gets either a Turbo for the S14 or a Scoobie*

[poorb0yw]

omgomg!!!! so since i have 2 TIAL BOVs.......... that means my car must have xxxx whp!!!!!!! :eekbunny:

[corky]

i like my hks just fine thank you.

[ngogsr]

damn thats a big ass DP :eek3: what is that guys set up?

[al]

I must admit the TiAL looks pretty hot, but the engine is turned the wrong way, what's up with that?!?!?

[babietuan323]

ur a BOV

[KeiichiLe]

pft.. its all about recirculating :o

[Todd Spoth]

"OH SHIT IS DAT THAT SSSQSSQSQQSQSQSQQQQSQSSQSSQSQSQSQsq q super eruerppeueeusuerueper bicentennial blow off valve????!!"

[pewterhatch]

:bawling: What's wrong with my HKS sq whatever. lol

[avex]

fuck that, compressor surge is the new jdm trend nowadays haha

[Matticus]

fuck that, compressor surge is the new jdm trend nowadays haha
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

[VolksFaggin]

pft.. its all about recirculating :o

[NismoFreakS14]

pft.. its all about recirculating :o

Weak you don't get that cool studder and all the fireballs.

You know you love fouled spark plugs!

[al]

Weak you don't get that cool studder and all the fireballs.

You know you love fouled spark plugs!

Hey Alan, have you been following the FreshAlloy thread about the blow-thru MAFS setup? I'd do it (screw the plastic housing) if I wasn't converting over to MAP.

The TiAL BOV looks sexy, but that's about as much advantage it has over rival BOVs.

[hatchynos91]

you're a BOV.

[crX-RATED]

Just get a TIAL. How does it sound? Who cares?!?

wrd.

I hate that people always ask how it sounds....like thats the #1 function of a BOV :rolleyes:

[VashThaStampede]

I must admit the TiAL looks pretty hot, but the engine is turned the wrong way, what's up with that?!?!?


seriously..wtf are you talking about?

[cypher]

maybe hes sayin the turbo is backwards? maybe hes only seen them the other way ? i dunno

[DA_LsVtAk]

i think he is talking bout its not RWD? lol

[mikesrex]

seriously..wtf are you talking about?
my guess is that al is insinuating that 800 WHP is useless in a FWD car and that the car should be RWD?

[4doorjdmwhore]

damn thats a big ass DP :eek3: what is that guys set up?

Yeah, Stan (DEADLYACCURACY) has that Tial 50mm, its fkn bad.

[al]

seriously..wtf are you talking about?

Don't feel bad, everyone moves up to RWD or AWD one day or the next ... resistance is futile. But we're straying from the original topic, let's all rejoice at how hot this TiAL BOV is

[Thundakat]

well, next time i have 8XX hp, ill be sure to set it up with a TIAL

[Project240]

well, next time i have 8XX hp, ill be sure to set it up with a TIAL


next time i have 8xx hp , i'll be sure to set it up with something RWD!#

[AccidentProWn]

next time i have 8xx hp , i'll be sure to set it up with something RWD!#

So never?

[Project240]

So never?



lol fag stfu

[appleburger]

tial's are definately sweet as shit!

[KOOL240]

I'm gonna throw my blitz in the trash as soon as I get home and order me a tial.:thumb:

[AccidentProWn]

I'm gonna throw my blitz in the trash as soon as I get home and order me a tial.:thumb:

where do you live you'll see me pickin through your trash

[got_trd]

Tial??? Your such a noob...




























lol j/k. Thats what I recommend also :thumb:

[240sxboi]

fuck that, compressor surge is the new jdm trend nowadays haha
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[KOOL240]

where do you live you'll see me pickin through your trash


I was just kidding my Blitz is bad to the bone.............F**k Tial.:thumb:

[AccidentProWn]

I was just kidding my Blitz is bad to the bone.............F**k Tial.:thumb:
1g dsm for me :thumb:

[Tombo]

wrd.

I hate that people always ask how it sounds....like thats the #1 function of a BOV :rolleyes:

Yeah but you gotta admit its fucking cool when you pin it up the street and scare the shit out of someone with a super sonic bov, .. i prefer the SSQ one i think it sounds cool, you guys must all have them cos not many boosted cars exist around my area. Most people buy Turbosmart products here cos they are not imported.

[cypher]

ive ran both tial and greddy. didnt like either. trying turbo xs next. and no not the rfl

[fastcivicboy]

any stock bov works. The 1g dsm bov has worked perfect in all of my setups. Represent.

[-=E36=-]

I have the HKS and it works fine. Does the Tial cost less or something? Why is it so much better? I never knew BOVs were such a big deal...

Ryan

[al]

It's not ... it's just pretty being anodized machined aluminum.

[appleburger]

I have the HKS and it works fine. Does the Tial cost less or something? Why is it so much better? I never knew BOVs were such a big deal...

Ryan
people will argue that certain companies springs are higher quality making them more responsive and that the BOV is made of higher quality materials blah blah blah...they all work, they all have their own "flaws" ,which usually aren't big enough to worry about, but some people have their minds set because of something someone told them at some point in time. if the tial was substantialy better than all other's you would see it on almost every car with an aftermarket BOV instead of just a few. it isn't any better than your hks, tons of people use it without trouble and the tial wouldn't do the job any better.

[-=E36=-]

exactly, its doesnt matter which BOV you use. So there is no point in getting tial over the rest...

Ryan

[appleburger]

exactly, its doesnt matter which BOV you use. So there is no point in getting tial over the rest...

Ryan
precisely.

[-=E36=-]

which makes this thread unsound and not valid/pointless.

Ryan

[appleburger]

which makes this thread unsound and not valid/pointless.

Ryan
it serves nothing more than to state an OPINION and mislead people into thinking the tial is in fact superior.

[-=E36=-]

it worked well in conclusion to reading everyone's posts from page 2 or before.

Rayn

[st00pid]

I like the Tial bovs, they havent failed on me, they havent leaked on me, and they look nice. I hate the HKS SSQ or whatever because on one thing; the flange, that thing is a huge pain in the ass to weld on!

[appleburger]

I like the Tial bovs, they havent failed on me, they havent leaked on me, and they look nice. I hate the HKS SSQ or whatever because on one thing; the flange, that thing is a huge pain in the ass to weld on!
yeah, the tial is a great bov, i'm not denying that! but to say its any better than others isn't true. to me, bov selection is about personal preference. in your case, you decided it was easier than the hks, thats fine. some people have to use certain bov's because of space issues, thats fine too. but they all perform the same job with the same results. unless of course you compare cheapo ebay ones to quality bov's like tial, hks or greddy.

[-=E36=-]

I like the Tial bovs, they havent failed on me, they havent leaked on me, and they look nice. I hate the HKS SSQ or whatever because on one thing; the flange, that thing is a huge pain in the ass to weld on!

Glad I didnt have to worry about my flange then.

Ryan

[JDMhatchback]

the turbo xs one seems to leak at higher boost.

[eternalsun]

802 WHP out of a B series, how?

[-=E36=-]

802 WHP out of a B series, how?

stock block...

Ryan

[eternalsun]

stock block...

Ryan
But how in the hell do you get 800 HP out of a B16 or B18 (one of the two) especially with a stock block? I am in no way hating, I love seeing a good, powerful Honda motor as much as the next guy, I have just never heard of a B series making so much power. I would really like to know how this is done.

[appleburger]

But how in the hell do you get 800 HP out of a B16 or B18 (one of the two) especially with a stock block? I am in no way hating, I love seeing a good, powerful Honda motor as much as the next guy, I have just never heard of a B series making so much power. I would really like to know how this is done.
NAWWWZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[JDMhatchback]

=/ sarcasm .......

[-=E36=-]

=/ sarcasm .......


lol I was using a st00pid technique.

Ryan :thumb:

[CHINGONE]

first off i use a apexi dc bov, and i love it, never had a problem, granted it is stupidly big, but im compensating for my small turbo, now im not gunna say f*ck tial!they make nice chet but 1g dsm owns you all, you can get one for a song and it will hold some boost like crazy,

[93 hatch]

But how in the hell do you get 800 HP out of a B16 or B18 (one of the two) especially with a stock block? I am in no way hating, I love seeing a good, powerful Honda motor as much as the next guy, I have just never heard of a B series making so much power. I would really like to know how this is done.
http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180063

sorry to get off topic but whanted to answer his question.

anyways, i think unless your makes big power like 500whp+ then it doesnt matter what you use as long as it works.

[iRIDEdumped]

$10 dsm bov for life :eekbunny:

[SecretAgent]

u guys are a lost cause. the fact that ya'll don't understand the signifigance of being able to run over 35psi, 9k rpm, and making over 800whp, but still only having one blow off valve proves it. try doing that with any other bov and see how that turns out for you.

[-=E36=-]

u guys are a lost cause. the fact that ya'll don't understand the signifigance of being able to run over 35psi, 9k rpm, and making over 800whp, but still only having one blow off valve proves it. try doing that with any other bov and see how that turns out for you.

I wont ever make more than half that much power so it really doesnt matter.

Ryan

[ON3GO]

I wont ever make more than half that much power so it really doesnt matter.

Ryan
amen i dont need 800whp to run 10's. lol.
400whp is plenty... and my blitz and vortech units do me fine.

mike

[NISMOsean]

Ive only had my Tial for 2 years now. Its sweet. I heard that som WRX people were having problem with the Blitz BOVs at 20+psi. They said they were leaky.

[HORSEPOWER CHEF]

u guys are a lost cause. the fact that ya'll don't understand the signifigance of being able to run over 35psi, 9k rpm, and making over 800whp, but still only having one blow off valve proves it. try doing that with any other bov and see how that turns out for you.

im pretty sure the turbonetics godzilla,bov can do the same thing.

what does rpm have to do with a bov?nothing


all a bov is designed to do is release air to prevent surge.the only difference is that some have a larger valve so they can release more air between shifts,which u need because more h/p dictates more air volume or pressure.

[JDMhatchback]

some bov's dont even hold high boost that well ....so no not all bov's are the same.

[HORSEPOWER CHEF]

some bov's dont even hold high boost that well ....so no not all bov's are the same.

knew id forget something.forgot to mention springs....

im eating.someone else field it

[Chris]

Rpms have to do with flow too.

[appleburger]

u guys are a lost cause. the fact that ya'll don't understand the signifigance of being able to run over 35psi, 9k rpm, and making over 800whp, but still only having one blow off valve proves it. try doing that with any other bov and see how that turns out for you.
if i was ever going to be running 35psi, i'd think about a tial. but there are plenty of other wg's that can handle that. i have no interest in having 800hp, i will be happy with around 300. but how many people on this board have 800hp? and of those, who is using a tial? the answer to both questions is not many.

[SecretAgent]

if i was ever going to be running 35psi, i'd think about a tial. but there are plenty of other wg's that can handle that. i have no interest in having 800hp, i will be happy with around 300. but how many people on this board have 800hp? and of those, who is using a tial? the answer to both questions is not many.


actually of the 5 or so members that have over 600whp and turbo, ALL are using TiAL

[-=E36=-]

I still dont see the big deal here. Most people dont start out with 500hp. They usually have/had a smaller setup that made less power. And it was probably on a "shitty" bov. A BOV is pretty much the cheapest part of the setup and upgrading that later on shouldnt be a big deal. For now my hks works great just like it would on any setup under 400hp.

Ryan

[appleburger]

actually of the 5 or so members that have over 600whp and turbo, ALL are using TiAL
then i stand corrected. but i've seen waaaaay too many 800+hp supras and things using countless other bov's to give any real validity to the statement that the tial is the only way to go.

[HORSEPOWER CHEF]

Rpms have to do with flow too.

not to a BOV..it has no clue if the engine is reving to 4k or 13k.all it knows is that there is more pressure in the i/c pipe than over the diaphram,so it opens the valve.

[HORSEPOWER CHEF]

then i stand corrected. but i've seen waaaaay too many 800+hp supras and things using dual hks's and countless other bov's to give any real validity to the statement that the tial is the only way to go.

as much as i hate turbonetics.becuz of this post now i wanna buy their godzilla bov.

[Widebandphillip]

hks ssqv 4 life.

[SecretAgent]

then i stand corrected. but i've seen waaaaay too many 800+hp supras and things using countless other bov's to give any real validity to the statement that the tial is the only way to go.


i never said tial was the only way to go, but let me give you this example. there was a 980whp supra that autologic worked on a couple years ago. it had two HKS SSQv's or whatever, and was having problems with compressor surge, boost leaks, and random misfires. they tried moving the bov's...no help. so after much convincing the customer agreed to replace them with one tial. the problems stopped, and the car actually made more power (due to holding boost better at higher rpm(where there is a lot more air flow)). this occurance has happened several times in the big horsepower cars. i've yet to see a tial be out flowed by ANY bov on the market. i've only heard of one being maxed out and that was an a 1300whp car, and even then, it only had one tial bov.

yes, other's work fine for lower hp apps, but if you want maximum power, and maximum reliability, the TiAL is your best bet.

[-=E36=-]

yes, other's work fine for lower hp apps, but if you want maximum power, and maximum reliability, the TiAL is your best bet.

Plus they looks nice and sound great. You left out the main purpose for a BOV.


























LOL j/k dude :kekegay:

Ryan

[93 hatch]

but seriously how many 500+whp import cars do you see out here(no supra's or 350z's)?

[SecretAgent]

but seriously how many 500+whp import cars do you see out here(no supra's or 350z's)?


i can name 20 right now. ur still missing the point.

[appleburger]

i get you. i guess when i first started making the argument i wasn't really thinking of higher hp cars, just the normal everyday turbo import.

[97accord]

i have a tial wastegate:) they are nice:)

[KHAN CONNECTION]

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