View Full Version : 240SX s13 Suspension Techniques Sway bars
SomeOne49
03-29-2005, 05:21 PM
like it says up top 240SX Suspension Techniques Sways any one have them?? like them?? hate them?? let me hear it!!! i want to buy them buy id like to hear from other 240/nissan owners their opinions...???
Thanks,
Anthony
nopwrsldr180
03-29-2005, 05:27 PM
ive got em. Had em i think for maybe...3ish years now, had the car for almost 5. I like em a lot. I think i had some trouble with installing the new brackets but it was nothing the harware store couldnt solve. If you want to go the fully adjustable route go whiteline. www.pdm-racing.com canadian boys that know their stuff, and are good ppl. Ive been autoX ing with them for a while now and they keep me competative. Really flatend the car out and somewhat simple install. I give em an 8 just because they are not adjustable.
~Sam
Whiteline is from Australia ;) but you're right that PDM-Racing Canadians are good people.
I'd go with the endlinks available from SPLParts.com, too.
nopwrsldr180
03-29-2005, 05:56 PM
Whiteline is from Australia ;) but you're right that PDM-Racing Canadians are good people.
I'd go with the endlinks available from SPLParts.com, too.
I didnt know where they were from. i was pointing him in a direction to get them from, and i pointed him in the canadian direction.
And i think i might need to invest in in those spl end links.
~Sam
I didnt know where they were from. i was pointing him in a direction to get them from, and i pointed him in the canadian direction.
And i think i might need to invest in in those spl end links.
~Sam
Yep, you got him in the right direction and that's all that counts ... get those endlinks because the stock type is pure slop.
FbodTrek
03-29-2005, 06:32 PM
Yep, you got him in the right direction and that's all that counts ... get those endlinks because the stock type is pure slop.
Here's a question, how much bigger are those swaybars, and how much would jsut upgrading those little endlinks help body roll? I know with 3rdgen Fbodys, the endlinks make quite a difference, then when you pop in some chromoly 36mm hollow front sways, and 29mm rears...the car won't ever body roll again (and will damn near corner perfectly flat at moderate speeds).
nopwrsldr180
03-29-2005, 08:44 PM
i have no idea exact specs, and i dont have the endlinks. so al?
~Sam
NismoFreakS14
03-29-2005, 09:16 PM
Here's a question, how much bigger are those swaybars, and how much would jsut upgrading those little endlinks help body roll? I know with 3rdgen Fbodys, the endlinks make quite a difference, then when you pop in some chromoly 36mm hollow front sways, and 29mm rears...the car won't ever body roll again (and will damn near corner perfectly flat at moderate speeds).
You can associate about 10 - 20% of the sway bars effective rate into end link movement. Completely worn endlinks can possibly reduce the rate further (30% or so).
Sway bars should be matched to spring rates, as they effectively add to the overall dynamic spring rate of the car.
Translation: You need thicker sways with stiffer springs or shortened shock travel.
i have no idea exact specs, and i dont have the endlinks. so al?
~Sam
My target's locked on those endlinks. I still have the gay standard endlinks for now, but they're not my priority.
SomeOne49
03-29-2005, 09:35 PM
awsome thanks for the info
SilviaS13Drift
03-29-2005, 09:56 PM
awsome thanks for the info
I've tried the Suspension techniques, I like the Tanabe over them... Just my opinion.. The Tanabe were a bit bigger than the ST's I believe Tanabe's measured out to be 31mm front, and 28mm in the rear.. on my S14, S13 i believe are 31 mm front, and 22mm rear. Thats 1 1/4 inch front, and and almost an inch in the rear. 7/8's i believe.
Choose Wisely :-)
~Michael
ADiamond240sx
03-29-2005, 10:37 PM
Anybody know the best place to get these sway bars at a good price ... cheap for an s14 .. I'm going broke
nopwrsldr180
03-29-2005, 11:13 PM
google sells everything.
google sells everything.
:rock:
ADiamond240sx
03-29-2005, 11:20 PM
google sells everything.
yeah, but do they sell it cheap?
NismoFreakS14
03-30-2005, 01:14 AM
Anybody know the best place to get these sway bars at a good price ... cheap for an s14 .. I'm going broke
www.splparts.com
NismoFreakS14
03-30-2005, 01:15 AM
I've tried the Suspension techniques, I like the Tanabe over them... Just my opinion.. The Tanabe were a bit bigger than the ST's I believe Tanabe's measured out to be 31mm front, and 28mm in the rear.. on my S14, S13 i believe are 31 mm front, and 22mm rear. Thats 1 1/4 inch front, and and almost an inch in the rear. 7/8's i believe.
Choose Wisely :-)
~Michael
Tanabe is oversized IMO.
Too much sway bar rate = snap oversteer / heavy understeer.
SomeOne49
03-30-2005, 06:55 AM
white line > ST i can get st for 300 for a set and white like prolly 350 + shipping is the 50 bucks worth it...??
white line > ST i can get st for 300 for a set and white like prolly 350 + shipping is the 50 bucks worth it...??
Whiteline is adjustable front and rear. In my opinion it's worth the extra money. Do you have S13 or S14, and what sort of suspension do you have on it currently?
HangNail
03-30-2005, 10:24 AM
im happy with my sustec sways in my civic and the price is too good to pass up. the install was a little tricky, but it was worth it. dont waste your time with links and bushings. just about any sway kit i can think of is going to come with a set.
SomeOne49
03-30-2005, 02:33 PM
Whiteline is adjustable front and rear. In my opinion it's worth the extra money. Do you have S13 or S14, and what sort of suspension do you have on it currently?
s13
with
kyb agx shocks, tein s-techs, greedy front tower strut, rear generic strut, Tein tie rods, j30 vlsd
NismoFreakS14
03-30-2005, 02:46 PM
s13
with
kyb agx shocks, tein s-techs, greedy front tower strut, rear generic strut, Tein tie rods, j30 vlsd
Cool some sways would get you squared away fast.
Whitelines ARE worth the extra 50.
Whitelines ARE worth the extra 50.
"Our bars stay harder, longer" is their official motto
ADiamond240sx
03-30-2005, 03:17 PM
Will they bolt on like the stock sway bar, or do you have to use the links?
SomeOne49
03-30-2005, 03:31 PM
dono...
NismoFreakS14
03-30-2005, 04:05 PM
Will they bolt on like the stock sway bar, or do you have to use the links?
They come with all the hardware.
SomeOne49
03-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Right on i think i will order them to day thank god for income tax return
i will keep yall updated on them
slideways2004
03-30-2005, 06:11 PM
i know whitelines are adjustable but what is exactly adjustable? over/under steer. bar stiffness?
Project240
03-30-2005, 09:14 PM
I was thinking about getting whiteline fronts, and tanabe rear's. Because when i do my suspension, i'll have nismo power brace, spl tension rods, KTS coilvoers, spl tie rods and tie rod ends.... pretty much a well built front end, and my friend who has a nismo power brace says he gets more understeer because his rear end isn't as stiff, so i was hoping that a larger swaybar in the rear (like the tanabe) would help to even it out. Because the only other optinos i have in the rear, is the rear subframe brace..... and that mod seems like a drift only mod.
What do you think?
SomeOne49
03-30-2005, 10:06 PM
I was thinking about getting whiteline fronts, and tanabe rear's. Because when i do my suspension, i'll have nismo power brace, spl tension rods, KTS coilvoers, spl tie rods and tie rod ends.... pretty much a well built front end, and my friend who has a nismo power brace says he gets more understeer because his rear end isn't as stiff, so i was hoping that a larger swaybar in the rear (like the tanabe) would help to even it out. Because the only other optinos i have in the rear, is the rear subframe brace..... and that mod seems like a drift only mod.
What do you think?
sounds good to me
slideways2004
03-30-2005, 10:16 PM
I was thinking about getting whiteline fronts, and tanabe rear's. Because when i do my suspension, i'll have nismo power brace, spl tension rods, KTS coilvoers, spl tie rods and tie rod ends.... pretty much a well built front end, and my friend who has a nismo power brace says he gets more understeer because his rear end isn't as stiff, so i was hoping that a larger swaybar in the rear (like the tanabe) would help to even it out. Because the only other optinos i have in the rear, is the rear subframe brace..... and that mod seems like a drift only mod.
What do you think?
the whiteline bars are 27mm front and 22 mm rear. how big are the tanabe?
ADiamond240sx
03-30-2005, 10:17 PM
the whiteline bars are 27mm front and 22 mm rear. how big are the tanabe?
30.4 and I think the rear is 24 or 26
Project240
04-01-2005, 12:57 AM
30.4 and I think the rear is 24 or 26
Yeah theyre close to 30mm.
So what do you guys think about the setup i listed?
NismoFreakS14
04-01-2005, 07:28 AM
I was thinking about getting whiteline fronts, and tanabe rear's. Because when i do my suspension, i'll have nismo power brace, spl tension rods, KTS coilvoers, spl tie rods and tie rod ends.... pretty much a well built front end, and my friend who has a nismo power brace says he gets more understeer because his rear end isn't as stiff, so i was hoping that a larger swaybar in the rear (like the tanabe) would help to even it out. Because the only other optinos i have in the rear, is the rear subframe brace..... and that mod seems like a drift only mod.
What do you think?
Stick with the Whiteline rear.
Your friend is associating tension rod reinforcement with understeer... the power prace really doesn't affect anything that could cause noticeable understeer other than the driver placebo effect of "stiffer = I can go faster".
SomeOne49
04-05-2005, 05:14 PM
I got the white lines but havent put them on... i dont know how to set the settings on them... any one have any sujestions or experince with them. Last time i did a auto-x corse i was undersearing really bad but my tires sucked ass. so i dont know what to set them at. Help please??
NismoFreakS14
04-05-2005, 05:59 PM
I got the white lines but havent put them on... i dont know how to set the settings on them... any one have any sujestions or experince with them. Last time i did a auto-x corse i was undersearing really bad but my tires sucked ass. so i dont know what to set them at. Help please??
What is the rest of your suspension setup?
SomeOne49
04-05-2005, 06:02 PM
Kyb agx all around with s-tech springs greedy front tower strut and generic rear tower and tein tie rods also 16/8 mesh wheels
SomeOne49
04-06-2005, 12:57 PM
Any help..?
NismoFreakS14
04-06-2005, 01:08 PM
Get them, put them on the car. Adjust from there.
Rear Stiffer - More Oversteer
Front Stiffer - More Understeer
Rear Softer - More Understeer
Front Softer - More Oversteer
SomeOne49
04-06-2005, 04:48 PM
I think that i will put the on the highest setting on rear and front and if i am experinceing over or understeer i will adjust accordingly sence i am doing the scca auto-x april 25. Thanks for all yalls help and i will kepp yall updated.
TIREKILLER
04-06-2005, 05:16 PM
Hey Ya'll, I have the Whitelines on my car (S13) and i love them. I have mine set to the stiffer of the two settings on the rear and the middle (of three)setting on the front. Works well for me so far. Only thing you might consider is that the new stiffer bar may be too much for your stock sway bar bushing bracket (the one that holds the bar to the frame). I have already torn one stock bracket, and am now going to be producing some heavy duty ones. If your interested let me know.
Oh yeah and the SPL solid adj. end links rock too.
Hey Ya'll, I have the Whitelines on my car (S13) and i love them. I have mine set to the stiffer of the two settings on the rear and the middle (of three)setting on the front. Works well for me so far. Only thing you might consider is that the new stiffer bar may be too much for your stock sway bar bushing bracket (the one that holds the bar to the frame). I have already torn one stock bracket, and am now going to be producing some heavy duty ones. If your interested let me know.
Oh yeah and the SPL solid adj. end links rock too.
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