anyone use kyb agx struts?

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how big of a drop did you have with them? reason im asking is because im getting ready to upgrade my suspension and i want to know what will handle a pretty big drop like the one i have. oh and suggestions are appreciated as well. my budget is 700. thanks

[turbob18rex]

i run mine with tien springs but the only have a 2in drop good shocks...you can get really good deals for them on ebay....very happy with mine :rock:

[SpoonDC5]

they are good for at least a 2 1/2 drop. my friend had them on his civic si and they were awesome!! the only thing i didnt like about them was that they were 8 in the rear and only 4 way in th front. but with tokico illuminas u get 5 way all around.

[YesSiR]

that's weird my friends AGX shocks were 4 way all the way around that he ordered but yea they are a great shock for the buck if you don't have Koni cash/dampening kit money to burn

[SomeOne49]

i have the agx with tein s-tech they work great for me

[sw20turbo]

KYB Agx Warranty will be voided with a drop lower than 1.5"

[YesSiR]

KYB Agx Warranty will be voided with a drop lower than 1.5"
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[cobyk]

KYB Agx Warranty will be voided with a drop lower than 1.5"

so tell them that you had a 1.5" drop :dunno:

[sw20turbo]

so tell them that you had a 1.5" drop :dunno:

"A careful inspection of the AGX® unit will help you reveal abuses that can void the KYB product warranty. Here are some examples of product damage on AGX® shocks caused by misuse and/or modification:

KYB AGX® unit with springseat reversed to accommodate a shorter spring.

Small diameter coil spring markings on the standard springseat reveal use of a small diameter coilover spring.

KYB unit with springseat reversed to accommodate a shorter spring.

Markings on the standard springseat show it was used to support a coilover kit.

Bayonet style lower mount (e.g. Honda and Mitsubishi front end) with "push through" markings due to excessive bottoming-out.

Standard springseat is ground away to provide clearance for a coilover kit threaded collar.

Small diameter coil spring markings on the standard spring seat show use of a small diameter coilover spring.

Rubber deposits on the striker plate (black color) indicate excessive bottoming and seal damage."

http://www.kyb.com/service/warranty.php#5



Im guessing KYB gets lots of shocks and have their ways of telling if it has been misused. Plus you should get a shock that can handle the drop you want that way you dont have to worry as much about having it serviced.

[cobyk]

or just get a full coilover set up ... youll be much happier ... you could def. find something for 700 ... tein basics are down to like 550 these days ... i have them and i love them ...

[chzcake01]

i have tokico illuminas and they work really really well. got them for less than 350 delivered from ebay.

[slammed00si]

i have them on my hatch with itr springs. they are ok but not the best. to me they are better for daily driving then my old tein flex coilovers. ohh yeah did i mention they were dirt cheap.(that influenced my decision)

[slammed00si]

or just get a full coilover set up ... youll be much happier ... you could def. find something for 700 ... tein basics are down to like 550 these days ... i have them and i love them ...

the problem with that is they are way to stiff. and the cheaper ones are just plain crappy. unless you track your car then there really is no need for them. i learned the hard way trust me.

[YesSiR]

the problem with that is they are way to stiff. and the cheaper ones are just plain crappy. unless you track your car then there really is no need for them. i learned the hard way trust me.
Tein Flex spring rates are high as god knows what for a street application they go all the way up to 500+lbs so you chose a bad app for H-town streets the first time around. IT's not Tein itself it's the kit you chose

SS kit has a 300ish spring rate adverage for civics which is close to most aftermarket spring rates of respectable companies and the Basic i'm sure is pretty close if not a lil lower than the SS kit

but yea if you do look into buying a coilover kit look for something with a 300ish range spring rate, otherwise you'll get a really nice grip on the road but once you get to a frequently uneven surface you'll be cryin about how horrible the ride is. if you're not hardcore about handling just get a spring/shock combo and call it a day man you'll be happy and if you get fed up with the ride being too soft or too hard you can always make that good ol adjustment to another spring rate :thumb:

[YesSiR]

just to give you an idea of what is a large part of ride quality/solidness outside of the shock (though the shock does play a bigger part handling stability wise) here's an example of what i was tryin to explain earlier.......

stock spring rates on a 92-95 civic are aprox 250ish front/150ish rear

tein S-tech are 210 front / 140 rear ("dress" master indeed)

now as for tein dampening kits the basic is 390front / 170 rear (no dampening adj.)

SSkit is the exact same but allows for 16 points of adjustment

Flex kit is a whoppin 500lbs front/ 220 rear with i believe 32 points of adjustment for dampening and with the flex kit you have the option of increasing or decreasing the spring rates by as much as +- 110lbs in the front and +110/-60 in the rear

and nedless to say the higher you go kit wise the higher the spring rates will go the less streetable a DD car will become

sorry for the ass long writeup but everytime i see someone pop questions that are spring/shock related no one ever points out the importance of spring rates in terms of performance/feel

they have spring rates for other cars as well i just used my car as an example to give you an idea of what you should use as a factor for shock/spring matching most companies can tell you what spring rates work best with their shocks so that you have to do less guessing on the kind fo performance/ride you're gonna get out of your car oh and spring rates can be swapped on all the other kits as well same for SS as the flex and the basic can only increase by about +- 60lbs/in.

[appleburger]

i have agx's with tein springs on my mr2 and like them a lot. the number of adjustment settings varies from car to car. the tein springs dropped my car a good 2" and they do fine.

[icemanimports]

agx's are stout i been running those with 8kg in the back and 10kg up front and about a 3 inch drop for about a year now no leaks that i can tell but the ride is hella hard

[slammed00si]

CivicDrivinG you also forgot to mention the importance of what type of spring you have. progressive or linear. i dont think i chose the wrong system. because it was fine for me. it just got to the point where it was really to stiff for the roads. my handleing actualy decreased on anything but glass smooth roads. that was with adjusting the shocks height and preload to get the best combo. ever since i changed to type r springs with agx shocks. i have a lot less understeer. this is probably do to the fact that the flex system has really high front rates but low back rates .for flex it was 503 front and 300back linear for the itr springs it is 250front progressive 250 back linear.as stated earlier it is up to the person buying the shock/spring or coilovers. also it is good to find someone who actualy understands a suspension other then to drop a car.

[YesSiR]

CivicDrivinG you also forgot to mention the importance of what type of spring you have. progressive or linear. i dont think i chose the wrong system. because it was fine for me. it just got to the point where it was really to stiff for the roads. my handleing actualy decreased on anything but glass smooth roads. that was with adjusting the shocks height and preload to get the best combo. ever since i changed to type r springs with agx shocks. i have a lot less understeer. this is probably do to the fact that the flex system has really high front rates but low back rates .for flex it was 503 front and 300back linear for the itr springs it is 250front progressive 250 back linear.as stated earlier it is up to the person buying the shock/spring or coilovers. also it is good to find someone who actualy understands a suspension other then to drop a car.
yea i did forget to mention that. I'm still learning a lot myself but seeing as you had the flex kit i was pointing out how high the spring rates were with the flex kit which i could see causing what you said happened which was the decrease in handling on roads that aren't smooth. that's what i was prewarning him about and the ITR spring rate is a nice spring rate to work with but yea flex is a bit much for Daily driving i agree. I'll have to do more reading up on the effects of progressive Vs. Linear functionality wise.