going ls any suggestions on turbo setups

[civicguy5711]

doing a ls swap in my car and im thinking of turboing it soon after i brake it in i was wondering if i should do a ls/ vtec first or just run boost without the vtec umm any advice or suggestions would be appreciated thanks

[duc]

doing a ls swap in my car and im thinking of turboing it soon after i brake it in i was wondering if i should do a ls/ vtec first or just run boost without the vtec umm any advice or suggestions would be appreciated thanks

run boost without the vtec

[civicguy5711]

but why though for what reason does it make it faster without vtec an explanation would be nice :thumb:

[tiedupfool]

yes, go with a t-88 turbo with absolutely no EMS, no upgraded injectors, no intercooler, manual boost controller with autozone boost gauge, running 40 psi, no blow-off valve, and extra sugar in the gas tank to raise your octane.

just kidding . .. stick with no vtech and go full boost !

[x-VAR]

Just upgrade your cams and you have vtec :thumb:

[VolksFaggin]

Do you have a daily driver?

If so, rip the motor apart, do it right with good internals, boost it and be fast. Build your own kit, its not hard to source the parts and then you know whats going in your car. Good luck pal!

[turbohead]

Just upgrade your cams and you have vtec :thumb:
interesting....explain

are the cams gona be streetable?

[ErIK]

You could go with one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7962119210&category=33627&sspagename=WDVW
:kekegay:
j/k...
I think that an LS powerplant has a lot of potencial, just save those $1000 or more your are going to spend on the swap and use it on the LS

[Sry0fcr]

interesting....explain

are the cams gona be streetable?

Depends on the cam profile. VTEC is overrated IMHO it's just 2 cam profiles on one cam one for the daily grind and the other for some fun. Throw a decent cam in an LS and you basically have VTEC all the time. As far as LS/VTEC is concerned, the reason VTEC heads make more power than a non VTEC head is because the VTEC heads flow so much better and the VTEC profile is more aggressive than the stock B18B stuff. Get a mild cam for the B18B head, get some good headwork and turbo that bitch. Then get vanity plates that say FKVTEC. :kekegay:

[DA_LsVtAk]

Depends on the cam profile. VTEC is overrated IMHO it's just 2 cam profiles on one cam one for the daily grind and the other for some fun. Throw a decent cam in an LS and you basically have VTEC all the time. As far as LS/VTEC is concerned, the reason VTEC heads make more power than a non VTEC head is because the VTEC heads flow so much better and the VTEC profile is more aggressive than the stock B18B stuff. Get a mild cam for the B18B head, get some good headwork and turbo that bitch. Then get vanity plates that say FKVTEC. :kekegay:



my thoughts exactly, get some nice cams and P&P that head and ur ready to boost all day long at a steady 7-10 psi on stock pistons.
ls low compression + nice decent turbo setup= your new best friend

[maurob18a1]

if your going to go turbo, I recommend Neptune tuning... Its new, but man is it AWSOME!!! I have it on my LS teg and the car screams... Call Autologic for more information

[JDMhatchback]

if i had money i'd go vtec. plus u make more power up top.

[Co0lDood]

stick with no vtec.. ls = low compressionl, long gears. no point on wasten the money on ls/vtec

[Silverbeast]

If you keep the LS, get the sc44 and be done with it at about 8psi. Works great.... made over 200 and 160tq on BONE stock LS.

[Teh_Gonz]

I had a simple turbo setup on my ls and it ran fine for a long while. It wasn't bad, its cheap and you get a nice boost experiance but now my GSR is calling me and im in the process of doing a 300+ hp build. I ended that stock set up with 255 hp and 225 tq on a 50 trim t3/to4e and it was good to beat up on some people. Turbo ls isn't bad at all.

[93 hatch]

ls/vtec
$400 head
$50 dizz
$350 eagle's ls/vtec convertion kit
$100 arp rodbolts (going to need it to rev it to 8k otherwise Boom)
$900 TOTAL (est. not exact)
and lets not add the labor charge if you dont know how to do it.

with those $900 bux or so you can buy some pistons and rods and now you can turn up the psi. in the end the non-vtec motor will be faster then the ls/vtec.

now you decide. good luck.

[93 hatch]

I had a simple turbo setup on my ls and it ran fine for a long while. It wasn't bad, its cheap and you get a nice boost experiance but now my GSR is calling me and im in the process of doing a 300+ hp build. I ended that stock set up with 255 hp and 225 tq on a 50 trim t3/to4e and it was good to beat up on some people. Turbo ls isn't bad at all.
a stock ls motor can take 300+ whp if tuned right. ive seen it done many times. dont see why you decide to go gsr when you could of sticked to ls. you should of built that ls insted.

[Teh_Gonz]

a stock ls motor can take 300+ whp if tuned right. ive seen it done many times. dont see why you decide to go gsr when you could of sticked to ls. you should of built that ls insted.


My stock ls was making 250 and the ringlands cracked if the ringlands cracked at 250 what makes you think that it can take 300 for a long period of time. The ls block i had was fresh too it was bored .20 over with oem oversized pistons i can't bore a stock block any more than .20 for turbo i could risk it and go .40 but i don't want to. Yes 300 is possibe and yes i could do it but why so it can blow again no thanks Im not going cheap on this time around. Really how long do you think 300 on a ls can last even if it can last that's it you have no more room to grow you get beat and stay beat with that set-up. A gsr has plenty of room to grow even if they were both built the same the gsr would still put out more power.

[JDMhatchback]

a stock ls motor can take 300+ whp if tuned right. ive seen it done many times. dont see why you decide to go gsr when you could of sticked to ls. you should of built that ls insted.
im thinking thats a pretty agressive tune. if you have money vtec!!

[Teh_Gonz]

im thinking thats a pretty agressive tune. if you have money vtec!!


This man is the ls king!

[DA_LsVtAk]

doing LS/vtec is a good platform for going all motor mainly because it will allow you to make more power top end, but if you want to do a turbo setup a fully built LS will have just as good results, not to mention that a LS/vtec setup is best with a B16 tranny or GSR tranny.... i would go FULL LS with no vtec influence at all not many people do that but with some nice low comp pistons and good rods with a built head u can tune it to close to 400 hp then focus on delivering that power to the ground

[JDMhatchback]

but with a vtec head you can make more power and better high end.

[turboteg]

vtec will yield more power in the end, if you have the money.

[93 hatch]

My stock ls was making 250 and the ringlands cracked if the ringlands cracked at 250 what makes you think that it can take 300 for a long period of time. The ls block i had was fresh too it was bored .20 over with oem oversized pistons i can't bore a stock block any more than .20 for turbo i could risk it and go .40 but i don't want to. Yes 300 is possibe and yes i could do it but why so it can blow again no thanks Im not going cheap on this time around. Really how long do you think 300 on a ls can last even if it can last that's it you have no more room to grow you get beat and stay beat with that set-up. A gsr has plenty of room to grow even if they were both built the same the gsr would still put out more power.
i just whanted to let him know that it can make big power on a stock ls, i know it probably wont last as long but ive seen them last for more then six months.
i just think if he already has a complete ls then just stick with it. instead of doing a ls/vtec just build the ls instead. and yes I am aware that a vtec motor will out porform the non-vtec motor but its not worth the money. how much can you gain going from ls turbo to ls/vtec turbo? 50whp at the most?(if that) now is about $900(est.) worth that extra 50 whp?
if you do whant that 50whp i say just get that ls head pnp and your set. also vtec parts are expensive.

[93 hatch]

and as far as your car not handaling 250hp i dont know what to say. Lots of things could of caused it. maybe bad luck?

[DA_LsVtAk]

but getting back on topic this guy wants to know what good turbo setups there are, with a barebones setup i would go with a 18g or a decent t3/t4, custom manifold with a tial wastegate, some DSM or bigger injectors, FPR and a SAFC, whatever BOV makes you happy. charge pipes from a local shop and since your on a stock LS a normal intercooler will do http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=7968311972&rd=1
no boost controller since you can set a spring at 6-8 PSI and have steady boost plus thats less vacume lines to run, a small autometer boost gauge, and a fuel ratio gauge since the odds of you running rich are pretty high you dont want to kill your cat once you get a exaust built, and a nice downpipe im sure any shop can make if u bring the flange for the exaust turbo..

i would also recomend MSD and a new clutch

all in all it shouldnt cost no more than about $1300 to build a decently nice turbo setup, add another $3-400 and you can get hondata and tune it right :thumb:

[houstonboy]

ls turbo....probably a good mid-high 13s

[JDMhatchback]

depends on the setup. you can surely go low 13's.

[SIDEXIT]

build your internals.. and your ready to go

[turboteg]

depends on the setup. you can surely go low 13's.

I know I did