Astros offer Beltran 5yr/$70 million

[5plusjuan]

Meant to post this up earlier. What are ya'lls takes on it? I think its a rather insulting offer, but then again its only an opening offer. I think Beltran will command at least $20 million a year if you want to sign him.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/hou/news/hou_news.jsp?ymd=20041206&content_id=919082&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp


HOUSTON -- The Astros have offered free agent center fielder Carlos Beltran $70 million over five years to re-sign with the team, a Houston television station reported Monday night.
KRIV-TV, citing unidentified sources, reported that the Astros have submitted a contract offer guaranteeing the switch-hitter an average annual base salary of $14 million through the 2009 season. The contract, which also includes additional bonuses for performance-based achievements, would make Beltran the second-highest player in franchise history behind four-time All-Star first baseman Jeff Bagwell.

Astros general manager Tim Purpura does not discuss or confirm offers or reported offers.

Purpura, however, has made clear his intention to attempt to re-sign Beltran, as well as free agents Roger Clemens and Jeff Kent.

"We've had a number of discussions with Scott Boras about Carlos Beltran," said Purpura. "We've had a number of discussions with Jeff Klein about Jeff Kent. We've had a number of discussions with the Hendricks [brothers, Randy and Alan] about Roger Clemens. We're also talking with (the agents for) Orlando Palmeiro and Russ Springer.

"But we're not going to comment on whether an offer has or has not been made to Carlos or any of the free agents we're talking to."

If the Astros do not re-sign or offer arbitration to Clemens, Beltran or Kent by midnight ET on Tuesday, they would lose the rights to negotiate or sign them until May 1.

Beltran's agent, Scott Boras, could not be reached for comment. Boras had previously said he was seeking a 10-year deal for his client.

Beltran told MLB.com over the weekend that he was considering his options and confirmed hearing from eight teams: the Astros, Phillies, Mariners, Yankees, Mets, Angels, Orioles and Cubs.

Beltran, 27, hit a combined .267 with 38 home runs and 104 RBIs for Kansas City and the Astros in 2004. He also stole 42 bases in 45 attempts, including 28 in as many attempts for the Astros.

Beltran made the All-Star team and turned in one of the greatest individual playoff efforts in history, hitting .435 with eight homers and 14 RBIs in 12 games to help the Astros reach the National League Championship Series. The slugger was paid $9 million for 2004, a $3 million raise over what the Royals paid him in 2003.

Bagwell, who holds several franchise records including 446 home runs and 1,510 RBIs, signed the most lucrative contract in franchise history when he inked a five-year, $85 million ($70 million plus a $15 million signing bonus) extension in 2001. Bagwell will be paid $15 million next season and $17 million in 2006.

[hybridhatch]

we will have to dish out more cash for him. hopefully he stays!

[MoToHeAd125]

I wish i could make $70 mil in 5 yrs just to hit some balls around.

[infamous_ikon]

bottom line..., we need him 2 stay in town

[mr toolio]

this sport is just ridiculous. i dont remember when it use to be about the game, rather than the money. I think the olympics is the only time when its about the sport.

Adam

[Vincent]

Why Palmeiro? I guess Springer had his nights (hardly), but we can definitely find a better pinch hitter than Palmeiro.

Unless he's getting picked up for pocket change.

[ninjapleazee]

i lost respect for the game since the steroids controversy.. you never know who actually can hit and who is juiced up

[adam gs-r]

this sport is just ridiculous. i dont remember when it use to be about the game, rather than the money. I think the olympics is the only time when its about the sport.

Adam
Nope. Winning a gold medal = $$$.

[Arram]

Astros offer Beltran $81 million

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2935847

[lyttleviet]

Bagwell wants to stay the highest paid Astro..

[Smashin']

They need to take that 70 million and fix our damn roads in houston.

[*ChRiStInA_MaRiE*]

They need to take that 70 million and fix our damn roads in houston.
if they do that he wont be here. came on smashin we need to keep these cute latinos here in h-town

[All-Star]

hes problably going to go with yankees that bastard...

[mr toolio]

Nope. Winning a gold medal = $$$.

still man, being in the olympics is a big thing for people. winning a gold and represent their country is what counts.

Adam

[Smashin']

if they do that he wont be here. came on smashin we need to keep these cute latinos here in h-town
I know mama, but Mr. Beltran isnt gonna fix my tires 26 times a year and its not about the game anymore, its about money and that is so BOO.

[ML'S Z28]

That is the Astros starting offer just to get other teams to start submitting bids too.
The Astros know it is going to take more than 81 million to keep him.

[*ChRiStInA_MaRiE*]

with all these guys on h-i that are googoo over you cant you get them to buy new tires for you?

[Mr.TxHustla]

shit give me 70 million and ill send my uncle to play for the stros..he can! he tears up those batting cages at chucky cheese!

[nuWest]

he wont stay with the astros, i think he'll end up in anaheim.

but i hope he goes to the cubs :kekegay:

:eekbunny:

[nuWest]

I know mama, but Mr. Beltran isnt gonna fix my tires 26 times a year and its not about the game anymore, its about money and that is so BOO.
neither are the astros, since its their money they are paying beltran, not the city of houstons. :o

:eekbunny:

[Bryan]

he wont stay with the astros, i think he'll end up in anaheim.

but i hope he goes to the cubs :kekegay:

:eekbunny:
angels arent interested

[5plusjuan]

angels arent interested


lol, you're kidding right? Angels are probably #1 on Beltran's list, but I still speculate that the Yankees will make a very strong run and offer for Beltran. This all depends on the outcome of the Jason Giambi situation and if the Yanks can get his contract voided. I believe the astros will make a last ditch effort of between $16-18 million a year for beltran when its all said and done.

[Bryan]

lol, you're kidding right? Angels are probably #1 on Beltran's list, but I still speculate that the Yankees will make a very strong run and offer for Beltran. This all depends on the outcome of the Jason Giambi situation and if the Yanks can get his contract voided. I believe the astros will make a last ditch effort of between $16-18 million a year for beltran when its all said and done.
The Angels are number 1 on HIS list, but Anaheim isn't anywhere near as interested in him or his contract hopes that Houston or Chicago or New York are.

There isn't much NY can do about Giabi's contract. If they ever tried the players association would shit down their throats so fast it wouldn't even be funny. The Yankees will already be over $200 million this season without Beltran, and a 40% salaray tax. I don't think Steinbrenner considers Beltran the icing on the cake to a championship win that is worth paying $300 million for.

[nuWest]

we would all be suprised at what steinbrenner will do for another world series. but i really hope he goes to the cubs :) but they expect to sign nomar again here in the near future, todd walker, and hopefully the cubs can make a good run at JD Drew.

[cent]

I just think Its ridiculous how much money we spend on sports. Not that Im not a fan or anything, but damn we could really use that money for better things. *runsawaybeforegettingflammed*

[K UU G]

:cross:

[nuWest]

I just think Its ridiculous how much money we spend on sports. Not that Im not a fan or anything, but damn we could really use that money for better things. *runsawaybeforegettingflammed*
im not flaming you or anything, i just want to know why ppl think that, i mean, its not "our" money, its the owners money. its not like they are going to give it to the city/county/state/country. so either way, we wouldnt get anything for it, hehe.

:eekbunny:

[jhonda04]

Bagwell wants to stay the highest paid Astro..

bagwell didn't do shit during the playoffs. we need to do whatever it takes to keep beltran. :rock:

[adam gs-r]

we need to do whatever it takes to keep beltran. :rock:

Exactly what I was going to type.

[crunK]

I'll play for any team for $70 Million for 5 years.

[adam gs-r]

I'll do unspeakable acts for $70million for 5 years.

[nuWest]

I'll play for any team for $70 Million for 5 years.
i just want a 10 day contract, haha :kekegay:

:eekbunny:

[Pr3Lud3PLaYa]

lol, you're kidding right? Angels are probably #1 on Beltran's list, but I still speculate that the Yankees will make a very strong run and offer for Beltran. This all depends on the outcome of the Jason Giambi situation and if the Yanks can get his contract voided. I believe the astros will make a last ditch effort of between $16-18 million a year for beltran when its all said and done.
Yankees: Don't need him, hitting won't get them another championship, their pitching needs improvement and that is a fact. Everybody should understand that.
Angels:Not interested for that much money.
Cubs and Astros will probably land him and I hope the Astros keep him. Fuck the Cubs.

[lube'd]

Man, Glaus is off the market now. If the Stros don't get to sign Beltran, then they are pretty much screwed. Hope Drew and Beltre are still interested in playing for us.

[ML'S Z28]

Drew and Beltre have the same agent as Beltran.
The biggest hard ass in the business..... Scott Boras.
If you want one of his clients but ready to overpay.

[nuWest]

Yankees: Don't need him, hitting won't get them another championship, their pitching needs improvement and that is a fact. Everybody should understand that.
Angels:Not interested for that much money.
Cubs and Astros will probably land him and I hope the Astros keep him. Fuck the Cubs.
yeah fuck the cubs! :rock:

[lube'd]

Drew and Beltre have the same agent as Beltran.
The biggest hard ass in the business..... Scott Boras.
If you want one of his clients but ready to overpay.

Yes I know they do but they really want to play for the Astros and are more likely to take less money to play along side Pettite, Clemens (maybe), Miller, and Lidge.

[ElMeroMero03]

They should give Beltran a good fair offer but not anything thats too much like 18 or 19 million a year. I mean shit one player isn't gonna do everything for the whole team. Just remember what happen to the Rangers when they signed Arod for 25 mil a year, they couldn't do shit be his contract fucked up the Rangers. Hopefully the Astros can sign Beltran and still have room and flexiblity to sign other players in the future.

[ML'S Z28]

Yes I know they do but they really want to play for the Astros and are more likely to take less money to play along side Pettite, Clemens (maybe), Miller, and Lidge.


I've never seen a Boras client take less than market value. In fact, his clients set the market value.

If someone in his stable actually takes less to come here, I will be shocked.
There are a few owners who won't even negoitiate w/ a Boras client because his demands are beyond what most consider "reasonable".

But you never know :thumb:

[lube'd]

GJ, now Finley is gone.

[nuWest]

I mean shit one player isn't gonna do everything for the whole team.
dont forget what he did in the post season, he single handedly won every game for the astros. :o

:eekbunny:

[ElMeroMero03]

dont forget what he did in the post season, he single handedly won every game for the astros. :o

:eekbunny:
I know what he did in the post season. He just got hot at the right time. Players get streaks. But cmon he isn't gonna win every game for the Astros. Its a combination of good pitching, good hitting, and just playing team ball. Even if he is hot in the post season teams are smarter now and wont let him have a chance to hit the ball like they did this past year. All I'm saying is that he is good player but the Astros shouldn't blow all their money on just to keep him. I mean I would love to have him play for the Astros but one player doesn't make the whole team.

[hyperenergy]

before i die i would like to see the team i grew up loving go to the world seriies and win and everybody know thats these players arent getting any younger god damn old bastards

[nuWest]

^^^me2 hopefully the cubs win next season :kekegay: :hs: :rock:


I know what he did in the post season. He just got hot at the right time. Players get streaks. But cmon he isn't gonna win every game for the Astros. Its a combination of good pitching, good hitting, and just playing team ball. Even if he is hot in the post season teams are smarter now and wont let him have a chance to hit the ball like they did this past year. All I'm saying is that he is good player but the Astros shouldn't blow all their money on just to keep him. I mean I would love to have him play for the Astros but one player doesn't make the whole team.i think he is worth alot more than bagwell, and since bagwell and biggio are gonna be gone soon enough, so that will free up enough loot.

:eekbunny:

[5plusjuan's bro]

Dude you need to understand that the astros have never ever in the history of their franchise had a player of this caliber. He can do it all. he and him alone might be the difference between clemens resigning and retiring. He deserves 15 million a year and honestly the astros have offered it to him with the 91 million over 6 years. Id sure as hell rather spend that type of money on beltran than a-rod, or jeter os sosa. His attitude and work ethic are great. He is a great team player who has a lot of dedication to the game and achievements. I can honestly say, if the astros dont resign him the clemens will retire, the only way he will pitch is if he feels he has a chance to win a world series. Keep up with the news on astros.com and maybe you will learn a thing or too. would you rather have jose cruz jr. in center field or beltran?

[5plusjuan]

Rene is gay.

[5plusjuan's bro]

eyyyy lonnieee(johnny) is a mama chilles joto.

[nuWest]

i just want someone that needs him to sign him, i would hate for a team like the yankees with the best cast in the MLB, to sign him.

[w00denbat]

espn.com said that it's down to us and the yanks. Anaheim picked up Finley, so they don't need him anymore. Hopefully Beltran WANTS to stay here, but you never know. Also on espn.com Clemens said that Beltran and Pettite will determine whether or not he comes back, and Pettite's already here, so...if we don't get Beltran we don't get Clemens. And Beltran's not worth it? What was the 'Stros record before Beltran...then after? If Beltran were to play on a winning team (unlike the Royals) he could very easily get considered for MVP. He wants alot of money, but it was said that he'd be willing to settle for 15 mil per year (which is still alot!) I don't know why the Stros won't give him a ten year deal, he's 27. Baseball is the one sport where players can play consistantly at a high level into their forties, think Barry Bonds (juice or not, steroids don't give you the perfect swing), Nolan Ryan, shit Rocket, Unit, there's a number of people. If the Astros don't get him, the organization is going to lose alot of respect, and we're not in the market to get anybody else because we're strictly focusing on him and Clemens, so there's no point to not spend the cheddar. Superman rox my sox.

[5plusjuan]

i just want someone that needs him to sign him, i would hate for a team like the yankees with the best cast in the MLB, to sign him.


I would love for the Yanks to get him, that would be great!!! Would complement the newly acquired Pavano very nicely. :thumb:

[nuWest]

i think they spend enough money. besides, the cubs NEED him :p

[Bryan]

i think they spend enough money. besides, the cubs NEED him :p
The Cubs are already at 90 million next season. They aren't getting shit unless they place Sosa elsewhere.

It is down to the Yankees and Houston, and his devil agent Scott Boras has repeated that he wants 10 years / 200 million to START negotiations. NY has said no to that. Their offer will be a 5 year, 70 million one most likely. The closer it gets to the deadline for Houston the bigger their offer will get as they don't want to lose him for nothing.

I think its a load of crap the way Boras is dealing with this. Waiting until basically the very end of the off season before considering any realistic deals. Beltran said he wants to stay in Houston, so why not negotiate a deal now instead of being a bitch and forcing everyone to wait it out. Greedy fuck.

[nuWest]

The Cubs are already at 90 million next season. They aren't getting shit unless they place Sosa elsewhere.
yeah i wish the cubs would make a decent effort to trade him away, shit if all else fails then they should just get rid of him, cause that nga is a big sorry baby. trade him for a minor leaguer just to get rid of his contract then make a run for beltran :p

when you have nothing but real big money clients, you can afford to deal the way he is, because demand is obviously bigger than supply.

:eekbunny:

[Trae*]

whether he plays or not we will know for sure by jan 8th

[Bryan]

whether he plays or not we will know for sure by jan 8th
fuck waiting, sign that hombre now!

[ML'S Z28]

The Cubs are already at 90 million next season. They aren't getting shit unless they place Sosa elsewhere.

It is down to the Yankees and Houston, and his devil agent Scott Boras has repeated that he wants 10 years / 200 million to START negotiations. NY has said no to that. Their offer will be a 5 year, 70 million one most likely. The closer it gets to the deadline for Houston the bigger their offer will get as they don't want to lose him for nothing.

I think its a load of crap the way Boras is dealing with this. Waiting until basically the very end of the off season before considering any realistic deals. Beltran said he wants to stay in Houston, so why not negotiate a deal now instead of being a bitch and forcing everyone to wait it out. Greedy fuck.

That's why Bor-ass is the devil. No way in hell Beltran gets anywhere near 200 million.... No one will ever get an A-rod type deal.

[5plusjuan]

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!

[5plusjuan]

heheheheh, beltran who??

[Nato76]

Yankees what?

[5plusjuan]

Yankees what?

yes i know, they didnt make it, but they do have 26 world titles from when they did make it, :2cooleek: :2cooleek:

my dream world series is only half complete with the astros making it........ :thumb: :thumb:

[Poonkla]

IBTL/IBTB

[S.T.F.U.]

http://www.cafetrends.com/gallery/images/6/4/6/ASTROS_495239.gif

Just thought I'd post my gif again! FUCK YOU BELTRAN!! :)

[Poonkla]

Mods, lock this other one he bumped: http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3768254

[5plusjuan]

IBTL/IBTB


:stare: :stare: , yeah right, get out of here astros hater.

[5plusjuan]

Mods, lock this other one he bumped: http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3768254


hey you idiot, i bumped them for a reason stupid shit.....get off my verga.