What should the Rockets do?

[lube'd]

I think the problem is the coach, his philosophy sucks. He says that he wants the team to run more but I think he doesn't REALLY mean it. His half-court offense sucks IMO. But who could replace him?

[All-Star]

Fire van gundy and get Phil Jackson

[adam gs-r]

Who cares? :dunno:


Rockets suck. GO Spurs GO!

[omgodzilla]

I don't care for basketball anymore.

[lube'd]

Come on now, this is what everyone said when the Astros were losing. Don't come jumping on the bandwagon later.

[blink]

i really dont know but watching the rockets play is horrible. theyre usually within winning distance and they lose it in the 4th quater like always (even before the tmac trade).

[All-Star]

that game where t-mac had 48 and the german guy had 50 somethin was great

[Leon]

GO ROCKETS

I will be a Rockets fan no matter how many games they lose. :(

[Pr3Lud3PLaYa]

I couldn't honestly say what is going on. They seem to have a game in hand or are within reach of winnining and then they lose it. I don't know what they are doing wrong and I don't know if Van Gundy is to blame. His stance is on defense but it seems like his offensive strategies don't seem to be what they should be at. T-Mac and Yao should be tearing it up also and they do at times but the other guys have to help. I don't know, it just seems dissapointing. Hopefully, it is just a chemistry problem and them playing together for a bit longer could help. I hope.

[5plusjuan]

GO ROCKETS

I will be a Rockets fan no matter how many games they lose. :(


Fucking :wrd:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coach K for head coach!!!!!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

[lube'd]

Coach K. or Pitino, give him another chance!

[All-Star]

at least once in each game yao falls to the floor which is just embarrasing

[5plusjuan]

at least once in each game yao falls to the floor which is just embarrasing


or he gets fucking dunked on!!!!!!!! :yeahno: :yeahno:

[lube'd]

at least once in each game yao falls to the floor which is just embarrasing

Yep, he really needs to gather himself and realize that the NBA has no room for punks. He needs to play a la Ron Artest.

[talonturbotsi94]

fire van gundy. half court offense sucks, and dosnt work with the players we have at all

[ibtl]

accord se for new coach postion

[AccordSE]

accord se for new coach postion

hahaha thats exactly why it didnt work with francis either. i guess now alot of you see it. its about time.

[talonturbotsi94]

hahaha thats exactly why it didnt work with francis either. i guess now alot of you see it. its about time.
yea i notived that along time ago. ohh well im glad to see francis and cat are doing good with orlando now

[Leo]

Who cares? :dunno:


Rockets suck. GO Spurs GO!



:rock:

:thumb:

[ibtl]

hahaha thats exactly why it didnt work with francis either. i guess now alot of you see it. its about time.

what do u think should be done :thumb:

[turboteg]

don't really think it has much to do w/ coaching because we made the playoffs last year w/ the same coach. I think it's chemistry. It's basically an entirely different team.

[EssTooKayTD]

Man, it is the coaching. As much as I tried to tell people getting rid of Francis was not the answer, it is apparent now. I think the trade was a good thing, but if the coach cannot adapt his gameplan and coaching to his personnel, this will be a long season. You can see this team wants to win, you can see them get fired up...they need better coaching. Can JVG give that to them, dunno...but someone needs to.

[SprayedAccord]

It's not the god damn coach. It's the stupidass weakshit players.

[EssTooKayTD]

dude, the spacing on the offensive end is horrible. Sometimes the movement away from the ball is TOO much, where it brings unwanted defenders towards the ball. It has been beaten into the heads of these players to get the ball inside, that they spend 10+ seconds just trying to make an entry pass. Good Lord, that's ridiculous. If you can't get it in, make something happen. But that would be against the coach's system.

I for one, still think it's early, but it is frustrating to watch.

[UrMyStlkAl]

I think Yao is alot of the problem. Don't get me wrong I love having Yao and he's awesome. He just needs to stop having shitty games. He gets 30 points one night then the next 2 games he'll get 8 or 9 points. It's horrible. He needs to be more consistent. I guess I just notice it more becuase he's on my fantasy team. Also I think T-mac needs to just play his game. He needs to not worry about people thinking he's a ballhog and just play. If Yao gets more consistent that would help alot.

[adam gs-r]

I think theyre paid too hight and they dont give a s*** about wether or not they win.

[dj to ny n]

It is the coaches/coaching staff/GM's damn fault

There's no chemistry because the coaches brought different types of players in different types of style. Not only that JVG has to bring in every damn ex-knicks on our roster. Makes it seems like we're turning into an eastern conference team and they suck bad.. i dont like jvg's game system.. just his defense but he doesnt seem to use zone d anymore.

[AccordSE]

what do u think should be done :thumb:

new coach or better change that stupid half court offense because it sucks and thats why the rockets cant score. they fucking barely beat philly thats pathetic only scoring like 70 pts.

yea i notived that along time ago. ohh well im glad to see francis and cat are doing good with orlando now

yeah Francis is a badass player and has always been and to think some people actually thought he sucked in one year :rolleyes:

[AccordSE]

I think Yao is alot of the problem. Don't get me wrong I love having Yao and he's awesome. He just needs to stop having shitty games. He gets 30 points one night then the next 2 games he'll get 8 or 9 points. It's horrible. He needs to be more consistent. I guess I just notice it more becuase he's on my fantasy team. Also I think T-mac needs to just play his game. He needs to not worry about people thinking he's a ballhog and just play. If Yao gets more consistent that would help alot.

you might want to tell tmac to be more consistent too. and tmac cant play his game because this system doesnt allow it

[All-Star]

wouldent Phil Jackson be a good fit for the rockets?

[GhostFaceKilla]

wouldent Phil Jackson be a good fit for the rockets?
If the Rockets are willing to pay for him :eh:

[.César.]

Phill----Too expensive
Yao----Grow Balls
TMac---Just Play Fucker
VGundy-Be A Coach & Get On Their Ass To Play as A Team
Be More Aggressive i.e..Yao...That is why Houston looses the 4th quarter thus losing the game
Team---Work on that chemistry a little....but still....

[Leon]

They dont really seem hungry for it. :(

[joo]

need a better pg

[Peapod]

Some of you sound ridiculous... Jesus, you may watch the game, but it seems like you don't understand anything. Coach Van Gundy is doing the best he can do. I don't know how any of you even know Van Gundy's plan for T-Mac. Are you a part of his staff? Everyone know's Van Gundy's defensive strategy and how much he relies on it. He's not gonna change it out of nowhere. Plus it's a good strategy, once the defense kicks in then we'll start winning more. Secondly, Mcgrady recently said that Van Gundy wants him to be like he was in Orlando. I do agree though that Yao needs to get more consistent and he needs to become more agressive. When we lost the players in the trade with Orlando, 3 of our starting positions became empty and we have yet to fill them efficiently. I'm happy with Mutombo in the backup center position though. This season is when they need to start molding, they'll get better later on this season. Right now, our bench has to produce and that just takes time. A few more roster changes and I think we'd have a solid team. :eek3dance

[initial what?]

:eek3:

[nuWest]

i think we should make a trade....

....van gundy for Rudy T :kekegay:

:eekbunny:

edit: did we make the playoffs last year? i was just reading turbotegs post and i dont think we did make it, but im sure im wrong since i dont follow basketball closely.

[*ChRiStInA_MaRiE*]

I will and forever think the Rockets suck. my sisters BF kept telling me that they were going to kick ass this year and have they? NO. Go ASTROS

[UrMyStlkAl]

Some of you sound ridiculous... Jesus, you may watch the game, but it seems like you don't understand anything. Coach Van Gundy is doing the best he can do. I don't know how any of you even know Van Gundy's plan for T-Mac. Are you a part of his staff? Everyone know's Van Gundy's defensive strategy and how much he relies on it. He's not gonna change it out of nowhere. Plus it's a good strategy, once the defense kicks in then we'll start winning more. Secondly, Mcgrady recently said that Van Gundy wants him to be like he was in Orlando. I do agree though that Yao needs to get more consistent and he needs to become more agressive. When we lost the players in the trade with Orlando, 3 of our starting positions became empty and we have yet to fill them efficiently. I'm happy with Mutombo in the backup center position though. This season is when they need to start molding, they'll get better later on this season. Right now, our bench has to produce and that just takes time. A few more roster changes and I think we'd have a solid team. :eek3dance

That's why I said he needs to play his game....cuz Coach wants him to take more shots and do more fast breaks. Coach VG wants to win. Tmac is just reluctant to take the shots and play his game because he doesn't want people calling him a ball hog like they did last year. No one is going to critisize him here though. We want to win, and when Yao is not carrying his load T-mac needs to pick it up and vice versa.

[All-Star]

If the rockets dont win tonigh against the hornets who have only one win then the rockets do suck

[turboteg]

i think we should make a trade....

....van gundy for Rudy T :kekegay:

:eekbunny:

edit: did we make the playoffs last year? i was just reading turbotegs post and i dont think we did make it, but im sure im wrong since i dont follow basketball closely.

yeah they lost to the Lakers in the first round

[Pitlab77]

Is calvin murphy coming back? maybe they will win now :kekegay:

[All-Star]

i think hes gonna comeback for tonights game

[EssTooKayTD]

Yao Consistency: When you don't get touches and don't get calls...you won't score. that is Yao's problem. He is not being coached to seal off defenders effectively, and the entry-passer suck. Horrible. It's not THAT hard to perform an entry pass. He is getting more calls lately, but still gets shafted a LOT on calls. If you can't see that see the types of calls McGrady gets.

JVG gameplan: it's pretty apparent his general game plan. You dn't have to be on his staff. It is true, he has asked T-Mac to finally just shoot, thank God. It took him one season and some games to realize at this point in time Yao is a SECOND option on offense right now. I think JVG is a good coach, and is starting to finally find a middle ground with his personnel. Let's hope it works.

And I think at the core of it all, it's been beaten to death, but the Rockets need a more solid 4. Howard and Taylor or decent, but hardly what the Rockets need to be a serious contender. My problem with Taylor is that he thinks he's better than he is.

[AccordSE]

Some of you sound ridiculous... Jesus, you may watch the game, but it seems like you don't understand anything. Coach Van Gundy is doing the best he can do. I don't know how any of you even know Van Gundy's plan for T-Mac. Are you a part of his staff? Everyone know's Van Gundy's defensive strategy and how much he relies on it. He's not gonna change it out of nowhere. Plus it's a good strategy, once the defense kicks in then we'll start winning more. Secondly, Mcgrady recently said that Van Gundy wants him to be like he was in Orlando. I do agree though that Yao needs to get more consistent and he needs to become more agressive. When we lost the players in the trade with Orlando, 3 of our starting positions became empty and we have yet to fill them efficiently. I'm happy with Mutombo in the backup center position though. This season is when they need to start molding, they'll get better later on this season. Right now, our bench has to produce and that just takes time. A few more roster changes and I think we'd have a solid team. :eek3dance

obviously if you knew anythign about basketball you wouldn't have to be on van gundy's staff to know what a half court offense is and its effects on the game.:rolleyes:its not that hard.thats if you knew anything about basketball period.

[AccordSE]

by the way the rockets schedule for the next 5 or so games couldnt be any better against a group of scrub teams however philly isnt that great either but they struggled with them.

[All-Star]

is cynthia cooper annoying as hell? i can stand when she talks

[speedtek]

i will always love the rockets...

[lube'd]

is cynthia cooper annoying as hell? i can stand when she talks

Im glad Im not the only one who thinks so.

[All-Star]

Im glad Im not the only one who thinks so.
i hate her freaking half time reports

[GhostFaceKilla]

I think the big problem is that Yao needs to step up. Maybe if you hire a better big man coach for him instead of Patrick Ewing, he would improve. He doesn't play like Ewing did or Shaq does, which is muscle your way to the glass, even though he's big. I think if the Rockets could get Hakeem Olajuwon to coach him, he can seriously improve because I think Yao plays more like a finesse center like Hakeem was, with his moves and shakes instead of his body mass and size. Just my opinion.

[All-Star]

Van gundy needs to get rid of the hair he has in the middle so he wont have that hidious comb over :ugh2:

[AccordSE]

rockets offense is pathetic new coach please!!!

[lube'd]

3 pt lead against one of the worst teams in the NBA, WTF?

[All-Star]

Will Yao ming ever be a great center?

[ALLCITY]

Will Yao ming ever be a great center?


Yea when they get him a better coach. Patrick Ewing just sits on his ass.


Fire Van Gundy. Shouldve got Lenny Wilkens.

[jhonda04]

man this rockets team is nothing like the two championship teams of '94 and '95. bunch of thugs... however i'll still root for them. rockets and spurs. :thumb:

[adam gs-r]

Will Yao ming ever be a great center?
As soon as he learns how to speak correct English.

[jhonda04]

As soon as he learns how to speak correct English.

hahahahhahaha

:bow:

[adam gs-r]

3 pt lead against one of the worst teams in the NBA, WTF?
Man the team is black, they can't shoot threes.


[/racist comment]


:rofl:

[avex]

is cynthia cooper annoying as hell? i can stand when she talks


when i heard her use the term, "semi-fast break" describing lue barely dribbling and shooting a j during a preseason game i stopped watching rockets games....van chancellor isn't exactly a great announcer either :(

[crunK]

GO ROCKETS

I will be a Rockets fan no matter how many games they lose. :(

:wrd: It is not the coach, its because they constantly are changing up the strings so they haven't got use to playing with each other yet and can't read each others moves.

[AccordSE]

:wrd: It is not the coach, its because they constantly are changing up the strings so they haven't got use to playing with each other yet and can't read each others moves.

umm no its the coach

[GSR]

Definately not the coach. New team, they need to get use to playing with each other.

[adam gs-r]

Dude if you played for the Rockets you wouldnt give a f about winning when youre making all that money.

[AccordSE]

Definately not the coach. New team, they need to get use to playing with each other.

definitely the coach

[PissYellowGTi]

Dude if you played for the Rockets you wouldnt give a f about winning when youre making all that money.

I thought that was the whole reason T-mac wanted to goto houston?

[All-Star]

we have a sports forum when did that happen

[lube'd]

we have a sports forum when did that happen
WTF? Wow, we sure do. Thanks to the admins/mods. Ive been waiting for this.

[All-Star]

Damn tomorrow is gonna be another loss for the rockets :ugh2: oh well....

[crunK]

definitely the coach


Care to explain why you think its the coach? If I am not mistaken last year they made it to the play-offs with the current coach, now new team and look at whats happening...The old coach (Rudy) couldn't bring last seasons team to the play-offs for quite some time.

[ALLCITY]

Care to explain why you think its the coach? If I am not mistaken last year they made it to the play-offs with the current coach, now new team and look at whats happening...The old coach (Rudy) couldn't bring last seasons team to the play-offs for quite some time.


Astros season this year is a perfect example. They had a shitload of talent but Jimmy Williams couldnt get the team motivated. Switched coaches and bam they almost made it to the world series. Something has to change fast or the trade will/is looking like a total bust. :yeahno:

[AccordSE]

Care to explain why you think its the coach? If I am not mistaken last year they made it to the play-offs with the current coach, now new team and look at whats happening...The old coach (Rudy) couldn't bring last seasons team to the play-offs for quite some time.

ive explained it way too many times on various threads that have been created about the rockets. search and youll find plenty. plain and simple the big thing is van gundy has never been good or any good of an offensive coach because his system sucks and he still continues to use it. and because of this it causes many other disadvantages on the court for players like t-mac and francis.

[Recon]

just fire his bald ass

[greyghost]

if Andre Barrett learns how to shoot and gets more playing time we will be good (him and bob are the only points that can push the ball next to t-mac)

[All-Star]

just fire his bald ass


nah hes got a few good hairs left

['05_Infiniti_Coupe]

I think the problem is the coach, his philosophy sucks. He says that he wants the team to run more but I think he doesn't REALLY mean it. His half-court offense sucks IMO. But who could replace him?

Poor Rockets :hs:

[DC]

ive explained it way too many times on various threads that have been created about the rockets. search and youll find plenty. plain and simple the big thing is van gundy has never been good or any good of an offensive coach because his system sucks and he still continues to use it. and because of this it causes many other disadvantages on the court for players like t-mac and francis.
Granted, but you must also recognize the fact that his defensive strategies have kept them in many games, even allowing them to win against some of the best offensive teams in the league.

[Peapod]

obviously if you knew anythign about basketball you wouldn't have to be on van gundy's staff to know what a half court offense is and its effects on the game.:rolleyes:its not that hard.thats if you knew anything about basketball period.

Argh :smack: , maybe you should go back and read my post thoroughly. I was talking about his damn plan for T-Mac, not the half court offense. I was talking about how anyone would know Van Gundy's plan for T-Mac. People just came out and assumed that Van Gundy wanted T-Mac to follow his previous gameplans. T-Mac already openly announced that Van Gundy wanted him to be like he was in Orlando. That's where we want him to be too, we want him to lead. I didn't say you had to be on his staff to know his style of play, I mean almost everyone already knows about it anyway. Van Gundy's gameplan is good, but the problem is his players don't execute it properly. The fact that we reached the playoffs last year meant that his strategy was working. Do you want someone like Orlando's coach? Look at his statistics. I know you wouldn't, but I'm just saying how people think its the coach all the time. The reason Orlando is so good is because they've got a great team. If it wasn't for them, then the coach would still be mediocre. Francis, Mobley, and Cato already have all that chemistry. Hill, Battie, and Howard starting with Francis and Mobley gives you a solid starting group. I haven't even mentioned their bench. Our bench is alright, but they just need to work at it. Oh and by the way, your attempt to relatiate was worthless so just :stfu:.

[AccordSE]

Argh :smack: , maybe you should go back and read my post thoroughly. I was talking about his damn plan for T-Mac, not the half court offense. I was talking about how anyone would know Van Gundy's plan for T-Mac. People just came out and assumed that Van Gundy wanted T-Mac to follow his previous gameplans. T-Mac already openly announced that Van Gundy wanted him to be like he was in Orlando. That's where we want him to be too, we want him to lead. I didn't say you had to be on his staff to know his style of play, I mean almost everyone already knows about it anyway. Van Gundy's gameplan is good, but the problem is his players don't execute it properly. The fact that we reached the playoffs last year meant that his strategy was working. Do you want someone like Orlando's coach? Look at his statistics. I know you wouldn't, but I'm just saying how people think its the coach all the time. The reason Orlando is so good is because they've got a great team. If it wasn't for them, then the coach would still be mediocre. Francis, Mobley, and Cato already have all that chemistry. Hill, Battie, and Howard starting with Francis and Mobley gives you a solid starting group. I haven't even mentioned their bench. Our bench is alright, but they just need to work at it. Oh and by the way, your attempt to relatiate was worthless so just :stfu:.

do you even know what your talking about? :stfu: the fact that you believe tmac can be like he was in orlando is pathetic. THIS OFFENSE DOES NOT ALLOW IT. theres no "special" game plan for tmac :roflmao: tmac is forced to take over half his shots on jump shots now and his shot isnt even that great. hes not allowed to penetrate like he has been on previous teams, where he is most effective. theres a reason why theres that stupid break check fast break charity because the rockets can't/aren't allowed to run. and the reason why orlando is so good is because they have francis running again and penetrating and breaking the defenses down, where like tmac he is most effective but now tmac cannot and francis can. so stop believing tmac can be like where he was in orlando, until van gundy allows transition plays and a more uptempo game that will never happen.

[AccordSE]

the rockets are the 3rd worst team in scoring only infront of the hornets and nets. that should tell you something. even the bulls, hawks, and bobcats average more points then the rockets.

[All-Star]

Rockets lose again awsome :ugh2:

[AccordSE]

on top of new coach new pg. 3 on 1 and sura shoots a airball from 3 terrible offense. hes freaking sorry

[GTI337]

on top of new coach new pg. 3 on 1 and sura shoots a airball from 3 terrible offense. hes freaking sorry
the shooting sucked yes..but we can chalk this lose up to yao (the leading scorer) going out with 1 min inthe 3rd and not going in till 730 left in the 4th..

i think we just won

[GTI337]

that was the best 45 secs of basket ball i can rememebr seeing

[davids2004]

Play like we did the last minute every game. Go rockets.

[UrMyStlkAl]

Rockets lose again awsome :ugh2:

Feels good to eat ur own words huh


That was amazing

[lube'd]

WTF. The Rockets won?

[Peapod]

Yeah they did, I guess you need a little faith. I probably would have done what everyone else did though. I didn't get to see the game, but I heard McGrady turned it up when a lot of people went out the door. Oh and AccordSE, what's that crap you were talking about earlier? Yeah that's right :stfu:. You just don't give up do you. Oh and :gtfo: will ya? Don't even reply back.

[lube'd]

Wow, I missed the damn game. Check this out: http://broadband.nba.com/content.php?type=video&filename=/tmac_shots_041209_hi.rm
I was like WTF when I saw that. I just woke my parents up cause I jumped up and yelled.

[blink]

HOLY SHIT, i just saw it on nba.com
tmac needs to do that shit more often.

[AccordSE]

Yeah they did, I guess you need a little faith. I probably would have done what everyone else did though. I didn't get to see the game, but I heard McGrady turned it up when a lot of people went out the door. Oh and AccordSE, what's that crap you were talking about earlier? Yeah that's right :stfu:. You just don't give up do you. Oh and :gtfo: will ya? Don't even reply back.

what the hell are you talking about? :roflmao: exactly proved my point. you didnt even watch it show :stfu: you dont even know what happened so you have no room to even talk. look what happened when the game speeds up for the rockets. your an idiot who thinks you know shit but you don't.

[DC]

the rockets are the 3rd worst team in scoring only infront of the hornets and nets. that should tell you something. even the bulls, hawks, and bobcats average more points then the rockets.
Here's my problem with stats in this case...it's still relatively early in the season, and those percentages are only spread out over a handful of games. Also, the Rockets should at least be given a little more time to develop a rhythm, if that's possible. I see your point with Van Gundy though, and maybe he's not the best fit for the team.

[AccordSE]

Here's my problem with stats in this case...it's still relatively early in the season, and those percentages are only spread out over a handful of games. Also, the Rockets should at least be given a little more time to develop a rhythm, if that's possible. I see your point with Van Gundy though, and maybe he's not the best fit for the team.

its early in the season yeah but the numbers are consistent with last year when van gundy became the head coach. those numbers are consistent with every teams hes been on.

[Peapod]

what the hell are you talking about? :roflmao: exactly proved my point. you didnt even watch it show :stfu: you dont even know what happened so you have no room to even talk. look what happened when the game speeds up for the rockets. your an idiot who thinks you know shit but you don't.

Are you retarded? I may not have watched it, but there's recaps all over and they've been replaying highlights all over tv. Do I need to know what happened? What exactly happened during that game requires me to watch the whole thing? I'm sorry I can't watch every game on tv. At least I follow up on them. Here's what I know though: First the Rockets played a typical game, the leads switched multiple times, next thing you know it's the 4th quarter, Rockets are trailing. 35 seconds left of the game and McGrady gets red hot. What's this about having no room to talk? You're the idiot, the Rockets can't speed things up. Look at the god damn roster, our guys don't have speed man. If you had them run the court, you'd tire a bunch of em out, especially Yao. If you had a team like Memphis, then yeah you'd be able to speed things up and be successful, but the Rockets? No, I don't think so. Speed's one thing we just don't have right now and there's nothing you can say. Oh, and not only are you an idiot, but also a bitch. All you do is bitch bitch bitch. So :stfu: and :gtfo:

[Peapod]

Oh and another thing, the frigging scoring stats don't have to be high at all. What Jeff Van Gundy wants for his team is to play defense. If the team plays good defense, then the offense will eventually come and that'll lead to wins. You want consistency? Try this, how about the opponents low field goal percentage for Jeff Van Gundy? Look at when he lead coached the Knicks and then when he started for the Rocket's. That's what he's great at and that's what we need to do. We need to start limiting the opponents scoring. We can't have an offense like the Mavericks, Kings, Timberwolves, Supersonics, and or Spurs etc. A lot of those other teams out there have a ton of firepower. Since we don't have that, we need to clamp down on the other teams. Also, remember that we only have 6 guys from last season. All the new guys that came in need time to adjust and mesh with each other. Even though some of em had played under JVG, they need more time together to start being effective.

[AccordSE]

Are you retarded? I may not have watched it, but there's recaps all over and they've been replaying highlights all over tv. Do I need to know what happened? What exactly happened during that game requires me to watch the whole thing? I'm sorry I can't watch every game on tv. At least I follow up on them. Here's what I know though: First the Rockets played a typical game, the leads switched multiple times, next thing you know it's the 4th quarter, Rockets are trailing. 35 seconds left of the game and McGrady gets red hot. What's this about having no room to talk? You're the idiot, the Rockets can't speed things up. Look at the god damn roster, our guys don't have speed man. If you had them run the court, you'd tire a bunch of em out, especially Yao. If you had a team like Memphis, then yeah you'd be able to speed things up and be successful, but the Rockets? No, I don't think so. Speed's one thing we just don't have right now and there's nothing you can say. Oh, and not only are you an idiot, but also a bitch. All you do is bitch bitch bitch. So :stfu: and :gtfo:

speeding the game up a little means getting more plays in the open court. mcgrady is at his strongest in the open court where there may be like 3-4 guys around him rather then 9 players all clamped together standing around. you dont even have to have speed, you just have to be able to finish easy buckets that transition plays get you. I didnt say the rockets need to turn into a freaking nets team where half there pts come from transition plays but they need to atleast score more pts in transition than 2 a game. anyone should know that thats there biggest problem.

Oh and another thing, the frigging scoring stats don't have to be high at all. What Jeff Van Gundy wants for his team is to play defense. If the team plays good defense, then the offense will eventually come and that'll lead to wins. You want consistency? Try this, how about the opponents low field goal percentage for Jeff Van Gundy? Look at when he lead coached the Knicks and then when he started for the Rocket's. That's what he's great at and that's what we need to do. We need to start limiting the opponents scoring. We can't have an offense like the Mavericks, Kings, Timberwolves, Supersonics, and or Spurs etc. A lot of those other teams out there have a ton of firepower. Since we don't have that, we need to clamp down on the other teams. Also, remember that we only have 6 guys from last season. All the new guys that came in need time to adjust and mesh with each other. Even though some of em had played under JVG, they need more time together to start being effective.

im not knockin van gundy as a defensive coach, i know he concentrates on defense but the rockets still have guys who cant play defense. our pf position is weak as hell and so is the pg position. howard, taylor, sura etc. have zero defensive skills. they get scored on night in and night out. with the players the rockets have/had there scoring should be no where near that low. well see how long this streak goes on cause the spurs are the only victory that stands out and mcgrady had to pull that one out single handedly. dallas should be another good test tonight

[SHANGHAi]

... I miss Steve Francis.

[Leon]

... I miss Hakeem

[lube'd]

... I miss Hakeem

:wrd:

I miss Vernon Maxwell.

[AccordSE]

just got back from the dallas game. simply ugly. 78 pts pathetic. cut bobby sura please

[Fryguy]

their starting lineup should be

PG. - Andre Barret
SG. - T-mac (course)
SF. - Jimmy J or Bostjan Nachbar
PF. - Mo Taylor
C. - Yao

Coach - Anyone but Van Gundy....

[gumbylude]

whats up with nachbar? injured? in the doghouse??

[All-Star]

those damn rockets...

[dj to ny n]

DAMN WE SUCK!

i bet the cba players can put up better numbers than our role players can damn

juwan howard sucks baddddd i can't believe we actually we still got this mother fucker but who would want his nasty ass contract. damn.

[All-Star]

we should of traded yao ming for tmac that way we would have this starting line up
tmac
steve francis
jim jackson
mo taylor
kelvin cato
run n gun team

[Fryguy]

whats up with nachbar? injured? in the doghouse??

van gundy put him in the doghouse so that Ryan Bowen could get some minutes.

+ he sux ass, and has no clue wat he's doing...

nachbar owns...

[UrMyStlkAl]

... I miss Steve Francis.

I hate Steve Francis, I wanted him to get traded for along ass time and glad it finally happened.

[AccordSE]

I hate Steve Francis, I wanted him to get traded for along ass time and glad it finally happened.


im glad francis is back to his old self for people like you

[UrMyStlkAl]

im glad francis is back to his old self for people like you


I'm glad he's doing well also, that doesn't change the fact that I don't like him. Tmac doesn't run down the court everytime and jump up into the air w/ absolutly nothing to do.

I liked everyone else though, just not Francis. To bad we couldn't have kept Cat

[Fryguy]

To bad we couldn't have kept Cat

werd^

[AccordSE]

I'm glad he's doing well also, that doesn't change the fact that I don't like him. Tmac doesn't run down the court everytime and jump up into the air w/ absolutly nothing to do.

I liked everyone else though, just not Francis. To bad we couldn't have kept Cat

thats because francis can do that and tmac cant :kekegay:

[GhostFaceKilla]

we should of traded yao ming for tmac that way we would have this starting line up
tmac
steve francis
jim jackson
mo taylor
kelvin cato
run n gun team
That line-up sounds nice, but it would only create problems, like Francis wanting the ball all the time to try to "Shine" over T-Mac.

[grnlude97]

Anyone who thinks Francis is superior to Tmac in overall skills has got to be kidding themselves...

Daniel :)

[AccordSE]

Anyone who thinks Francis is superior to Tmac in overall skills has got to be kidding themselves...

Daniel :)

not saying francis is better then t-mac but until t-mac gets the rockets to win more games then francis did when he was here then its hard to argue, because the rockets look ridiculous now and theres gonna be some changes if they dont pick it up. also francis is having a better season so far then t-mac :p

[DC]

not saying francis is better then t-mac but until t-mac gets the rockets to win more games then francis did when he was here then its hard to argue, because the rockets look ridiculous now and theres gonna be some changes if they dont pick it up. also francis is having a better season so far then t-mac :p
After having two of the top guards in the league play for the team, with shitty results, the only option at this point is to change the coach. This is becoming more and more evident with each loss.

[AccordSE]

After having two of the top guards in the league play for the team, with shitty results, the only option at this point is to change the coach. This is becoming more and more evident with each loss.

maybe that but I was thinking more like they will probably make a move for a pf before they get rid of the coach.

[GhostFaceKilla]

not saying francis is better then t-mac but until t-mac gets the rockets to win more games then francis did when he was here then its hard to argue, because the rockets look ridiculous now and theres gonna be some changes if they dont pick it up. also francis is having a better season so far then t-mac :p
The only reason why Francis is having a better season than T-mac is that he has something to prove (Such as Houston should not have traded him in the first place), thus making Francis and Mobley work harder to become better to try to rub it on our faces :hs:

[greyghost]

i say rockets are going on a streak and slowly moving up the playoffs ladder

[AccordSE]

The only reason why Francis is having a better season than T-mac is that he has something to prove (Such as Houston should not have traded him in the first place), thus making Francis and Mobley work harder to become better to try to rub it on our faces :hs:

that and hes back to his old numbers that he put up before van gundy came.