240 ABS?

[Oni-San]

96 240sx
Want to get Brembro slotted and drilled rotors (http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=51735&cat=44&)

But how do I find out if my 240 has ABS or not?

[Sickboy]

Open the hood, look for a metal box looking thing with brakes lines running into and out of it (other than the brake master cylinder)

Something like this (Don't know which car this is from, just stole it from google)

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/anti-lock-brake-ch.jpg

[Oni-San]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/onizuka1724/ABS.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/onizuka1724/ABS3.jpg
:eh:

[Spaceman Spiff]

now follow those hard brake lines and keep looking towards the passenger side of the bay.

it should sit somewhere between the intake manifold and the firewall below.

[Oni-San]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/onizuka1724/vba.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/onizuka1724/vbb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/onizuka1724/vbc.jpg
Followed one of the hard lines and went to passanger wheel well.

[skr33t_rac3r]

why dont u just go fast and slam on the brakes, if they look up for a long time u dont have it, or cant u feel abs pushing the pedal back

[Agent S14]

My car has ABS 1996 240SX also

[Oni-San]

My car has ABS 1996 240SX also

need to be sure before I order the rotors

[Agent S14]

need to be sure before I order the rotors
good point :thumb:

[Sickboy]

You do not have ABS.

On the right side from the BMC - there are three lines total leaving the BMC: Two going up and across and the 3rd going down to the FL brake.

The 3 lines crossing over in the last pic: one line (from BMC) goes back and splits to the rear brakes.. the other (from CMC) goes to the slave cylinder, and the last one (from BMC) goes to the FR brake.

[TIREKILLER]

Nope no ABS. Go order your rotors! :thumb:

[Oni-San]

Nope no ABS. Go order your rotors! :thumb:

Is ABS that important

[2blue240]

well its not that important if u have some badass brakes and real good pads....but it sure does help

[initial what?]

i think (and this is because i dont feel like researching now) that abs calipers and rotors are bigger. i dont have abs so i never cared to look it up.
if im wrong someone say so...i hate going off my theories

[2blue240]

brian your theories suck j/k


get on aim

[Sickboy]

http://www.musclecarclub.com/library/tech/brakes.shtml

[TopSeller]

i think you have abs

http://img103.exs.cx/img103/5671/vbc.jpg

[Sickboy]

You circled the alternator and the throttlebody.

[Oni-San]

:roflmao: Thats what I was going to say.

Thanks for the help though

[eternalsun]

well its not that important if u have some badass brakes and real good pads....but it sure does help
Do you even know what ABS does? It keeps the tires from locking up. ABS is good. If you put big ass rotors, and some bad ass pads, and have the same calipers with no ABS, all you are gonna do is lock up your tires that much sooner. ABS is your friend.

[Oni-San]

Do you even know what ABS does? It keeps the tires from locking up. ABS is good. If you put big ass rotors, and some bad ass pads, and have the same calipers with no ABS, all you are gonna do is lock up your tires that much sooner. ABS is your friend.

I agree but I dont have ABs so I'm out of luck.
(I need to practice pumping.....my brakes)

[TopSeller]

You circled the alternator and the throttlebody.

that was like 3 mintues of my life :(

[Project240]

that was like 3 mintues of my life :(
lol


I've got an easier way. Open up your fuse box in your engine bay. Look at the diagram on the lid of the fuse box. It indicates where there should be an ABS fuse. If the fuse is there, you ahve it. if its not, then you don;'t

Lucky me bought an SE model 240 without LSD OR ABS!!!!

anyone got a vlsd they can throw my way?

[Oni-San]

lol


I've got an easier way. Open up your fuse box in your engine bay. Look at the diagram on the lid of the fuse box. It indicates where there should be an ABS fuse. If the fuse is there, you ahve it. if its not, then you don;'t

Lucky me bought an SE model 240 without LSD OR ABS!!!!

anyone got a vlsd they can throw my way?
:thumb:

[eternalsun]

I agree but I dont have ABs so I'm out of luck.
(I need to practice pumping.....my brakes)
I know alot of people say "pump your brakes if you need to stop quick", but that is bad. PUmping a brake system that is hydraulic is actually bad for it. Not to mention when you have to stop suddenly, like if someone slams on their brakes infront of you, you are not going to push the brake and release and push the brake and release, shit your gonna try and make that fucking pedal touch the fucking floor. lol My accord did not have ABS and I can't even begin to tell you how many times my front brakes locked up. lol Just know your car what it can and can't do: what its boundries are, and you should be good. :thumb:

[Project240]

I know alot of people say "pump your brakes if you need to stop quick", but that is bad. PUmping a brake system that is hydraulic is actually bad for it. Not to mention when you have to stop suddenly, like if someone slams on their brakes infront of you, you are not going to push the brake and release and push the brake and release, shit your gonna try and make that fucking pedal touch the fucking floor. lol My accord did not have ABS and I can't even begin to tell you how many times my front brakes locked up. lol Just know your car what it can and can't do: what its boundries are, and you should be good. :thumb:

When your wheels lock up(or when abs engages), You can only brake as well as your tire, not your
brakes

the only thing pumping your breaks is good for is being able to turn when your trying to brake really hard,cause when your wheels lock up, you don't turn for shit

Thats why abs was invented. I've actually seen some cars with abs that take a few more feet to stop from 60mph than the non abs version of the same car. pumping won't get you anywhere, except trying to steer clear of the situation that is making you brake so hard.

correct me if i'm wrong.....

[Oni-San]

Tha hell with it I'll just slam on my brakes.

[Oni-San]

Tha hell with it I'll just slam on my brakes.

[2blue240]

Do you even know what ABS does? It keeps the tires from locking up. ABS is good. If you put big ass rotors, and some bad ass pads, and have the same calipers with no ABS, all you are gonna do is lock up your tires that much sooner. ABS is your friend.


yes im aware of what ABS does and what it is. but what i meant by bad ass brake system would be a whole new one like calipers and all. sorry if i wasnt informative enough. i have the same problem i have no abs no vlsd so its either big brake kit or intall abs on my car if even possible which i dont even consider an option.

and i do plan on a vlsd just not a damn stock one. project 240 made a good point about how u can only stop as good as your tires biggest brakes in the world wouldnt help if u keep sliding

[eternalsun]

When your wheels lock up(or when abs engages), You can only brake as well as your tire, not your
brakes

the only thing pumping your breaks is good for is being able to turn when your trying to brake really hard,cause when your wheels lock up, you don't turn for shit

Thats why abs was invented. I've actually seen some cars with abs that take a few more feet to stop from 60mph than the non abs version of the same car. pumping won't get you anywhere, except trying to steer clear of the situation that is making you brake so hard.

correct me if i'm wrong.....
Yeah, it may not be as good on dry pavement but ABS sure helps on wet ground. :thumb:

[eternalsun]

yes im aware of what ABS does and what it is. but what i meant by bad ass brake system would be a whole new one like calipers and all. sorry if i wasnt informative enough. i have the same problem i have no abs no vlsd so its either big brake kit or intall abs on my car if even possible which i dont even consider an option.

and i do plan on a vlsd just not a damn stock one. project 240 made a good point about how u can only stop as good as your tires biggest brakes in the world wouldnt help if u keep sliding
Ah, calipers are a good investment. :thumb:

[Oni-San]

Ah, calipers are a good investment. :thumb:

Yeah I just need to find some good ones

[2blue240]

good im glad we understand each other no hard feelings :thumb:

[2blue240]

Yeah I just need to find some good ones


id say do a full front 300zx upgrade kit

[Oni-San]

id say do a full front 300zx upgrade kit

Then I wouldn't need the rotors, or now 300zx rotors.

[initial what?]

http://www.musclecarclub.com/library/tech/brakes.shtml

thank you :thumb:

[2blue240]

yes all front 300zx parts u do have the five lug right?

[Oni-San]

yes all front 300zx parts u do have the five lug right?

Yeah but what if I just get a Brembo set-up (What about the back)

[eternalsun]

good im glad we understand each other no hard feelings :thumb:
:thumb:

[2blue240]

u did get a brembo set up for the front? how much u pay for them and doing the rear is kinda pointless might as well do all brembo if thats the way u want to go.




doing 300zx rear is pointless if u dont have the front

[Project240]

Yeah but what if I just get a Brembo set-up (What about the back)


BREMBO big brake kit = 3k

What i would do, is find aftermarket 300zx rotors that look cool, get brembo calipers made to fit 300zx rotors, and use braided stainles lines for all the other junk. And i think thats about it.

[Oni-San]

u did get a brembo set up for the front? how much u pay for them and doing the rear is kinda pointless might as well do all brembo if thats the way u want to go.
doing 300zx rear is pointless if u dont have the front

What? I said I might as well buy a Brembo brake set-up if I'm going to do the 300zx set-up even though its probaly cheaper

[Sickboy]

Newer ABS systems, like on the WRX and BMW, are very efficient and far better than most drivers ability in stopping.

However older systems, like S13s, are not that great. You can stop quicker without it and the pedal feel is lacking and pulses.

When performance driving you want accurate precise braking measured at the foot that reacts instantly, especially when Drifting. You want that almost instant weight transfer (right before locking up) when approaching the corner from tapping the brakes; not so predictable or accurate with some ABS systems.

I have driven both and prefer NON-ABS cars for the pedal feel and for me I like to apply slight amounts of brake without the pulse disturbing exactly how much braking I am feeling at my foot.