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bs motorsports 2
10-29-2004, 06:41 PM
hey whats up peaple new to this part of the forum well any ways i have a 96 mustang 5 speed mostly stock but its all good. yall say its best to start out with stock then do more. well here is the other thing i have also heard peaple say you should be comfterble with your car. Well this is my dailly driver ( or was ) and i love it. so i guess my question to you would be is this a good enogh platform becouase i do really wanna by another car just to drift in. OK well now thats out of the way i need to know i also read that body role is not a drifters friend so does that mean i should have a really tight setup on the suspention or what i mean i was thinking about qa1 k member, 10 way adjustables and front coil over convertion, then on the rear a coil over convertion and 12 way adjustables. also with a rear strut tower brace. the front i can use the stock one let me know if this would be to much grip or what alright later. :rock:

b00st
10-29-2004, 10:28 PM
I don't see why a Stang wouldn't work. Lots of power, and not a lot of weight over the rear wheels.

As for body roll, that's easiest (and cheapest) to fix with a set of sway bars (aka anti-roll bars, anti-sway bars, etc). Basically two bars of metal that tie either your front or rear wheels together.

SecretAgent
10-29-2004, 11:23 PM
off topic, but you should probably change your sig. i don't think martin would like you advertising those claims. they do not make that guarantee.

back on topic:

ford will be bringing out close to 15 05 mustangs for the 2005 Formula D season. Guchi will be one of their main drivers with a full factory backed effort.

TIREKILLER
10-30-2004, 09:54 AM
His name is spelled GUSHI! He is not a purse.

slideways2004
10-30-2004, 11:58 AM
off topic, but you should probably change your sig. i don't think martin would like you advertising those claims. they do not make that guarantee.

back on topic:

ford will be bringing out close to 15 05 mustangs for the 2005 Formula D season. Guchi will be one of their main drivers with a full factory backed effort.

gushi is not 100% confirmed yet. he will probably be but not yet.

xmixedx
10-30-2004, 09:30 PM
i would think that a mustang would be a pretty decent drift car. look at the el camino, probably a pretty similar suspension setup. the driver makes the car not the other way around. i think the first thing you should do is upgrade to and lsd if not already equiped. that will make it so much easier to slide around. then you should run a couple events and once you know how your car will react, start making suspension changes.

Sickboy
10-31-2004, 12:20 AM
I think John has a good theory about characteristics of a good drift car. This was from another post a couple weeks back. From my own personal experience, cars with a longer wheelbase and fairly even F/R weight ratio make it easier to drift and transfer easier.

There was a discussion on another forum where someone came up with a formula on what makes a good drift car. The jury is still out on it but if you take the wheelbase and divide it by the track width of the car the number you get may or may not determine if the car is a good drift car or not. For example:

Known good drift cars:
AE86 Corolla= 2400mm wheelbase/1350mm track width=1.778
S13 240SX= 97.4" wheelbase/57.6" track=1.691
S14 240SX= 2525mm/1476=1.747
S15 Silvia= 2525/1465=1.723
ER34 Skyline (Nomuken)=2665/1475=1.807
SC300 (Imamura)=105.9/59.8=1.771


Known difficult drift cars:
1st Gen Miata=2265/1413=1.603
2nd Gen Miata=2265/1418=1.597
AW11 MR2=2320/1440=1.611
SW20 MR2=2400/1470=1.633
S2000=2400/1458=1.646

Basically the higher the number the more stable it is in a drift. For cars with different tracks for front and rear I just took the average. It seems that a long and narrow chassis works best as drift cars as opposed to more square cars. Here are a few other cars that I have in my spread sheet to think about:

S12 200SX=1.717
IS300=1.792
1995 Mustang=1.670
E36 3 series=1.883
95 Vette=1.606
1982 Camaro=1.665
98 Viper=1.600
95 Camaro=1.667
Porsche 944=1.639
MK4 Supra=1.676
MK3 Supra=1.747
FC RX7=1.682
FD RX7=1.661
RX8=1.794
Z32 300ZX=1.618
Z32 300ZX 2+2=1.697
Z33 350Z=1.715
Classic Z (S30+)=1.706
Classic Z 2+2=1.930 (WOW)

Of course, keep in mind that this is all just theory but it is interesting to look at the numbers. It does seem that the most competative D1 cars are in the high 1.6 to 1.7 range though. These numbers can also change if you change your wheels/tire size. Also remember that the weight of the car can make a big difference when drifting as well. Typically lightweight cars are more maneuverable in mid-drift. A final note when picking out a project drift car is make sure the car has good aftermarket support. You want to be sure that you can get parts for your car as you get better, specifically suspension and an aftermarket LSD.

Slideroadster
11-03-2004, 03:43 PM
yeah the that theory is true... the miata is a very difficult car but that doesnt stop me... i like a good challenge..

only problem is factoring in weight placement into that theory...