240sx LSD

[Oni-San]

Don't all 94-98 240's have LSD's?
My car(96) has about 80,000 Miles should I get a new one?

[nismo240sx]

no American S14's came with LSD

[Oni-San]

no American S14's came with LSD

:eek3: Ok so my car does have one (96 240 SE) Should I replace it?

[John]

From what I discovered when researching 240s the S13 chassis had LSD if it had HICAS. The S14 had LSD if it had ABS. My personal recommendation is buy an aftermarket LSD for drifting. The stock viscous type is very slow on lockup and isnt very well suited to drift with. In my opinion, it is just barely better than an open diff. A good aftermarket LSD like Kaaz or Cusco will make a HUGE difference.

[lazymofo]

From what I discovered when researching 240s the S13 chassis had LSD if it had HICAS. The S14 had LSD if it had ABS. My personal recommendation is buy an aftermarket LSD for drifting. The stock viscous type is very slow on lockup and isnt very well suited to drift with. In my opinion, it is just barely better than an open diff. A good aftermarket LSD like Kaaz or Cusco will make a HUGE difference.

yes sir :wrd: Cusco 2 way :eek3dance

[initial what?]

<3333 CUSCO <3333

[Craftsman]

You guys better know what you're doing before you installed that 2 way...

It locks up hard and fast... It's almost not daily drivable until you get used to the way it reacts. Alot of touge drifters end up hitting the side of the mountain and rails when they test it out after they get their 2 way.

If you don't know how they react in turns, I personally recommend 1.5 way LSDs. I'll be sticking to the 1.5 as it's not half as harsh as the 2 way.

I'm just letting you guys know what's involved before you toss 2000 bucks for a 2 way LSD and crash your car. (I'm not saying you're a bad driver. Just that LSDs act kinda funny.)

Matt.

[Dorian]

no American S14's came with LSD
:roflmao: ok dude.

Word Craftsman. I'll probably end up with a 1.5 when I get the bucks for it.

[NiS13]

:roflmao: ok dude.

Word Craftsman. I'll probably end up with a 1.5 when I get the bucks for it.

with that said i'd add whether u want to get a helical or clutch type as clutch type gets to b a little pain in the ass for daily driving...im looking for a kaaz 1.5 myself

[rage]

ive got a j30 vlsd in my base 95 240. works decent enough...

[John]

I dont know why everyone thinks that an aftermarket LSD is undrivable on the street. If you're just doing normal every day driving the only difference you'll notice is that the LSD will chatter a bit under low speed turns. A good LSD should run you anywhere from $600-$1000 for the part then budget around $300 for an install. Make sure that the person installing it knows how to set the runout or it'll be noisy.

As far as which 'way' LSD to get, you need to know what it means first. A 1 way will lock up under acceleration only. The 2 way will lock up under both acceleration and deceleration. And the 1.5 will lock up partially under deceleration but fully on acceleration. Personally, I use a 2 way because I like to induce oversteer with a throttle lift on turn in but if you're the type of driver who drives on the street and does a lot of throttle lifting then a 2 way might be a bit unpredictable for you. 1 or 1.5 way is probably best for a street driven car. Also, the the 1 way Cusco MZ is more agressive in lockup than the 2 way RS model so the 'way' is not an indicator of how it will lock up.

[Project240]

I dont know why everyone thinks that an aftermarket LSD is undrivable on the street. If you're just doing normal every day driving the only difference you'll notice is that the LSD will chatter a bit under low speed turns. A good LSD should run you anywhere from $600-$1000 for the part then budget around $300 for an install. Make sure that the person installing it knows how to set the runout or it'll be noisy.

As far as which 'way' LSD to get, you need to know what it means first. A 1 way will lock up under acceleration only. The 2 way will lock up under both acceleration and deceleration. And the 1.5 will lock up partially under deceleration but fully on acceleration. Personally, I use a 2 way because I like to induce oversteer with a throttle lift on turn in but if you're the type of driver who drives on the street and does a lot of throttle lifting then a 2 way might be a bit unpredictable for you. 1 or 1.5 way is probably best for a street driven car. Also, the the 1 way Cusco MZ is more agressive in lockup than the 2 way RS model so the 'way' is not an indicator of how it will lock up.




whats throttle lift? arey ou talking about heel toe?

[KeiichiLe]

<3333 CUSCO <3333

shut up man... :gtfo: you know phantom grip owns all LOL

[John]

whats throttle lift? arey ou talking about heel toe?

Drift Bible calls it 'Accel off'. Basically when you turn in you lift up on the gas and that shifts the weight forward similar to braking but not as dramatic. But with a 2 way diff the rear end will lock momentarily when you do this and makes the back end lose traction.

[Project240]

as far as autocrossing is considered, how would you be able to use a 2 way to where you won't start drifting or spin out.

[John]

as far as autocrossing is considered, how would you be able to use a 2 way to where you won't start drifting or spin out.

The lockup isn't an 'all of a sudden' type thing that's on or off. When you induce a drift you're more agressive with the wheel than when you are autocrossing. When I autocross I make sure my steering, throttle and brake inputs are smooth so as not to upset the balance of the car too suddenly. Also, my racing tires do a good job with keeping the tires planted.

[Craftsman]

John... I'll prolly end up buying a two way also. I second what you said. What I just wanted to tell people was that they should know what they're getting into when they do buy a 2 way...

It also depends on your driving background. I understand that some drivers like to ride the brakes all the way into the apex. Just depends on your driving style also.

Matt.

[tylerc]

no American S14's came with LSD

95-98 it was a factory option for the SE and LE's ( i think LE's.. )

[Agent S14]

ive got a 1996 240SX SE do i have LSD? :eh:

[S13Koop]

ive got a 1996 240SX SE do i have LSD? :eh:
No

[fastpace]

Also Canadian s13 se all had vlsd.

[tylerc]

ive got a 1996 240SX SE do i have LSD? :eh:

i have read many different places, if u want to find out for sure, u can read your serial number in the engine bay, go read up on it, but if u have certain number and shit u have an lsd.. i forgot the stuff to find out.

[silverline]

i have read many different places, if u want to find out for sure, u can read your serial number in the engine bay, go read up on it, but if u have certain number and shit u have an lsd.. i forgot the stuff to find out.
well he could jack up the car in back and and rotate the wheel and see if the other wheel goes the same direction.. dont forget to put it in nutral

[Spaceman Spiff]

there's an orange sticker at the diff if you have LSD, but most of the time that sticker peels off from time and wind.

[-=E36=-]

You guys better know what you're doing before you installed that 2 way...

It locks up hard and fast... It's almost not daily drivable until you get used to the way it reacts. Alot of touge drifters end up hitting the side of the mountain and rails when they test it out after they get their 2 way.

If you don't know how they react in turns, I personally recommend 1.5 way LSDs. I'll be sticking to the 1.5 as it's not half as harsh as the 2 way.

I'm just letting you guys know what's involved before you toss 2000 bucks for a 2 way LSD and crash your car. (I'm not saying you're a bad driver. Just that LSDs act kinda funny.)

Matt.

I love the 2 way. Its like giving you a new way to control your car. After driving on a 1.5 way and a 2 way I dont see how you can choose the 1.5. If you cant control a 2 way then practice your skills a bit before you get any kind of diff. (keep in mind I am only refering to clutch types)

Ryan

[Craftsman]

I'm a dumbass, I said in my first post in this thread that I'd choose the 1.5 way, then I later say 2.0 way...

Someone slap me.

Matt.

[-=E36=-]

I'm a dumbass, I said in my first post in this thread that I'd choose the 1.5 way, then I later say 2.0 way...

Someone slap me.

Matt.

:kekegay: :thumb:

[NISMOsean]

S13s had LSD from the factory if you have ABS. As it was an optional package form the factory, ABS and LSD. Since all HICAS equiped S13s have ABS they also have LSDs. So if you have ABS then you should have a LSD too.

S14s I am not sure on what option or package it was included with but I know that they came from the factory with LSDs too.

[TopSeller]

from what i remember the 95-96 240sx Se 5 speed came with limited Slip.

as a standard feature

[S13Koop]

from what i remember the 95-96 240sx Se 5 speed came with limited Slip.

as a standard feature
This is untrue, as I swapped out an open differential from a 96 SE for a NA Z32 differential about 3 weeks ago. This owner also believed his 96 SE came stock with a VLSD, of course it did not.

[TopSeller]

so i guess it's an optional feature

[ToNzOfPHuN]

I love the 2 way. Its like giving you a new way to control your car. After driving on a 1.5 way and a 2 way I dont see how you can choose the 1.5. If you cant control a 2 way then practice your skills a bit before you get any kind of diff. (keep in mind I am only refering to clutch types)

Ryan

Whose cars did you drive? If you drove some other bitch's 2 way then it's over between me and you!

[-=E36=-]

Whose cars did you drive? If you drove some other bitch's 2 way then it's over between me and you!

I said I have drivin a 2 way and a 1.5 way. LOL. Yours was the 2 way, and its pure sex :thumb:

Ryan :eekbunny:

[LukezDaName]

I guess you're talking about limited slips?

[-=E36=-]

I guess you're talking about limited slips?

:ugh2:

[KeiichiLe]

Drifting is a limited slip right? :eek3dance

[Craftsman]

uh... What direction did this thread go now?

Matt.

[NISMOsean]

uh... What direction did this thread go now?

Matt.


:gay2:

[crzycav]

S13s had LSD from the factory if you have ABS. As it was an optional package form the factory, ABS and LSD. Since all HICAS equiped S13s have ABS they also have LSDs. So if you have ABS then you should have a LSD too.


Nope. My s13 used to have abs, and an open differential.

Now it has vlsd, and no abs :(


The only real thing we can count on is that we can't be positively sure on anything...

[NISMOsean]

Nope. My s13 used to have abs, and an open differential.

Now it has vlsd, and no abs :(


The only real thing we can count on is that we can't be positively sure on anything...

well then your car is a bastard car that had the LSD swapped out. All S13s that rolled off the factory with ABS had a LSD. It was optional package and they came together. Only way to split them would be somebody adding one of them or removing one of them after they got it home.

[Vincent_VII]

The ONLY S13s that had LSD are Super Hicas. And Super Hicas ONLY came on hatchback models. SOME Canadian hatches without Super Hicas have LSD.

S14 models didn't have LSD unless you put it on there yourself or lived in SoCal at the time of their release and asked for a freak Nissan dealer to order it and put it on for you.

[crzycav]

You only got the s13 part right.

s14's with abs also have vlsd.

[NismoFreakS14]

The ONLY S13s that had LSD are Super Hicas. And Super Hicas ONLY came on hatchback models. SOME Canadian hatches without Super Hicas have LSD.

S14 models didn't have LSD unless you put it on there yourself or lived in SoCal at the time of their release and asked for a freak Nissan dealer to order it and put it on for you.

Um no, S14's had a LSD / ABS option on the dealer tag. However many cars came pre-equiped with just ABS and no LSD.

On S13's the SE / ABS option enabled you to get an optional LSD.

[Vincent_VII]

Um no, S14's had a LSD / ABS option on the dealer tag. However many cars came pre-equiped with just ABS and no LSD.

On S13's the SE / ABS option enabled you to get an optional LSD.

My credibility is ruined. I bow to you again sir.

[initial what?]

My credibility is ruined. I bow to you again sir.

im not ever gonna open my mouth around nismofreak. his knowledge is scary

[Vincent_VII]

im not ever gonna open my mouth around nismofreak. his knowledge is scary

I feel like a whipped puppy now. ;)

[thalegend]

S14: Checking for LSD using Car's Model number

Find the car's identification plate on the firewall, passenger side.

Check digit 18 in the model # (not the VIN!).

For Feb '94 - July '95: A, C, or E, = LSD

F, or "-" = NO LSD

For July '95 - July '96: A, C, or F = LSD

B, D, or "-" = NO LSD
even if you have base model 240...
or best way to see is get on the gas turn the wheel and count the stripes... :)

[Oni-San]

I guess I don't because the last three digits are blank, What about this (http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CP&Product_Code=38420-RS661) LSD from a Nissan dealership?

[nismo240sx]

MY bad, it was a option on S14, but frekin expensive so not many got it. I have never seen one, just do like myself and most other, put a 300zx lsd in it works GREAT and its cost effective.

[ProjectS15]

my vlsd is up for sale FYI :thumb:
pm me for my other nissan parts

[GotSX?]

Ah let me add to the confusion. Ya gotta remeber that the codes on the firewall arent 100% reliable either. A lot of cars were shipped over like nismofreak said w/o vlsd but with abs.. My car is a good example of 1995 se it says E on the firewall, has ABS, but no VLSD...

And why bother with a 300zx vlsd, don't you have to change it like the j30? Just look for a s13 and s14 vlsd and save some hassle.