View Full Version : DRITFT SUSPENSION FOR BMW
tiedupfool
09-12-2004, 06:18 PM
Like I have posted before, I have started my BMW drift project, which brings me to my most important item I can think of. I have been looking at many different set-ups but I want anybodys opinion on the way they think I should go. I do want a system that can be beat up pretty bad with all the load forces, and the cheaper without sacrificing performance would be cool too even though it prob. wont happen though :wompwomp: Time to break the piggy bank open and pull the cash I guess. I have even thought of just buying the parts of the coilover susp. system one unit at a time seeing that I only have about 500 extra at the end of two weeks to spend on my car. Please anyone, enlighten me with your comments and smart ass remarks. Take Care, JUSTIN
Juicy
09-12-2004, 06:31 PM
there's a drift forum
Outlaw
09-12-2004, 08:49 PM
Lol I love it, a new drift forum and everyone ignores it.
swyyyguy
09-12-2004, 11:25 PM
don't go cheap on suspension. get some bilstein pss9 coilovers or ground control coilovers. you're look at around $1200+ but trust me, it'll be worth it. you get what you pay for.
NismoFreakS14
09-13-2004, 07:32 AM
don't go cheap on suspension. get some bilstein pss9 coilovers or ground control coilovers. you're look at around $1200+ but trust me, it'll be worth it. you get what you pay for.
$1200 is expensive for coilovers?
Look up some Topline Aragosta or Ohlins racing dampers, or how about some Penske's or Moton's. :thumb:
Dorian
09-13-2004, 01:57 PM
moving...
Craftsman
09-13-2004, 03:50 PM
$1200 is expensive for coilovers?
Look up some Topline Aragosta or Ohlins racing dampers, or how about some Penske's or Moton's. :thumb:
X2 to this...
Kei Office is what was recommended by Alex Pfeiffer... Their coilovers cost....
(everyone ready to hear some pretty prices?)
$2,000 at the minimum for the XT or the XTa. Even the D1 costs around $2,500 or so
Matt.
tylerc
09-13-2004, 05:44 PM
X2 to this...
Kei Office is what was recommended by Alex Pfeiffer... Their coilovers cost....
(everyone ready to hear some pretty prices?)
$2,000 at the minimum for the XT or the XTa. Even the D1 costs around $2,500 or so
Matt.
i doubt kei office makes parts for this bmw we are speaking of, get some of those new bilstien coilovers...
raemi
09-13-2004, 06:00 PM
i believe H&R makes a really good kit for that car but i'm not a bmw specialist
Craftsman
09-13-2004, 08:51 PM
i doubt kei office makes parts for this bmw we are speaking of, get some of those new bilstien coilovers...
They don't. I was just pointing out the price... How 1000 dollars for a good set of coilovers isn't a bad deal... Especially for a nice car like the BMW.
Matt.
SJTrance
09-20-2004, 10:08 PM
The key to being competitive in any motorsport is adjustability/tunability. The Bilstien PSS9 would get my vote as it has both ride height and shock adjustments. You're going to have to play with the settings until you find the right feel. Now, tell me more about your BMW. Is it an E36? I found out through your profile that it's a 325is. if it's an E36, the first thing you're going to have to do is to find a limited slip differential. Without that, you're just going to be frustrating yourself. The earliest E36 325is' came with a limited slip. If you're seriously considering drifting, I suggest that you spend money on that first. You will be able to get a differential from an M3 used and install it on your car. I know tons about the E36. If you want to know more, let me know. I used to have a 98 328.
poorb0yw
09-20-2004, 11:44 PM
X2 to this...
Kei Office....
Hehe. Kei Office shouldnt be compared alongside ohlins and moton. A good set of either will run right around 12 grand once all the options are tallied up.
-=E36=-
09-21-2004, 12:27 AM
Hehe. Kei Office shouldnt be compared alongside ohlins and moton. A good set of either will run right around 12 grand once all the options are tallied up.
Wrd. Kei Office is quite poopy when put along side Ohlins.
Ryan
Craftsman
09-21-2004, 01:44 AM
Hey, if you can afford it, more power to you. External Resivoir dampers are better anyways.
NismoFreakS14
09-25-2004, 02:56 PM
Hehe. Kei Office shouldnt be compared alongside ohlins and moton. A good set of either will run right around 12 grand once all the options are tallied up.
Not if you're a dealer :fuckyou:
Shit I still can't afford them hahahha.
ArchangelX
09-27-2004, 06:03 PM
just out of curiousity... what body style bmw are you planning to do this to?
poorb0yw
09-27-2004, 07:10 PM
Not if you're a dealer :fuckyou:
Ok? Does that make you feel special?
I get everything at cost too but theres no reason to throw around false expectations by quoting less than what they normally sell for to the public.
NismoFreakS14
09-27-2004, 07:24 PM
Ok? Does that make you feel special?
I get everything at cost too but theres no reason to throw around false expectations by quoting less than what they normally sell for to the public.
It was a joke? as in no reason to get bent out of shape? :eek3:
And yes, I do feel special damnit! :eekbunny:
Craftsman
09-27-2004, 08:28 PM
And I talked with the Falken mechanics about Kei Office... I have to choose against the Kei Parts... Guess who runs the company...
Mr. Keiichi himself... (I really don't like that guy or think he's a good driver.)
Man, pick whatever fits your budget, but do a analysis of what exactly you want while you're doing it.
Matt.
poorb0yw
09-28-2004, 12:55 AM
It was a joke? as in no reason to get bent out of shape? :eek3:
And yes, I do feel special damnit! :eekbunny:
Hehe just fucking around. Maybe we can form a super cool guy pricing club :eekbunny:
SecretAgent
09-28-2004, 01:01 AM
Hehe just fucking around. Maybe we can form a super cool guy pricing club :eekbunny:
:kekegay: :kekegay:
NismoFreakS14
09-28-2004, 02:00 AM
Hehe just fucking around. Maybe we can form a super cool guy pricing club :eekbunny:
:thumb:
SecretAgent's just mad we won't let him in! :kekegay:
ArchangelX
09-28-2004, 11:27 AM
Wow, so I think this has gone off-topic. Anyways, to get to the point of my initial question (What model/year bmw), if you have a 92-99 3-series(e36), and you plan on driving it hard, i would say the first investment you should make is a rear subframe reinforcement kit. The E36 body is infamous for ripping out it's rear subframe under hard driving conditions, and it would be a pity to see that happen. I have one, and i'm not even thinking about drifting it untill i get the subframe reinforced. PM me for a link to the kit...
SJTrance
09-28-2004, 04:02 PM
Good call, Archangl. Rear subframe kit is a very safe bet. However, it all depends on how much money this guy has to throw at his car. By the way, what kind of E36 do you have? I was big into the E36 when I had mine.
swyyyguy
09-28-2004, 05:55 PM
$1200 is expensive for coilovers?
Look up some Topline Aragosta or Ohlins racing dampers, or how about some Penske's or Moton's. :thumb:
i didn't mean $1200 was expensive for coilovers, but $1200 is alot of money compared to the $500 that he said he wanted to spend.
ArchangelX
09-28-2004, 07:10 PM
Good call, Archangl. Rear subframe kit is a very safe bet. However, it all depends on how much money this guy has to throw at his car. By the way, what kind of E36 do you have? I was big into the E36 when I had mine.
'94 325i vert. Pretty much stock right now, except for DINAN perf. chip.
Ris4Drift
10-02-2004, 03:59 AM
And I talked with the Falken mechanics about Kei Office... I have to choose against the Kei Parts... Guess who runs the company...
Mr. Keiichi himself... (I really don't like that guy or think he's a good driver.)
Man, pick whatever fits your budget, but do a analysis of what exactly you want while you're doing it.
Matt.
dude. i think you need to get a car / work on a car and quit botehrnig people in the pits and listening to everythign their paid to say.
i know a couple people who will say the bilstien / gc combo is a good way to go on a budget.
but also check out www.motorforce.com . the guy that drifts the green e36 at the events makes those parts. and im sure he can help you.
CUNCEBU
10-03-2004, 11:47 AM
orry I havent posted on my thread, but I am here. I have just ordered my new differential support bracket and bolt from A.A of florida. I have already replaced my rear-subrame bushings to urethane. Starting to find coilovers now. Thinking of pss9's now. Will write more later today.
ArchangelX
10-05-2004, 11:08 AM
orry I havent posted on my thread, but I am here. I have just ordered my new differential support bracket and bolt from A.A of florida. I have already replaced my rear-subrame bushings to urethane. Starting to find coilovers now. Thinking of pss9's now. Will write more later today.
hmmm... new bushings=good. but that's not the root problem of the e36 rear subframe. the problem lies in flexibility of the body. As the metal where the subrame is mounted to bends under harsh driving conditions, it eventually starts to rip/tear/cut. Think of it as an aluminum can. When you fold it in half, then fold it in half the other way, and continue to fold it in half along the same line, eventally, it will cut in half along the fold line. The metal starts to become less and less malleable after every fold. It's the same principle w/ the rear subframe.
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=4111225649
These are the investment i was reffering to...
SJTrance
10-10-2004, 05:16 AM
Also look for a limited slip differential.
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