View Full Version : How do you drift an automatic?
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 12:42 PM
I have a Auto S14 how do you drift it on a dry surface i can do this on a wet surface easy but on a dry surface thats a different story.Anyobody know how?
YOu have to learn how to manipulate the tranny to stay in the desired gear.
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 12:45 PM
YOu have to learn how to manipulate the tranny to stay in the desired gear.
Any suggestions on how to do that Mr.Fury?
Dorian
09-10-2004, 01:04 PM
Speed, weight transfer, and power over. Also you can try shift lock from D to 1 or 2 depending on the speed but more wear is put on the tranny. I've done the latter but I didn't like to think of the shock I was putting on the drivetrain.
skr33t_rac3r
09-10-2004, 01:06 PM
cmpletly get off the gas, take the turn pull the ebrakewhen ur start sliding let go of the ebrake and punch it, i dotnt know bout a 240 but it works well in a mustang
you basically just have to gas it before the actual time you want it to actually gas, if you get my drift :kekegay:
Projext D
09-10-2004, 04:24 PM
For a auto 240 you do a Inertia Drift by swinging your car faintly to the outer edge of the of the turn ,then as you swing back press on brakes to push more weight into the front and then press e-brake and release. This will cause you to lose traction in the back tires. Last aim for the desire direction and press the accelerator. As you are also counter-steering.
Its basicaly a faint,braking,e-braking, and powerover drifting.
Learn this from a auto 240 myself (it was my hombois)
Correct me if im wrong!!!!
EET FUK
09-10-2004, 04:36 PM
Any suggestions on how to do that Mr.Fury?
theres tons of shift kits and stuff that will do that for you.
Matt_Mo_Money
09-10-2004, 05:29 PM
For a auto 240 you do a Inertia Drift by swinging your car faintly to the outer edge of the of the turn ,then as you swing back press on brakes to push more weight into the front and then press e-brake and release. This will cause you to lose traction in the back tires. Last aim for the desire direction and press the accelerator. As you are also counter-steering.
Its basicaly a faint,braking,e-braking, and powerover drifting.
Learn this from a auto 240 myself (it was my hombois)
Correct me if im wrong!!!!
if he did this he would spill the water annd fuck up the tofu
Craftsman
09-10-2004, 05:51 PM
Feint, Weight transfer are the most used techniques for Automatics RWD.
For FF cars, feint, weight transfer, and letting off on the throttle in lower gear at high speed are some techniques. The last mentioned one for FF cars is an interesting one. It does weight transfer but maintains grip on the front tires. This technique if done correctly can throw off enough traction off your rear tires to make your rear end come out.
Have fun... :) Be careful, Thankfully, Houston doesn't have mountain roads...
Matt.
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 06:02 PM
if he did this he would spill the water annd fuck up the tofu
I dont deliver tofu i deliver tacos :o
Craftsman
09-10-2004, 06:07 PM
I can teach you the different techniques that I've learned with my truck... You might also want to ask my homeboy who owns a S13 Automatic...
Anyways, from what i hear, the SR20DET conversion with the Manual Gearbox conversion isn't too hard. If that's the direction you want to go in the future.
Matt.
mr toolio
09-10-2004, 06:08 PM
I dont deliver tofu i deliver tacos :o
the salsa would spill and the taco meat would fall out, LOL..
great thread, EEEEENERTIAAAAAAAAAAA DRIFFFTTKKKK!!!!11
Adam
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 06:09 PM
I can teach you the different techniques that I've learned with my truck... You might also want to ask my homeboy who owns a S13 Automatic...
Anyways, from what i hear, the SR20DET conversion with the Manual Gearbox conversion isn't too hard. If that's the direction you want to go in the future.
Matt.
I very well plan to that in the very near future :thumb:
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 06:10 PM
the salsa would spill and the taco meat would fall out, LOL..
great thread, EEEEENERTIAAAAAAAAAAA DRIFFFTTKKKK!!!!11
Adam
Psh as long as i rotate the tequila cup the taco sauce wont spill :o
mr toolio
09-10-2004, 06:12 PM
Psh as long as i rotate the tequila cup the taco sauce wont spill :o
HAHAHAHAH! you ROLL it around the styrofoam cup..
Adam
ProjectS15
09-10-2004, 07:59 PM
I have a Auto S14 how do you drift it on a dry surface i can do this on a wet surface easy but on a dry surface thats a different story.Anyobody know how?
its pretty easy, Dailydrifter is having a grindevent Oct 31 if your interested
I perfer to use feint and braking drift on wet or dry to get the car sideways, i quit using the ebrake long ago but power overs usually help out alot, if your interested ride along with me and ill show you
John: that manual swap is goin in ASAP!
Projext D
09-10-2004, 10:19 PM
if he did this he would spill the water annd fuck up the tofu
LOL....what tofu...this is America....I deliver pizza!!!
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 11:20 PM
HAHAHAHAH! you ROLL it around the styrofoam cup..
Adam
Shit i use a glass cup :thumb:
Agent S14
09-10-2004, 11:20 PM
its pretty easy, Dailydrifter is having a grindevent Oct 31 if your interested
I perfer to use feint and braking drift on wet or dry to get the car sideways, i quit using the ebrake long ago but power overs usually help out alot, if your interested ride along with me and ill show you
John: that manual swap is goin in ASAP!
Where is it gonna be at :eek3:
I would answer but ProjectS15 is an expert at it so do what he says. :)
Agent S14
09-11-2004, 12:00 AM
I would answer but ProjectS15 is an expert at it so do what he says. :)
Any input would be good sir. :thumb:
ProjectS15
09-11-2004, 01:38 AM
Any input would be good sir. :thumb:
PRATICE! PRATICE! PRATICE!
learn with what you got and keep practicing!
who cares if its auto as long as your out there trying
KEY WORD IS TO PRATICE!! :thumb:
Well, you're a bit limited on techniques to use when you're in an autmatic. You cant clutch kick and you can't really ebrake properly but I've found the most effective method is just a regular braking drift. I've never been fond of using feints but that can work as well. When I drove an automatic IS300 turbo I mainly used the braking drift technique. Just go in a little hot (fast) and apply the brake steadily as you turn in. The back should start to slide so just get back on the gas and modulate your throttle and steering from there.
Craftsman
09-11-2004, 05:42 AM
Well, you're a bit limited on techniques to use when you're in an autmatic. You cant clutch kick and you can't really ebrake properly but I've found the most effective method is just a regular braking drift. I've never been fond of using feints but that can work as well. When I drove an automatic IS300 turbo I mainly used the braking drift technique. Just go in a little hot (fast) and apply the brake steadily as you turn in. The back should start to slide so just get back on the gas and modulate your throttle and steering from there.
This is the same way heel - toe drifts work, BTW. At least the physics behind it... It's a weight transfer technique.
What happens is most of the mass of the car is being sent to the front of the car. When this happens the rear end of the car looses traction... By applying gas going into the turn, you're going to break loose the rear end and drift :)
Another technique you might want to learn is left foot braking... I use it in daily driving in my automatic truck. Fun stuff... Just do the same technique but instead of using the right foot, use the left foot to brake and the right foot to apply throttle. You can smoothly initiate and hold the drift.
Matt.
Agent S14
09-11-2004, 03:20 PM
PRATICE! PRATICE! PRATICE!
learn with what you got and keep practicing!
who cares if its auto as long as your out there trying
KEY WORD IS TO PRATICE!! :thumb:
:eek3: :eek3dance :thumb:
needaimport
09-11-2004, 09:37 PM
PRATICE! PRATICE! PRATICE!
KEY WORD IS TO PRATICE!! :thumb:
this had me :roflmao: for a good while.
drifto211
09-13-2004, 10:43 AM
This is the same way heel - toe drifts work, BTW. At least the physics behind it... It's a weight transfer technique.
What happens is most of the mass of the car is being sent to the front of the car. When this happens the rear end of the car looses traction... By applying gas going into the turn, you're going to break loose the rear end and drift :)
Another technique you might want to learn is left foot braking... I use it in daily driving in my automatic truck. Fun stuff... Just do the same technique but instead of using the right foot, use the left foot to brake and the right foot to apply throttle. You can smoothly initiate and hold the drift.
Matt.
:wrd: this is the way i had to learn in my automatic pretty fun after u get it down :thumb:
BloMyS14
09-14-2004, 11:13 AM
just do a manual swap. i did and i love it
KeiichiLe
09-14-2004, 11:59 AM
its pretty easy, Dailydrifter is having a grindevent Oct 31 if your interested
I perfer to use feint and braking drift on wet or dry to get the car sideways, i quit using the ebrake long ago but power overs usually help out alot, if your interested ride along with me and ill show you
John: that manual swap is goin in ASAP!
LOL... i was just about to say "ask james" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Agent S14
09-14-2004, 01:09 PM
just do a manual swap. i did and i love it
Give me money then
FbodTrek
09-15-2004, 01:54 AM
Inertia drift seems to work best...unless your motor makes enough torque to use power over alot. A combination of the two is pretty much meat and potato's in my car. Swing out, gas, swwing in, counter. Some auto transmissions can be adjusted to kick down a bit more easily (I have an adjustable detent cable..), when I hammer the gas, it kicks down into 1st or 2nd and the rear breaks loose easily. With underpowered FR cars, I'd use inertia and the left foot braking mentioned above (sorta scary the first time you do it..was for me anyhow.). Find you a nice deserted parkinglot to practice, preferably in the middle of nowhere away from civies.
z28evans
09-21-2004, 08:44 PM
come to some of the local events and practice with us :thumb:
We run an auto, but a way to control the shifts (shift kit, etc) is very helpful. feint or having plenty of power helps too :)
james
www.BubbaDrift.com
Hames
09-22-2004, 03:50 AM
not really related to drifting, but automatic maintaince. IF you are going to beat the tranmission drifting i suggest upgrading the tranny oil cooler, replacing the filter and flushing the system. I beat my auto drag racing all the time and had developed a slight overheating problem causing me to swap radiators/oil cooler. Just an idea :thumb:
Agent S14
09-22-2004, 12:40 PM
come to some of the local events and practice with us :thumb:
We run an auto, but a way to control the shifts (shift kit, etc) is very helpful. feint or having plenty of power helps too :)
james
www.BubbaDrift.com
Hey thats pretty cool. :thumb:
ToNzOfPHuN
09-22-2004, 07:55 PM
modulation is going to be a bitch, you will need to have very fast reaction and sensitivity with your foot. If the car shifts when you don't expect it you will be screwed.
turbo neon
09-27-2004, 07:37 PM
do whatever you can to get it sideways, you know punch it or somethin, just be careful not to burn up your clutch. same thing happened when i was drifting my neon, it was auto too, all the sudden pffff, i burnt the clutch. good luck buddy.
Craftsman
09-27-2004, 08:31 PM
You drift FWD? What size tires do you run in the front? All the cars that I've seen that do serious drifting use some drag race setup in the front. If you were there at Falken Tire booth, you saw the Civic with the drag radials in the front.
Kyle Arai also does some wild FF drifting, but he has a very similar setup.
Matt.
Ris4Drift
10-02-2004, 04:13 AM
This is the same way heel - toe drifts work, BTW. At least the physics behind it... It's a weight transfer technique.
What happens is most of the mass of the car is being sent to the front of the car. When this happens the rear end of the car looses traction... By applying gas going into the turn, you're going to break loose the rear end and drift :)
Another technique you might want to learn is left foot braking... I use it in daily driving in my automatic truck. Fun stuff... Just do the same technique but instead of using the right foot, use the left foot to brake and the right foot to apply throttle. You can smoothly initiate and hold the drift.
Matt.
um. wrong. sorry. again, stop listening to everyone on drifting.com and get a car and get out there. and stop the name dropping please. anyways heel-toe drift is a joke. left foot brakign helps yes, but if your heel and toeing during a drift your probably not in control of the car. heel -toe is used for downshifting and rev matchign for a smooth, stable downshift. works great on a raod course or auto-x but you dont wanna use this drifting, youd use a shift lock type manuver to lock the rears like a ebrake would. please get a car and stop posting everyting you read on drifting.com. not tryign to be mean, but i just dont know any other way to say it.
Well, you're a bit limited on techniques to use when you're in an autmatic. You cant clutch kick and you can't really ebrake properly but I've found the most effective method is just a regular braking drift. I've never been fond of using feints but that can work as well. When I drove an automatic IS300 turbo I mainly used the braking drift technique. Just go in a little hot (fast) and apply the brake steadily as you turn in. The back should start to slide so just get back on the gas and modulate your throttle and steering from there.
john hit the head on the nail. ANY car can be drifted wtih a braking drift, super easy, and super effective. go in hot, get the front tires within their traction limit ( emphasis on within ) turn in, the rear should be able to step out, work the gas, your drifting.
SlOwAsShAtCh2k2
10-10-2004, 08:45 AM
I drift all the time in wet parking lots and down garages in my moms camry all the time and its FWD its all about the e-brake but lets not talk about what im doing to it k. :roflmao:
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