How to properly set a car up for drifting...

[azinwood]

im a noob to all of this.

what are the most important aspects that one needs to prepare in order to have a "good" drift car?

Could i just take my stock g35 out there and have a good drift car?

[John]

im a noob to all of this.

what are the most important aspects that one needs to prepare in order to have a "good" drift car?

Could i just take my stock g35 out there and have a good drift car?

Thanks for the activity, Frankie!

[syntheticGT]

I would think you would need some fairly wicked camber in the rear with as big a rear sway bar that you can find. That should make it fairly easy to spin the tires and get the rear end to rotate around.

but iono...thats where I would start if I had a RWD Dorifto Macheen :thumb:

[John]

Oh, I guess I should reply. :)

As a novice one could actually go out with a bone stock car with open diff and learn how to drift. To become a good drifter you should first improve the driver then improve the car as you get better. It is actually easier to drift with a stock suspension. The body roll will give you more time to react to transitions. As you get better you will want to build your car to be set up much like an autocross or a track car. Too much oversteer built into a car's suspension will make the car to twitchy in mid-slide making it difficult to control. I actually dial in a bit of understeer to make the rear end more controlable. In fact, it is slightly softer than my autocross setup.

[DJApex]

Drift Bible Helped Me
Thanks Drift Bible :eek3dance

[SecretAgent]

Drift Bible Helped Me
Thanks Drift Bible :eek3dance

lol, i'm actually watching drift bible right now, haha.


stock suspension also allows for more graceful weight transfer when the driver isn't the smoothest, it takes out some of the jerks in the driving, and not only makes the drift look cooler, but easier to control. pretty much same thing john just said, just expanded on one aspect of it a little.

[silverline]

I Know I Know its not the best but yes John I love the power to push the beast around.. tehehe go in fast turn tap the brake forword transition then GAS GAS GAS. lol

[EET FUK]

lol, i'm actually watching drift bible right now, haha.


stock suspension also allows for more graceful weight transfer when the driver isn't the smoothest, it takes out some of the jerks in the driving, and not only makes the drift look cooler, but easier to control. pretty much same thing john just said, just expanded on one aspect of it a little.

it also makes the drift look REALLY REALLY REALLY ugly.

[EET FUK]

if you guys like Drift Bible, check out the CWest DVD, Mission Drift. its got plenty of experience and way better drivers. It also has more to deal with the car instead showing you "proper" techniques on a bunch of different cars quickly.

[lazymofo]

... for good side ways set rear suspension to the hardest! i rememebr someone told me that but with out telling me what to adjust on the front! :yeahno:

[Craftsman]

Want a good alignment setup? Alex Pfeiffer's general settings...

This is Alignment Setup BTW

...a basic setup is -2F, -1.5R camber, 0 F, 1/8th R toe.

Matt.

[yourmom25]

is gassing an RWD vehicle into a hard turn really considered drifting? drifting = 4 wheels with no traction, no?

[Sickboy]

if you guys like Drift Bible, check out the CWest DVD, Mission Drift. its got plenty of experience and way better drivers...


Better drivers than Keichi Tsuchiya "The Drift King"... :gtfo:

[KeiichiLe]

Drift Bible Helped Me
Thanks Drift Bible :eek3dance

drift bible did nothing for except make me want a SR. Lol... didnt learn much except for some drills and how to name drifts Lol... just go out to a event and start experimented. I have stock suspension, open diff, and a KA :thumb: ALex showed me it was possible with all that AND 18x9" wheels in the back

[silverline]

drift bible did nothing for except make me want a SR. Lol... didnt learn much except for some drills and how to name drifts Lol... just go out to a event and start experimented. I have stock suspension, open diff, and a KA :thumb: ALex showed me it was possible with all that AND 18x9" wheels in the back
Keiich well hes not the smart kinda guy so he needs somone to show him in person not use the tv to tell him.. ohh and well knowing him he prolly tried to watch it in Japanise.. :kekegay:

[EET FUK]

Better drivers than Keichi Tsuchiya "The Drift King"... :gtfo:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH A

theres tons of other drifters that would hand Keichii his ass on a silver platter. hes the self-stlyed "drift king", just like michael jackson calls himself the "king of pop". dont believe everything that you hear.

[Juicy]

Want a good alignment setup? Alex Pfeiffer's general settings...

This is Alignment Setup BTW



Matt.

What works for one driver, one car doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for another driver, especially with a different car.

[Craftsman]

What works for one driver, one car doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for another driver, especially with a different car.

That's another thing that Alex mentioned... :)

That if you know what you're doing, you already know what settings that you want. :)

That's why I included the "Basic" setup.

Matt.

[scrapp]

you need badass suspension, like, HKS hipermax II coilovers. yea. thats badass.

[SecretAgent]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH A

theres tons of other drifters that would hand Keichii his ass on a silver platter. hes the self-stlyed "drift king", just like michael jackson calls himself the "king of pop". dont believe everything that you hear.


such as?

[EET FUK]

such as?

Yamada, Ueno, Taniguchi.

the guy has had one highlight in his racing career, taking the tsukba time attack record from tarzan. even though tarzan has broke his own record for the last what? 8 years every year?

[SecretAgent]

Yamada, Ueno, Taniguchi.

the guy has had one highlight in his racing career, taking the tsukba time attack record from tarzan. even though tarzan has broke his own record for the last what? 8 years every year?


1985 GT2 Le Mans Win
1984 Fuji Freshman Series Champion
Pioneer of Drifting
One of the founders of D1GP
2000-2003 ARTA NSX driver for JGTC500


Testimonials:
" I learned by watching Tsuchiya drift. This is the BEST video on how to DRIFT! You will be drifting within days…"
Nobuteru Taniguchi, Professional JGTC and D1 Racecar driver

"The little-known secrets of drifting are revealed comprehensively here. You can't get this kind of instruction anywhere else. If you've ever wanted to master the art of drifting, this is ? ??eat starting place "
Sam Mitani, International Automotive Editor and Japanese test-car Driver


"If drifting is your religion and Keiichi is your god, then this video is your bible. If you seek the truth, you must go directly to the source. This video is it."
Edward Loh, Editor, Drifting Magazine

"Keiichi is one of the most influential figures in Drifting."
DRIFTING.com

Keichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya In '84 Tsuchiya wins the Fuji Freshman racing series 6 races in a row. His tail slide corning style earned him the "Drift King" name. The once notorious touge street racer who had his racing license suspended at one time eventually expands his career internationally and wins the GT-2 class in '85 at Le Mans 24 hrs. Since 2000 Tsuchiya has competed in the JGTC 500 series with the ARTA NSX. He is one of the founders and also a judge for the D-1 Grand Prix drifting competition.

[EET FUK]

i guess im the only person who has watched both and is able to make a valid opinion? especially when its the instructions of one driver in 3 different cars compared with team CWest/DRFT using 8 other cars?

or we can just google stuff.

[SecretAgent]

i guess im the only person who has watched both and is able to make a valid opinion? especially when its the instructions of one driver in 3 different cars compared with team CWest/DRFT using 8 other cars?

or we can just google stuff.


no, i've watched both, i'm not saying your wrong in any way. just saying that tsuchiya has had more accomplishments than you stated. i added the quotes because i thought it was funny how you like taniguchi more than tsuchiya, when taniguchi learned from tsuchiya.

i don't have an opinion on who's better, they're all better than me, so i don't feel i can criticize any of them.

[scrapp]

i still think you need badass suspension. like HKS hipermax II's. who would like to buy me some?

[raemi]

Secret agent, you really need to check out that cwest dvd, you love how they trash on Keichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya...Check it out when you have the chance..especially at the end of the video where they tell him to fuck off

[John]

IMO, KT is an excellent drifter and racer and back in his prime he was the undisputed drift king but he's getting on in years and at the same time the sport has progressed to higher levels. I think he could still be competative in the D1GP but I dont think he's got enough to be a season champion.

As far as the Drift Bible is concerned, before I started drifting I watched it and it didnt make any sense to me. However, once I went out and did some practicing I watched the Bible again and a lot of it made much more sense. It's definitely meant to help at the beginner level but it really wont help unless you go out and try it first. So get out there and drive!

On a final note, suspension settings will vary from person to person. You won't appreciate how .5 degrees of negative camber will affect the car unless you know how the car feels in the first place. Basically, what I'm saying is that just drive with whatever setting you have. A pre-set baseline setting won't magically allow you to become a better drifter. By the time you understand how camber, toe, and caster affect a car you'll probably understand how you want it set in the first place.

[SecretAgent]

Secret agent, you really need to check out that cwest dvd, you love how they trash on Keichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya...Check it out when you have the chance..especially at the end of the video where they tell him to fuck off


yeah, i know, i've seen it. lot of good techniques in it. but it's more of a rivalry than them actually being better than him.

[Grease_Munky]

Yamada, Ueno, Taniguchi.

the guy has had one highlight in his racing career, taking the tsukba time attack record from tarzan. even though tarzan has broke his own record for the last what? 8 years every year?
Those guy are great. But I think that people put KT higher than other drivers because of his longer career and experience. Do I think he is the best driver from Japan? Hell no. But I do feel that he is one of the best, an if it came down to it, I'd pick KT to learn from just because of his "senority" in the racing world. :thumb:

[EET FUK]

no, i've watched both, i'm not saying your wrong in any way. just saying that tsuchiya has had more accomplishments than you stated. i added the quotes because i thought it was funny how you like taniguchi more than tsuchiya, when taniguchi learned from tsuchiya.

i don't have an opinion on who's better, they're all better than me, so i don't feel i can criticize any of them.

that doesnt mean tsuchiya is better than taniguchi. im pretty positive nobu could take him on any course.

[SecretAgent]

that doesnt mean tsuchiya is better than taniguchi. im pretty positive nobu could take him on any course.


again, i never said you were wrong.

[KeiichiLe]

Keiich well hes not the smart kinda guy so he needs somone to show him in person not use the tv to tell him.. ohh and well knowing him he prolly tried to watch it in Japanise.. :kekegay:

Lol.. oh man.. i remeber wanting to watch anime so bad.. i'd just watch in japanese and try to piece it together later. Ahha.. at least the drift bible had VISUALS ! AHhaa... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[Oni-San]

im a noob to all of this.

what are the most important aspects that one needs to prepare in order to have a "good" drift car?

Could i just take my stock g35 out there and have a good drift car?

Suspension and LSD :D

[silverline]

Lol.. oh man.. i remeber wanting to watch anime so bad.. i'd just watch in japanese and try to piece it together later. Ahha.. at least the drift bible had VISUALS ! AHhaa... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

he he atleast you got it..