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Grease_Munky
09-09-2004, 02:54 PM
I am always curious about new things and this is one of them. I want to know what are the rules for a drifting competition and how is it judged officially? I get into conversations at work about it alot but when it comes down to the actual rules, everyone starts pulling stuff out of the air. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks. :thumb:

SecretAgent
09-09-2004, 03:36 PM
it's a point based system similar to the olympics. they judge on style, speed, and technical difficulty. on style, it's how good the drift looks: lots of smoke, crazy angles, lots of counter steer, how good the car looks, etc. speed: both speed into the turn, through the turn and out of the turn, the more speed, the more points. technical difficulty: drifting line, drifting speeds, distance from barriers, what techniques are being used, and how well the suit the car/track, etc.

when you are drifting in pairs, all the same rules apply, but speed plays an even bigger role, if you are able to pass your opponent then you win. the rules are similar to touge rules. if you pull away from the person behind you, you win, if they pass you, they win, if they stay the same distance behind you, you switch and do it again. in drift competitions tho, car 1 goes in front first, then they run again, and car 2 is in front this time, regardless of the outcome of the first run. this ensures equal opprotunity for each driver to get a clean drift.

pretty simple stuff.

John
09-09-2004, 03:54 PM
One more thing I should add to Donnell's post is that, when drifting in tandem, passing should not be your objective when you are the chase car. When you follow your goal is to make it look like the lead car is holding you up by riding up on their bumper (or door as the case may be). If they are indeed holding you up then when it is your turn to lead you should be able to leave your opponent behind. The only time it is 'acceptable' to pass is if the lead car goes WAY off the racing line and you take advantage of that mistake. Also, if there is car-to-car contact then usually the chase car is the one that gets points deducted.

SecretAgent
09-09-2004, 04:05 PM
One more thing I should add to Donnell's post is that, when drifting in tandem, passing should not be your objective when you are the chase car. When you follow your goal is to make it look like the lead car is holding you up by riding up on their bumper (or door as the case may be). If they are indeed holding you up then when it is your turn to lead you should be able to leave your opponent behind. The only time it is 'acceptable' to pass is if the lead car goes WAY off the racing line and you take advantage of that mistake. Also, if there is car-to-car contact then usually the chase car is the one that gets points deducted.


yeah, forgot to add that. thx john.

Grease_Munky
09-09-2004, 11:44 PM
Well that helps alot. Thank you guys to the explanation. :thumb:

Craftsman
09-10-2004, 01:58 AM
They are judged on three main elements. Speed, Line, Angle.

Speed = Entry Speed into turn.

Line = Fallowing the racing line. Closeness are you to the apex of the turn and wide entry. etc. You learn this is elementary grip.

Angle = The amount of drift you have in a turn. i.e. Being pointed at the apex of the turn.

Currently, putting on a good show is a big thing, but the most important are the upper three.

Like John said... Another courtesy in tandem is, allowing the underpowered car to catch up. Big controversy was stirred at Formula D - Irwindale because of this. The domestic high powered cars were just racing away while the underpowered cars were gripping hard just to be able to catch up with them. When the domestics were chasing, they were super tight on the tails of the lead car.

Matt.

Grease_Munky
09-10-2004, 02:01 AM
What about all the hanging out the door, drifting in circles etc. I see the big guys doing? Just added "spice" in the competition? Its quite a feat to see.

SecretAgent
09-10-2004, 10:48 AM
Like John said... Another courtesy in tandem is, allowing the underpowered car to catch up. Big controversy was stirred at Formula D - Irwindale because of this. The domestic high powered cars were just racing away while the underpowered cars were gripping hard just to be able to catch up with them. When the domestics were chasing, they were super tight on the tails of the lead car.

Matt.



uuhhhhh.....no.

Craftsman
09-10-2004, 05:53 PM
It's a courtesy not a rule... It might be a rule in the future, but as of yet it's a courtesy.

Matt.

SecretAgent
09-11-2004, 12:32 AM
It's a courtesy not a rule... It might be a rule in the future, but as of yet it's a courtesy.

Matt.


who the hell told you that??? no one waits for the slower car to catch up, and no one expects them to.

EET FUK
09-11-2004, 01:24 AM
who the hell told you that??? no one waits for the slower car to catch up, and no one expects them to.

craftsman is right.

SecretAgent
09-11-2004, 01:29 AM
craftsman is right.


well, they must have been ignoring that at D1, because they were leaving people like crazy. same at Formula D.

EET FUK
09-11-2004, 01:32 AM
well, they must have been ignoring that at D1, because they were leaving people like crazy. same at Formula D.

have you seen the D1 rd 1 of this year? they were letting the others catch up as well. when youre on a bigger course like irwindale, it would be mean to just leave others in the dust. for the spirit of good competition they do that.

FD here wasnt a high speed course, so the gap wouldnt have been to large. couple that with the barriers being so close, and youve got more precision among the drivers as opposed to just winging it through irwindale.

SecretAgent
09-11-2004, 01:35 AM
have you seen the D1 rd 1 of this year? they were letting the others catch up as well. when youre on a bigger course like irwindale, it would be mean to just leave others in the dust. for the spirit of good competition they do that.

FD here wasnt a high speed course, so the gap wouldnt have been to large. couple that with the barriers being so close, and youve got more precision among the drivers as opposed to just winging it through irwindale.


hmm...i only caught part of rd 1. imma have to check it out again, i've never seen them do this before. hm, learn something new everyday.

EET FUK
09-11-2004, 01:36 AM
hmm...i only caught part of rd 1. imma have to check it out again, i've never seen them do this before. hm, learn something new everyday.

watch nomuken. he seems to do it alot.

Craftsman
09-11-2004, 05:34 AM
It happened at Formula D - Irwindale. The factory sponsered GTO and the VIPERs would ride their opponents asses and launch off the line to prevent the chasers of having a chance...

Chris Forsberg kicked Sam's ass even with all that happened... Man it was great!

I got pics of him celebrating after his awesome six runs... :) SIX... The Drift Alliance guys are some of the coolest guys ever. :)

It's just a courtesy. Not yet a rule... Otherwise cars like the AE86 don't stand a chance against a 500 HP S15 or RX7 as some of the D1 cars do have. Keiichi is a big fan of the 86 and gives extra props to the 86 drivers, but if it weren't for the high HP guys slowing down a bit, these guys wouldn't stand a chance...

Anyways...

Matt.