Kerry fights back

[Leo]

Fighting back, Democratic Sen. John Kerry called President Bush "unfit to lead this nation" because of the war in Iraq and his record on jobs, health care and energy prices. He lashed out at the incumbent and Vice President Dick Cheney for avoiding service in the Vietnam War.

"I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq," Kerry said in prepared remarks issued as the Republican was poised to accept his party's nomination for a second term.

Cheney and Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., led a chorus of Republicans who challenged Kerry's credentials to be commander in chief, arguing that although they respect his decorated Vietnam War service, his 20-year voting record in the Senate on national security issues made him unfit for the nation's top job.

Kerry answered his critics with a blistering statement.

"For the past week, they attacked my patriotism and my fitness to serve as commander in chief," Kerry said. "We'll, here's my answer. I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq."
Bush served stateside in the Texas Air National Guard. Cheney received five deferments and never served in the military.


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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/02/politics/printable640592.shtml

[Mobil1]

Fighting back, Democratic Sen. John Kerry called President Bush "unfit to lead this nation" because of the war in Iraq and his record on jobs, health care and energy prices. He lashed out at the incumbent and Vice President Dick Cheney for avoiding service in the Vietnam War.

"I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq," Kerry said in prepared remarks issued as the Republican was poised to accept his party's nomination for a second term.

Cheney and Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., led a chorus of Republicans who challenged Kerry's credentials to be commander in chief, arguing that although they respect his decorated Vietnam War service, his 20-year voting record in the Senate on national security issues made him unfit for the nation's top job.

Kerry answered his critics with a blistering statement.

"For the past week, they attacked my patriotism and my fitness to serve as commander in chief," Kerry said. "We'll, here's my answer. I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq."
Bush served stateside in the Texas Air National Guard. Cheney received five deferments and never served in the military.


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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/02/politics/printable640592.shtmlso he is refuting their claims that his senate record shows that he is weak on national defense with attacks on their military service? :eh:

[MuddyJEEP.com]

sigh.....you are sadly biased.....and posting that crap is just that,....valueless volumes of crap........


can you say....4 more years?....I knew you could

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sigh.....you are sadly biased.....and posting that crap is just that,....valueless volumes of crap........


can you say....4 more years?....I knew you could

10 bucks says muddy chants "4 more years" and "flip-flop" when the crowd on tv does.

[axio]

so he is refuting their claims that his senate record shows that he is weak on national defense with attacks on their military service? :eh:
I'm surprised to see you typing that.

Senate/House voting is rarely if ever done by the heart/what you believe in. Party leaders decide, then trade votes with the other party, etc. Anyone who has taken a gov't class can back this.

In a few rare instances when you do vote the way you want to (Jeffords), you are alienated from the party.

[juanschwartz]

Yeah... Instead of them both telling us why the other is unfit, how about they tell us why THEY ARE FIT?

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Yeah... Instead of them both telling us why the other is unfit, how about they tell us why THEY ARE FIT?

:wrd: x 1 billion

but it will never happen :wompwomp:

[MuddyJEEP.com]

10 bucks says muddy chants "4 more years" and "flip-flop" when the crowd on tv does.
hehehheehhee......funny stuff....no, I dont go that far.....there are some damn silly looking hats being worn though.....whats up with that?

[Mobil1]

Yeah... Instead of them both telling us why the other is unfit, how about they tell us why THEY ARE FIT?best idea ive heard all day. :eek3dance

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hehehheehhee......funny stuff....no, I dont go that far.....there some damn silly looking hats being worn though.....


hehe, you know I'm just playin with ya man, not hatin :thumb:

[Leo]

sigh.....you are sadly biased.....and posting that crap is just that,....valueless volumes of crap........


can you say....4 more years?....I knew you could


This from a military guy who supports a deserter.

physician, heal thyself.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

hehe, you know I'm just playin with ya man, not hatin :thumb:
I know...I am not like Cheney...I laugh....sometimes out loud :-)


and whats up with those damn hats anyway

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This from a military guy who supports a deserter.

physician, heal thyself.

it's not your place to tell him who to vote for or what his positions are. just like it isn't his to tell you likewise. there is no reason to bash each other for what we think, rather keep the focus on the matter at hand, the election.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

This from a military guy who supports a deserter.

physician, heal thyself.
so, you'd rather me support a proven pinko? :kekegay:

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I know...I am not like Cheney...I laugh....sometimes out loud :-)


and whats up with those damn hats anyway


I don't know :wompwomp:

ohly shit their forcing some woman out. wtf? what'd she say??

[Dy Lon]

Protester.

[Mobil1]

I'm surprised to see you typing that.

Senate/House voting is rarely if ever done by the heart/what you believe in. Party leaders decide, then trade votes with the other party, etc. Anyone who has taken a gov't class can back this.

In a few rare instances when you do vote the way you want to (Jeffords), you are alienated from the party.yeah, i know how it works unfortunately. but i still find his response to their accusations a little inappropriate. he could have atleast shown some of their weaknesses in the same field, and as we all know they definitly have some. :-/

"ill vote to save your alaskan wild life preserve if you vote down the ballistic missle defense system!" :roflmao:

really though, its sad when the people we elect to represent us dont do what they feel is right...if everyone just voted the way they feel would best benifit america dont you think we would be better off for it?

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Protester.

for what?

[MuddyJEEP.com]

for what?
said he had a sign that said
"bush lied, people died"

and out tha door ya go

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said he had a sign that said
"bush lied, people died"

and out tha door ya go

ah... free speech anyone?

[Mobil1]

said he had a sign that said
"bush lied, people died"

and out tha door ya goi didnt see any crazy protestors at the DNC, were there any?

[juanschwartz]

best idea ive heard all day. :eek3dance
If I ever run, they'll drag up shit from my past... "He smoked marijuana!" Then they'd have some old friend of mine talking about me hitting a bong. I'd say "Yup, I sure did do that then!". I think people would be blown away by the honesty and vote for me.

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when was the DNC?

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If I ever run, they'll drag up shit from my past... "He smoked marijuana!" Then they'd have some old friend of mine talking about me hitting a bong. I'd say "Yup, I sure did do that then!". I think people would be blown away by the honesty and vote for me.


:wrd: just don't do it in office man.

[Mobil1]

ah... free speech anyone?
they were disrupting his speech, if some drunk republicans stood up and started causing a scene they would be escorted out too.

not to mention i bet them 'crazy rightwing nut jobs' would have killed those protestors had they been allowed to stay. :D :kekegay:

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they were disrupting his speech, if some drunk republicans stood up and started causing a scene they would be escorted out too.

not to mention i bet them 'crazy rightwing nut jobs' would have killed those protestors had they been allowed to stay. :D :kekegay:

ah, i didn't know they were disrupting. yeah, they probably would have killed them


edit: I just saw a hat that said "viva bush" :kekegay:

[DJ®]

Yeah... Instead of them both telling us why the other is unfit, how about they tell us why THEY ARE FIT?

AMEN my brotha

http://coe.sdsu.edu/eet/Articles/multintel02/Clap.gif

[Mobil1]

yeah, they probably would have killed them*breaking news* 3 Protestors bludgeoned to death at republican convention by drunken 'right wing nut jobs' with cardboard signs that read "A Safer World" and "God Bless America". :roflmao:

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*breaking news* 3 Protestors bludgeoned to death at republican convention by drunken 'right wing nut jobs' with cardboard signs that read "A Safer World" and "God Bless America". :roflmao:

:rofl: :kekegay: you forgot the hats that say "viva bush"

haha and his daughters look bored.

[Mobil1]

haha and his daughters look bored."shut up dad, happy hour at the local pub is almost over!" :kekegay: :D

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"shut up dad, happy hour at the local pub is almost over!" :kekegay: :D

:kekegay: :roflmao: :roflmao: :rofl: :rofl: :eekbunny: :eek3dance

:eek3dance :eek3dance <~~~~ bush daughters running to pub

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"I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq," Kerry said in prepared remarks issued as the Republican was poised to accept his party's nomination for a second term.

Cheney and Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., led a chorus of Republicans who challenged Kerry's credentials to be commander in chief, arguing that although they respect his decorated Vietnam War service, his 20-year voting record in the Senate on national security issues made him unfit for the nation's top job.


Bush served stateside in the Texas Air National Guard.



1) Patriotism never questioned

2) Fitness to be Commander-in-chief was questioned by Zel Miller--who is an ex. Marine...and Democrat

3) Bush served in military with honorable discharge

Thanks for pointing out the false statements of a frustrated John Kerry...

[juanschwartz]

1) Patriotism never questioned

2) Fitness to be Commander-in-chief was questioned by Zel Miller--who is an ex. Marine...and Democrat

3) Bush served in military with honorable discharge

Thanks for pointing out the false statements of a frustrated John Kerry...
Hey stretch-d... is it just me or were you waiting for the Howard Dean style "ARRRRHHHH!!" from Zel Miller too? He was ranting all crazy and then told a reporter that he wished he could challenge him to a duel. Endorsing Bush or not, that man is crazy... just like Senator Bob Graham from Florida. :hs:

[Flores]

Hey stretch-d... is it just me or were you waiting for the Howard Dean style "ARRRRHHHH!!" from Zel Miller too? He was ranting all crazy and then told a reporter that he wished he could challenge him to a duel. Endorsing Bush or not, that man is crazy... just like Senator Bob Graham from Florida. :hs:

What the hell is wrong with all that?

Hell, Howard dean would have made a MUCH better candiate than Kerry...

The only reason he wasn't picked was because he might have stood a chance of beating bush... You can tell how bent over Kerry is getting by his own party leadership on a daily basis...

Besides, back in the old days, when one man called another man a liar, some folks thought enough of their reputation to put it all on the line to prove them wrong...

Just shows commitment and total belief to me...

[juanschwartz]

What the hell is wrong with all that?

Hell, Howard dean would have made a MUCH better candiate than Kerry...

The only reason he wasn't picked was because he might have stood a chance of beating bush... You can tell how bent over Kerry is getting by his own party leadership on a daily basis...

Besides, back in the old days, when one man called another man a liar, some folks thought enough of their reputation to put it all on the line to prove them wrong...

Just shows commitment and total belief to me...
So the Democrats are purposely throwing the election? :eyesjack:

[stretch-d]

Hey stretch-d... is it just me or were you waiting for the Howard Dean style "ARRRRHHHH!!" from Zel Miller too? He was ranting all crazy and then told a reporter that he wished he could challenge him to a duel. Endorsing Bush or not, that man is crazy... just like Senator Bob Graham from Florida. :hs:

Nothing--and I do mean nothing will ever challenge the style of Howard Dean's "AARRRRRRHHHHH!!!!!". :roflmao:

Seriously, I loved 'ole Zel...He looked pissed and summed up the 'situ-imo'..."Spitballs??!!"...I did see the interview with Chris Matthews...Awesome...and all out of fun--for the interview at least.