Senator Zell Miller (D-GA) speaks at RNC...

[Mobil1]

i must say ive agreed with almost everything he has said so far. im glad someone is finally talking openly about kerry's voting record and not his war record.

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i must say ive agreed with almost everything he has said so far. im glad someone is finally talking openly about kerry's voting record and not his war record.


Why should they need to bash the other candidate if they believe bush is good enough? I don't care that it was Kerry, I wouldn't have cared no matter who it was. The point is a candidate should have good enough credentials to not have to mudsling at another candidate.

Granted, it will never stop, but it's irritating to see. Why can't people focus on what their rep stands for rather than whatever the fuck they can dig up about the other parties rep.

[Mobil1]

Why should they need to bash the other candidate if they believe bush is good enough? I don't care that it was Kerry, I wouldn't have cared no matter who it was. The point is a candidate should have good enough credentials to not have to mudsling at another candidate.

Granted, it will never stop, but it's irritating to see. Why can't people focus on what their rep stands for rather than whatever the fuck they can dig up about the other parties rep.its not mudslinging when its relevant fact. in my opinion, while john kerry's military record is a non-issue, his record in the senate is an issue. and im glad someone finally addressed it openly and loudly.

[gq]

when the competition refuses to speak about their record, and there are still simpletons out there who support him, it needs to be brought up.

HIs record his HORRIBLE, yet people are still dumb enough to buy into the leftist rhetoric. Then they get pissy and call the rest of us brainwashed.

Oh well.

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its not mudslinging when its relevant fact. in my opinion, while john kerry's military record is a non-issue, his record in the senate is an issue. and im glad someone finally addressed it openly and loudly.

I guess that's true, but why do they need to convince die-hard republicans not to vote for kerry?

Just a note: I don't know who I'm going to vote for yet, I'm not really favoring either side much at the moment. I'm not very fond of Bush, but I'm going to be looking more into all the election stuff in the next couple of months. I'm not really fond of Kerry because it seems he doesn't really know what he wants to do. I may not even vote, it's almost totally useless anyway.

[Mobil1]

I guess that's true, but why do they need to convince die-hard republicans not to vote for kerry?

Just a note: I don't know who I'm going to vote for yet, I'm not really favoring either side much at the moment. I'm not very fond of Bush, but I'm going to be looking more into all the election stuff in the next couple of months. I'm not really fond of Kerry because it seems he doesn't really know what he wants to do. I may not even vote, it's almost totally useless anyway.there are alot of swing voters watching the convention, these conventions are not only meant to pump up and encourage the diehard party members, but also to sway swing voters to vote for their candidate.

dude, get out and vote, study the facts and issues then vote for who ever you feel will better serve our country! :thumb: :thumb:

[juanschwartz]

when the competition refuses to speak about their record, and there are still simpletons out there who support him, it needs to be brought up.

HIs record his HORRIBLE, yet people are still dumb enough to buy into the leftist rhetoric. Then they get pissy and call the rest of us brainwashed.

Oh well.
Which part of his record are you talking about? Shoot me some sources. I'd love to read up on it. If you're referring to his military/weapons voting that they keep talking about, Cheney's record is very similar.

[Mobil1]

Cheney's record is very similar.really? i didnt know that, could you post a link or something, id like to read up on it. :thumb:

[juanschwartz]

really? i didnt know that, could you post a link or something, id like to read up on it. :thumb:
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=177

Great site too. Debunks untruths in DEM and REP ads.

[Mobil1]

http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=177

Great site too. Debunks untruths in DEM and REP ads.
thanks dude, interesting read. :thumb:

[Leo]

Ron Reagan Jr. > a pile of shit > Zell Miller

[Leo]

when the competition refuses to speak about their record, and there are still simpletons out there who support him, it needs to be brought up.

HIs record his HORRIBLE, yet people are still dumb enough to buy into the leftist rhetoric. Then they get pissy and call the rest of us brainwashed.

Oh well.


It's Bush's failed record that people don't want to talk about.

You can take any senator's record and show how they voted for and against just about anything.
Faux News does not report that.

:-/

[chzcake01]

senators are able to flip flop because their primary goal is to serve their constituents.

[juanschwartz]

senators are able to flip flop because their primary goal is to serve their constituents.
Pfffbt! Don't you know that you always stick to your guns... No matter what John Q. Public thinks.

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Ron Reagan Jr. > a pile of shit > Zell Miller

I bet his speech had you in turmoil.

..But seeing that you used Reagan Jr. as a starting point...wow...you must really hate him. :D

I have to admit, ole' Zell was awesome in the fact that he outlined the way that people perceive the message that the Democrat party is putting out in this election--from the choice of a super-lib senator as their nominee for Pres. to the entire anti-war movement.

[juanschwartz]

I bet his speech had you in turmoil.

..But seeing that you used Reagan Jr. as a starting point...wow...you must really hate him. :D

I have to admit, ole' Zell was awesome in the fact that he outlined the way that people perceive the message that the Democrat party is putting out in this election--from the choice of a super-lib senator as their nominee for Pres. to the entire anti-war movement.
So, what makes Zell Miller any more credible than Richard Clarke? Seems like a double standard to me. Both parties think they are infallible and destroy the credibility of those that turn against them. Real nice group of people.