View Full Version : John McCain speaking now ( RNC )
1. Vietnam Vet
2. Hero
3. Senator
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Mobil1
08-30-2004, 09:12 PM
1. Vietnam Vet
2. Hero
3. Senator
:thumb:
hopefully the republican nominee for 08! :thumb:
hopefully the republican nominee for 08! :thumb:
I'll vote for him.
I would have voted for him in 2000.
:thumb:
Mobil1
08-30-2004, 09:15 PM
I'll vote for him.
I would have voted for him in 2000.
:thumb:
:wrd: (i wasnt old enough in 00, but i would have supported him none the less)
i would have voted for him this year against bush.
LOL
Michael Moore is in the audience and is getting booed.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Mobil1
08-30-2004, 09:20 PM
LOL
Michael Moore is in the audience and is getting booed.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
i wonder why he even showed up?
its probably his next 'mockumentary'..."The RNC a Coalition of Evil!" :roflmao:
Evil Patio
08-30-2004, 09:25 PM
1. Vietnam Vet
2. Hero
3. Senator
:thumb:
4. SNL Host
I'd vote for him :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
IM JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111
I'll vote for him.
I would have voted for him in 2000.
:thumb:
McCain's not bad.........he's not afraid to call people out in his own party.
MuddyJEEP.com
08-30-2004, 09:41 PM
he was awesome! his speach rocked!
MuddyJEEP.com
08-30-2004, 09:44 PM
LOL
Michael Moore is in the audience and is getting booed.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
man o man did he ever get booooooooooed!...then he started holding up the finger and thumb like the "loser" sign
Giuliani gave an awesome speach too. The DNC speaches didnt really connect the way that these first two major speaches of the RNC did.
I just noticed, the networks carried the DNC in primetime but they arent carrying the RNC. Gay.
Bryan
08-30-2004, 10:32 PM
Giuliani gave an awesome speach too. The DNC speaches didnt really connect the way that these first two major speaches of the RNC did.
I just noticed, the networks carried the DNC in primetime but they arent carrying the RNC. Gay.
If they air it live, how is it the networks fault?
I didn't even have the tv on so I don't know when it started or if its even over.
If they air it live, how is it the networks fault?
I didn't even have the tv on so I don't know when it started or if its even over.
You are missing the point, the networks didnt air the RNC at all tonight. They did air the DNC.
You are missing the point, the networks didnt air the RNC at all tonight. They did air the DNC.
no, they didn't.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200408300004
ABC plans more coverage for RNC than for Dem convention, including during Monday Night Football
ABC News has announced that in addition to the three nights of coverage it originally planned to give to the Republican National Convention, it will break with the other networks (and their originally stated coverage plans) and carry a special live convention report anchored by Peter Jennings during halftime of a pre-season Monday Night Football game, according to Variety.com. It is not clear from Variety.com's report the extent or content of the "live convention report." For the Democratic convention, ABC, CBS and NBC each broadcast 60 minutes of coverage for three out of the convention's four nights, going "dark" the night of speeches from Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Senate candidate Barack Obama (D-IL) and Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Senator John Kerry (D-MA).
CBS, NBC, and ABC have previously announced that their coverage for the RNC convention would exclude the convention's first night and would devote a similar amount of time that they gave to the DNC's proceedings. ABC's schedule (Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday) indicates that they do not plan on decreasing their coverage from 60 minutes (per night) on the convention's three remaining nights to compensate for the extra Monday night coverage.
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R-NY), whose positions on many issues reflect a more moderate stance than the Republican platform, are scheduled to speak on Monday between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m. (ET), so ABC's halftime coverage will likely occur during one or both of their speeches.
stretch-d
08-30-2004, 11:55 PM
So we agree with Sen. McCains ideals? Good.
...and if you really respect his judgement as a leader, you'll support Bush....Right?
I won't hold my breath.
So we agree with Sen. McCains ideals? Good.
...and if you really respect his judgement as a leader, you'll support Bush....Right?
I won't hold my breath.
McCain has questioned Bush's judgement calls on MANY occasions........I hardly put them on the same level in regards to leadership qualities.
OneArmedScissor
08-31-2004, 12:12 AM
McCain has questioned Bush's judgement calls on MANY occasions........I hardly put them on the same level in regards to leadership qualities.
Yes...many people forget that McCain is playing politics just as well as anyone here. He is not saying anything TOO extreme such as "I think Bush is an idiot" (which obviously he doesn't seem to like the guy TOO much to be calling him out like he does) however he is simply making his own push so that he can further his own political agenda.
I was and always have been a McCain supporter since the last election. I was most impressed with him at all the political events which I attended as a part of a political program at my school.
stretch-d
08-31-2004, 12:15 AM
McCain has questioned Bush's judgement calls on MANY occasions........I hardly put them on the same level in regards to leadership qualities.
Ok fine...but just one thing--He's not supporting Kerry....and that's really the point. Isn't it?
I think its hillarious how when McCain criticizes Bush or makes statements that support Kerry, he is the one we should listen to.
Then he supports Bush, speaks at his convention, and emplores people to vote for him, then he is just playing politics and we shouldn't listen to him.
I think its hillarious how when McCain criticizes Bush or makes statements that support Kerry, he is the one we should listen to.
Then he supports Bush, speaks at his convention, and emplores people to vote for him, then he is just playing politics and we shouldn't listen to him.
i love how everyone ignored the facts that McCain repudiated the swift boats ads, called on Bush to do likewise, and how he fell victim to similar attacks in 2000.
i love how everyone ignored the facts that McCain repudiated the swift boats ads, called on Bush to do likewise, and how he fell victim to similar attacks in 2000.
McCain never repudiated the ads. He simply said that he did not like the attacks against Kerry's service. I dont necessarily agree with the attacks either, but if Kerry lied, then he should be exposed. His story has changed many times now, so who knows.
And his dislike for the attacks on Kerrys service is hardly a endorsement of Kerry. He is endorsing Bush, simple as that, even with the attacks.
Lets make sure everyone is clear on this. Bush is not the one attacking Kerry's service record. SBV for Truth are. They are not run or endorsed by the Bush campaign. There are many more attacks coming from the left side of the 527 groups, but the liberals dont pay them much attention.
McCain never repudiated the ads. He simply said that he did not like the attacks against Kerry's service. I dont necessarily agree with the attacks either, but if Kerry lied, then he should be exposed. His story has changed many times now, so who knows.
And his dislike for the attacks on Kerrys service is hardly a endorsement of Kerry. He is endorsing Bush, simple as that, even with the attacks.
Lets make sure everyone is clear on this. Bush is not the one attacking Kerry's service record. SBV for Truth are. They are not run or endorsed by the Bush campaign. There are many more attacks coming from the left side of the 527 groups, but the liberals dont pay them much attention.
08-05) 12:51 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --
Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service "dishonest and dishonorable" and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.
The White House declined.
"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, comparing the anti-Kerry ad to tactics in his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.
more.....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/08/05/politics1020EDT0544.DTL&type=printable
08-05) 12:51 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --
Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service "dishonest and dishonorable" and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.
The White House declined.
"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, comparing the anti-Kerry ad to tactics in his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.
more.....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/08/05/politics1020EDT0544.DTL&type=printable
I just did a m-w lookup for repudiate, and it appears we are both right. I was using this definition:
3 a : to refuse to accept; especially : to reject as unauthorized or as having no binding force b : to reject as untrue or unjust.
He wasnt saying it was untrue, just that it wasnt cool and shouldn't be done.
However, if Kerry really is lying, which it appears he is, shouldn't that be made known, especially since he is the one that put so much emphasis on his service.
stretch-d
08-31-2004, 01:15 AM
08-05) 12:51 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --
Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service "dishonest and dishonorable" and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.
The White House declined.
"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, comparing the anti-Kerry ad to tactics in his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.
more.....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/08/05/politics1020EDT0544.DTL&type=printable
Bush wasn't behind the 527s in the 2000 election or the Swift Vet ads...
There is no proof that he was in either case. But if it supports Bush or is simply opposed to the other canidate, he will be blamed for it.
What else is interesting is the fact that you rarely hear of the Conservatives whinning about the 527s that malign Bush...which are seemingly endless.
stretch-d
08-31-2004, 01:35 AM
One other thing...I know and you know that if Bush had told the SwiftVets to pull their ad, and had they complied....You and others like you would have taken that as direct proof that he had control over them and therefore was behind the whole thing. Proving something that may not be true.
As has been demonstated, the Bush campaign has exercized great clarity and foresight in matters such as these...Besides, it would have been not only illegal to ask them to stop, but an infringement on thier first amendment rights.
This is why there has been no call from the Bush Administration to remove all the MoveOn ads...
PissYellowGTi
08-31-2004, 02:15 AM
Bush wasn't behind the 527s in the 2000 election or the Swift Vet ads...
Of course not, he had friends do it for him
drunkenmaster
08-31-2004, 02:43 AM
LOL
Michael Moore is in the audience and is getting booed.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
lmao.. does anybody have a pic of that? lmao hehehe
yea the only repub. i like... his speech was delivered very well
Of course not, he had friends do it for him
Even if that were true, by that logic, Kerry had the 527s on his side (which is the vast majority of 527 spending) do it to Bush.
Either way, the liberals lose because they are the ones bitching about it. MOST conservatives simply say, dont dish if yo ucant take. The left 527s have been dishing out more and harsher ads than the right but the left bitches when a few come their way.
eh, it is to be expected I guess.
OneArmedScissor
08-31-2004, 10:11 AM
I think its hillarious how when McCain criticizes Bush or makes statements that support Kerry, he is the one we should listen to.
Then he supports Bush, speaks at his convention, and emplores people to vote for him, then he is just playing politics and we shouldn't listen to him.
...but it's true... :hs: one thing we know for sure about McCain is that he has a supreme disdain for George Bush. If you remember anything about the last election and what happened to McCain...you will know why.
Heres a hint: It involves Bush and the manner in which he paid for advertisements about McCain's "Black baby"
It also involves the fact that a large amount of the republican voter base are racists.
(which is kinda how a large amount of the dem. voter base are stupid fucking hippies)
on a side note: John Kerry is a douchebag. Just thought I would say that. It appears he is no better than Bush...a dirty liar
cept he's a dirty hippie too.
Heres a hint: It involves Bush and the manner in which he paid for advertisements about McCain's "Black baby"
It also involves the fact that a large amount of the republican voter base are racists.
(which is kinda how a large amount of the dem. voter base are stupid fucking hippies)
Yeah, they tried to get people to believe it was a black baby out of wedlock, when in fact it was a baby from Bangladesh they adopted.
Politics = evil :devil:
OneArmedScissor
08-31-2004, 10:22 AM
Yeah, they tried to get people to believe it was a black baby out of wedlock, when in fact it was a baby from Bangladesh they adopted.
Politics = evil :devil:
yup. That pissed me off. I still love the guy.
I am starting to see the republican side of this election a little bit better though thanks to a few people on here, despite their constant misinformation about THEIR opponents.
I do thank GQ for being stubborn as fuck because I have learned a couple things from him even though he sucks at being wrong (when he is wrong)
turboteg
08-31-2004, 10:29 AM
McCain has severe disdain for Bush even though he supported him in his speech last night? :eh:
MuddyJEEP.com
08-31-2004, 02:44 PM
lmao.. does anybody have a pic of that? lmao hehehe
yea the only repub. i like... his speech was delivered very well
I agree...somewhere on the net there has to be a picture of him doing the "loser" sign to McCain......was great and I am sure Fox will play it 1,000 times over
http://upload.houston-imports.com/uploaded/losemoore333.jpg
Bryan
08-31-2004, 03:04 PM
I had a drunk friend once that tried to make that symbol to me with his left hand. Makes for a great laugh.
MuddyJEEP.com
08-31-2004, 03:06 PM
http://upload.houston-imports.com/uploaded/losemoore333.jpg
HAHAHAHHAHHAAHA.....thanks!...I knew it would be out and about...I appreciate you hunting it down
MuddyJEEP.com
08-31-2004, 03:09 PM
I had a drunk friend once that tried to make that symbol to me with his left hand. Makes for a great laugh.
hemustabeenreallytrashedtonotbeabletodothat
turboteg
08-31-2004, 03:09 PM
http://upload.houston-imports.com/uploaded/losemoore333.jpg
http://www.bostondirtdogs.com/2003/images/chewbacca.lg.jpg
OneArmedScissor
09-01-2004, 01:14 AM
McCain has severe disdain for Bush even though he supported him in his speech last night? :eh:
i didn't say he hated him....just has disdain for him.
disdain being used in the sense that he feels that he could do many things better than bush (thus holding himself above him in a way)
not disdain in the sense that he hates him with all his heart.
I am using the lesser used meaning for lack of a better word to describe the relationship between the senator and the pres.
That being said it looks like I may support Bush in this election.
I am still unsure and am waiting to see what kind of mess things get into right before the election :)
stretch-d
09-01-2004, 01:25 AM
i didn't say he hated him....just has disdain for him.
disdain being used in the sense that he feels that he could do many things better than bush (thus holding himself above him in a way)
not disdain in the sense that he hates him with all his heart.
I am using the lesser used meaning for lack of a better word to describe the relationship between the senator and the pres.
That being said it looks like I may support Bush in this election.
I am still unsure and am waiting to see what kind of mess things get into right before the election :)
Very cool Millin...Very cool indeed. :thumb:
juanschwartz
09-01-2004, 04:52 AM
Even if that were true, by that logic, Kerry had the 527s on his side (which is the vast majority of 527 spending) do it to Bush.
Either way, the liberals lose because they are the ones bitching about it. MOST conservatives simply say, dont dish if yo ucant take. The left 527s have been dishing out more and harsher ads than the right but the left bitches when a few come their way.
eh, it is to be expected I guess.
I don't think MoveOn.org gets it's legal advice from a former lawyer to Kerry during a Florida recount or from anyone who meets with Karl Rove... do you?
OneArmedScissor
09-01-2004, 07:01 PM
Very cool Millin...Very cool indeed. :thumb:
the true test of character is when things get rough (politically I guess the election is the best measure to see what kind of kneecap hitting backstabbing will be done)
personally I want to cast my vote for a guy with a good moral charachter and someone who won't piss the world off. Kerry appears that he may not be much better in that aspect.
I just want for it to be safe for Americans to travel again.
is that so much to ask?
stretch-d
09-02-2004, 01:12 AM
the true test of character is when things get rough (politically I guess the election is the best measure to see what kind of kneecap hitting backstabbing will be done)
personally I want to cast my vote for a guy with a good moral charachter and someone who won't piss the world off. Kerry appears that he may not be much better in that aspect.
I just want for it to be safe for Americans to travel again.
is that so much to ask?
Not at all, but it's not just unsafe for Americans to travel--it is for all people. Why? Because of terrorism...which we are currently trying to extinguish.
Kerry won't fight the War on Terror, no matter what he says in this election.
Bush is a proven consistent leader in fighting the War on Terror.
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