for Texas Leo...heres your war hero

[MuddyJEEP.com]

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545

click the link to see the real photo


Communist Vietnamese honor John Kerry, the war protestor, as a hero in their victory over the United States in the Vietnam War.
In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph shows Senator Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Muoi.

Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph over the Memorial Day weekend as America was commemorating its military heroes. Epstein's organization, Vietnam Vets for the Truth, issued a general request last week for photographs documenting Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy. Bob Shirley, a Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200 other Swift Boat veterans in signing an open letter questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief.


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[CovertPenguin]

jesus H... i dont see how someone like that could ever become a president, especially now in time of "conflict" as some people state..

[MuddyJEEP.com]

jesus H... i dont see how someone like that could ever become a president, especially now in time of "conflict" as some people state..
yep...crazy as it seems...people turn a blind eye....

[Agent S14]

Both candidates suck. :o
that is all..........

[stretch-d]

Both candidates suck. :o
that is all..........


No....Bush doesn't.

Great find Muddy....I was looking for this last night. This is something that is absolutely undeniable about Kerry...Quite disgusting really....I dare someone to try to paint this in a positive light.

I'm sure that this will cause Texasleo to start 10 more anti-Bush threads. :D

[kamakaze_22]

kerry should not be hated for working out some piece in vietnam. i usually just rome around the forum, but this kerry vietnam crap is sooooo stupid. The stuff that he says happened....guess what, it happened. Have you been to vietnam? Its not great. There are still bridges blown out, and land you can tell was terrorized, And its damn near 3rd world in many parts. They lost 3 million lives and used all its resources to keep thier way of life. So what he was over there? Obviously the 3 million vietnamese people that lost their lives didnt want the US there. He should be praised for talking to thier government to work something out. Why must the US overthrow any government and try to replace them if they dont agree with how they live. Guess what? Theyre not US.

[DJ®]

yep...crazy as it seems...people turn a blind eye....

Well, let me tell you why:

That photo is dated in 1993.........at a time of peace. If the communists want to recognize Kerry as a "hero" for them, that's not Kerry's problem.....that just means they have too much pride to admit it was a cease-fire, that's why they worded it that way.

Now if that picture was taken between 69-71....it would raise my eyebrow.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

Well, let me tell you why:

That photo is dated in 1993.........at a time of peace. If the communists want to recognize Kerry as a "hero" for them, that's not Kerry's problem.....that just means they have too much pride to admit it was a cease-fire, that's why they worded it that way.

Now if that picture was taken between 69-71....it would raise my eyebrow.
call it what you will...it is a black eye for kerry, his actions via his senate speach after his visit to spread his peace and love on his boat dictate how those people feel and it is directly the reason they herald him as a hero.....do you want me to post the link to the audio where HE says he also partook in those haneous crimes he so accused the others of doing?
he blatantly hung his fellow soldeirs out to dry, POW's and all........ok....so you wanna call it the actions of a crazy kid in his wild and crazy days......wanna see the video of him marching and carrying a vietnamese flag to the white house?...while our POW's are still in their camps getting tortured...or how about the one where he is with them holding an upside down american flag during a march?......maybe even I'll post a link for you to the video where he throws his medals over the white house fence?....claims they are his, but not, they were given by another soldier...as his hangs on his senate wall......come on man...open your eyes...hes a pinko commie running to be the Commander in Cheif of YOUR country.....

[kamakaze_22]

he was fighting for what he believed in, protesting the US governments reasons for being there...

everyone wants to call the person who protest and talks bad about the government anit-american. in fact these are the most american among us because they use the freedoms we have to speak out against they believe is wrong. mmore people need to begin speaking out and this country might get somewhere

[MuddyJEEP.com]

he was fighting for what he believed in, protesting the US governments reasons for being there...

everyone wants to call the person who protest and talks bad about the government anit-american. in fact these are the most american among us because they use the freedoms we have to speak out against they believe is wrong. mmore people need to begin speaking out and this country might get somewhere

simple, and I dont expect the younger generation to understand, but this stuff was done in 1992.......he left them (POW MIA's) behind....FACTS
its not a dead issue for those families who are still missing their loved ones...
http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/powmia-affair.htm

[MuddyJEEP.com]

he was fighting for what he believed in, protesting the US governments reasons for being there...

everyone wants to call the person who protest and talks bad about the government anit-american. in fact these are the most american among us because they use the freedoms we have to speak out against they believe is wrong. mmore people need to begin speaking out and this country might get somewhere
almost treasonist is the real facts about it......yeah, lets excuse him and hanoi jane for what they did...they were wild youths......
http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/winter-soldier.htm
you cant close your eyes forever....

[kamakaze_22]

your so one side. what about all the families in vietnam missing family members? limbs? My uncle has one leg from shrapnel(sp?), and he wasnt a soldier at all. PROPOGANDA is all those little flash videos are. It didnt have shit to do with hurting the soldiers morale, it had to do with our governments role in all the people(American and Vietnamese) dying for no reason. Maybe they were a little drastic about how they did it, but they were still speaking out. Thats the reason weed isnt legal, because the ones who smoke arent adamant about legalizing in public showings like those. If no one spoke out, we might as well be robots and do what they say.

[DJ®]

You know.....if these are the worst things people can find on Kerry, it's not going to do much damage.

It's already showing in the polls that it barely made a dent in support for Kerry.

So what's the point? What other Vietnam Vet is running for President that you want me to compare Kerry to? Even McCain says it's BS.......that should tell you something.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

You know.....if these are the worst things people can find on Kerry, it's not going to do much damage.

It's already showing in the polls that it barely made a dent in support for Kerry.

So what's the point? What other Vietnam Vet is running for President that you want me to compare Kerry to? Even McCain says it's BS.......that should tell you something.
hows about the basic fact that he hasnt done anything to show for his 19 years in the senate...and hows about the fact that there are a ton of things GW has done for his countries welfare and well being...pages and pages of stuff....crap, there is a bunch to read in this forum....easy to see whats what.........and I'm sorry, but the polls do show america cares about his actions and past...ole' GW\was like 9 points down and now 1 point up since the swiftboat ads started running....thats 10 points kerry cant afford to lose......so, it must matter to someone that he sold out his fellow soldiers

[blackrsx]

the simple fact that the picture is from the completely wrong era makes the point you are trying to raise invalid - try again

[MuddyJEEP.com]

the simple fact that the picture is from the completely wrong era makes the point you are trying to raise invalid - try again
glad you think so....but as shown...most americans do care he acted treasonally....most americans are wisening up to his flip flopping tactics and such....and I know this HI forum isnt going to make the difference in the election...but I am just putting the info out there for all to see.....it seems important enough for the kerry leg humpers to say he served his 2.5 months on the water and bush didnt....so , do understand the action of kerry do matter to most......we will see on election day I am sure

[MuddyJEEP.com]

the simple fact that the picture is from the completely wrong era makes the point you are trying to raise invalid - try again
I guess you are saying wrong era because you were young then and it doesnt matter how he treated the nation he wants to Run while you are an adult...it does matter , I am hoping you see that....your vote counts

[blackrsx]

glad you think so....but as shown...most americans do care he acted treasonally....most americans are wisening up to his flip flopping tactics and such....and I know this HI forum isnt going to make the difference in the election...but I am just putting the info out there for all to see.....it seems important enough for the kerry leg humpers to say he served his 2.5 months on the water and bush didnt....so , do understand the action of kerry do matter to most......we will see on election day I am sure

"Thats such a lame case against him. I don't think many people care if he 'loves commies', communist countries like China and Vietnam are becoming uncommunist without war. Vietnam has a stockexchange now and so forth...

Kerry shaking hands with vietnamese leaders is a plus for him in my eyes. Isn't the president suppossed to be the US' representative to the world?"

I guess you are saying wrong era because you were young then and it doesnt matter how he treated the nation he wants to Run while you are an adult...it does matter , I am hoping you see that....your vote counts


you are aware of the edit button?

I didn't write the sticky at the top of this forum - I will never vote - I am an idiot

[DJ®]

hows about the basic fact that he hasnt done anything to show for his 19 years in the senate.

Didn't I show you a whole list upon your request? So we can't use that arguement anymore........


...and hows about the fact that there are a ton of things GW has done for his countries welfare and well being...pages and pages of stuff....crap, there is a bunch to read in this forum....easy to see whats what.........

Well I would hope GW did "something".......he is the President and all.

and I'm sorry, but the polls do show america cares about his actions and past...ole' GW\was like 9 points down and now 1 point up since the swiftboat ads started running....thats 10 points kerry cant afford to lose......so, it must matter to someone that he sold out his fellow soldiers

Actually, that lift is attributed to the upcoming RNC.......not the ads.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

Didn't I show you a whole list upon your request? So we can't use that arguement anymore........

the list was extremely short for 19 years wouldnt ya say......I guess you wouldnt......his past seriously doesnt scare you...and the fact that his past horrors reach up into the 90's...and then his senate record stretches even past that date getting closer to our modern day times....still doesnt scare ya.....man o man.....


Well I would hope GW did "something".......he is the President and all.



Actually, that lift is attributed to the upcoming RNC.......not the ads

uh...yeah sure...coincidence the change is happening while the ads are being released.....ok...I guess you are the authority on the polls now.....do some research ...I have been.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

and I dont seriously expect you to change your voting mind....really, at this point...you will all in all vote the kerry way because its a grudge thing at this point....has nothing to do with the real issues at hand or the canidates qualifications.......
sad but probably true.....no way that muddy posting all those facts is gonna make a difference to me!..Kerry is god and he has the right idea.......we just dont know what it is.......

this post has some funny info for ya....
http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114102

[MuddyJEEP.com]

"Thats such a lame case against him. I don't think many people care if he 'loves commies', communist countries like China and Vietnam are becoming uncommunist without war. Vietnam has a stockexchange now and so forth...

Kerry shaking hands with vietnamese leaders is a plus for him in my eyes. Isn't the president suppossed to be the US' representative to the world?"




you are aware of the edit button?

I didn't write the sticky at the top of this forum - I will never vote - I am an idiot
seriously...why do you say you will never vote?....
and I know he is counting on the people not caring about that era anymore nor why he is on their wall of honor.....you know he wants that crap suppressed....heck, you know he doesnt really even wanna be on that wall....

[blackrsx]

seriously...why do you say you will never vote?....
and I know he is counting on the people not caring about that era anymore nor why he is on their wall of honor.....you know he wants that crap suppressed....heck, you know he doesnt really even wanna be on that wall....


I was being sarcastic when I said I wasn't going to vote. I did make the sticky about how to vote, and that is the point I was trying to raise.


btw - who said I was going to vote for Kerry? or that I even supported him at all

[MuddyJEEP.com]

I was being sarcastic when I said I wasn't going to vote. I did make the sticky about how to vote, and that is the point I was trying to raise.


btw - who said I was going to vote for Kerry? or that I even supported him at all

I think I was being "general" in use with the words all in all.........I am not here to be defensive or argumentive about any of this.....real world, I have been soaking this info up like a sponge......and when I started researching the facts...I was totally amazed at the stuff I found.......I know for a fact, I have posted stuff that some havent seen yet, I felt it was important info
and yep, I was being dense not getting the sarcasm :hs:

[Agent S14]

You know.....if these are the worst things people can find on Kerry, it's not going to do much damage.

It's already showing in the polls that it barely made a dent in support for Kerry.

So what's the point? What other Vietnam Vet is running for President that you want me to compare Kerry to? Even McCain says it's BS.......that should tell you something.
Fuckin werd if you want to damage the candidate you gotta dig deeper into his life

[stretch-d]

I was being sarcastic when I said I wasn't going to vote. I did make the sticky about how to vote, and that is the point I was trying to raise.


btw - who said I was going to vote for Kerry? or that I even supported him at all

Nobody...but you do give that impression.

[axio]

Nobody...but you do give that impression.
Javi, when you read this, remember what I said: "SEE WHAT I FUCKING MEAN?!"

[stretch-d]

Fuckin werd if you want to damage the candidate you gotta dig deeper into his life


I don't have to dig any deeper than his senate record and his 'after vietnam' anti-American actions.

[stretch-d]

Javi, when you read this, remember what I said: "SEE WHAT I FUCKING MEAN?!"

What's the matter Samir? Have I hurt your feelings? Are you not my friend?


Why don't you post how you really want to...and you know what I fucking mean.

[axio]

What's the matter Samir? Have I hurt your feelings? Are you not my friend?


Why don't you post how you really want to...and you know what I fucking mean.
Who the fuck is Samir?!

[stretch-d]

Who the fuck is Samir?!

You.

[axio]

You.
I had no idea my name was Samir. When was it changed? Why was I not told?

[mr toolio]

jesus H... i dont see how someone like that could ever become a president, especially now in time of "conflict" as some people state..


these days its trendy to be anti-bush, and anti-war.. didnt you know that!!! geez, where ya been!

Adam

[DJ®]

these days its trendy to be anti-bush, and anti-war.. didnt you know that!!! geez, where ya been!

Adam

I've been Anti-Bush since August 1994.......can't speak for anyone else.....

[stretch-d]

I had no idea my name was Samir. When was it changed? Why was I not told?


I could call you something else if you wish. :)

But really...I understand that you may not like me very much because I sometimes give you a hard time and point out when you're being anti-American.

But the fact that bothers you doesn't bother me much. I think that you're very intelligent but you use your intellectual power for the spreading of anti-Americanism to the other youths who look up to you on this site. I think that's a bad thing to do even though it's your right.

So I exercize my right to point it out...and that upsets you...but you should only be upset with yourself.


Sorry about my spelling error on your name.

[Trae*]

I've been Anti-Bush since August 1994.......can't speak for anyone else.....


yea i bet you were so concerned with politics or the president as a freshman in high school

[axio]

I could call you something else if you wish. :)

But really...I understand that you may not like me very much because I sometimes give you a hard time and point out when you're being anti-American.

But the fact that bothers you doesn't bother me much. I think that you're very intelligent but you use your intellectual power for the spreading of anti-Americanism to the other youths who look up to you on this site. I think that's a bad thing to do even though it's your right.

So I exercize my right to point it out...and that upsets you...but you should only be upset with yourself.


Sorry about my spelling error on your name.
ROFL

you are a fucking moron, Darwinism will catch up with you eventually, maybe you are too simple minded to understand that

[stretch-d]

ROFL

you are a fucking moron, Darwinism will catch up with you eventually, maybe you are too simple minded to understand that

Name calling? See...I knew that you would use all that brain-power you have to answer my assertion.


The truth: When you make statements like that, your only hiding.

No need to lock the thread...we're done right SAMI?

[blackrsx]

everyone chill out :-/ a bit and get back on topic

[axio]

Name calling? See...I knew that you would use all that brain-power you have to answer my assertion.


The truth: When you make statements like that, your only hiding.

No need to lock the thread...we're done right SAMI?
You just proved my point. An assertation is something that is just said with no evidence, and no attempt at even offering proof.

You will notice that I don't flame any of the intelligent Conservatives. I find Paul (Mobil1Skyline, who will die from drinking Coke) to be on the other end of the spectrum from people like you.

The truth: you may know about boxes and whatever other useless audio crap, but when it comes to politics you couldn't offer a piece of evidence to back you to save your life, nor can you craft a single worth while argument. All you offer is flag waving and calling other people anti-American. :eh:

[stretch-d]

You just proved my point. An assertation is something that is just said with no evidence, and no attempt at even offering proof.

You will notice that I don't flame any of the intelligent Conservatives. I find Paul (Mobil1Skyline, who will die from drinking Coke) to be on the other end of the spectrum from people like you.

The truth: you may know about boxes and whatever other useless audio crap, but when it comes to politics you couldn't offer a piece of evidence to back you to save your life, nor can you craft a single worth while argument. All you offer is flag waving and calling other people anti-American. :eh:

No...I only call you anti-American--because of the content in some of your posts. None really lately though...I must have had some effect on you. Which was my whole point anyway.

Btw...I typed this: assertion

n 1: a declaration that is made emphatically (as if no supporting evidence were necessary) [syn: averment, asseveration] 2: the act of affirming or asserting or stating something [syn: affirmation, statement]

Not this: assertation
Function: noun
Definition: an assertion, statement of opinion


Are you having a hard time reading?

[stretch-d]

everyone chill out :-/ a bit and get back on topic


Very well...

[Vincent]

Yeah...on topic...like who is that girl in the pink skirt

[stretch-d]

Yeah...on topic...like who is that girl in the pink skirt


Hey Vincent... :D

[_Zac]

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545

click the link to see the real photo


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He's a commie! GET HIM!!! :roflmao:

[blackrsx]

He's a commie! GET HIM!!! :roflmao:

Why hello there Mr. McCarthy

[_Zac]

Why hello there Mr. McCarthy
DRAMA! :eekbunny:

[Leo]

Well, let me tell you why:

That photo is dated in 1993.........at a time of peace. If the communists want to recognize Kerry as a "hero" for them, that's not Kerry's problem.....that just means they have too much pride to admit it was a cease-fire, that's why they worded it that way.

Now if that picture was taken between 69-71....it would raise my eyebrow.


this is too fucking easy

[MuddyJEEP.com]

I had no idea my name was Samir. When was it changed? Why was I not told?
:roflmao: sneaky government tactics going on