Bush is incompetent

[Leo]

NEW YORK -- President Bush is coming to town. You better watch out, you better not shout -- unless you're a certified delegate inside Madison Square Garden. With protesters somewhere out of sight, the Republican National Convention will be a celebration of the ideology, values and interests served by this second Bush presidency.

Whether you agree or disagree with the words pouring from the podium over Americans who see reflections of themselves in George W. Bush, the real issue of this election will not be mentioned. The core issue is this: Our president is incompetent. He is not a good president.


Let me count the ways:


(1) He has divided the country; we are all part of a vicious little hissing match. We were united and humbled on Sept. 12, 2001. We are divided and humiliated now, telling lies about each other.


(2) He has divided the world. "We are all Americans now," headlined Le Monde on that Sept. 12. Now there are days when it seems as if they are all anti-Americans.


(3) He is leaving no child or grandchild without debt. He has taken the government from surplus into deficit in the name of national security and increased private investment. We can pay the debt in two ways: with more government revenues (taxation) or by borrowing -- against the sweat and income of new generations. The president has chosen to borrow.


(4) He campaigns as a champion of smaller government, but is greatly increasing the size and role of government. Ideological conservatism, it turns out, costs just as much or more than ideological liberalism. Conservative and liberal politicians are both for increasing the reach and power of government. The difference between them is which parts and functions of the state are to be empowered and financed. The choice is between military measures and order, or more redistribution of income. Money is power.


(5) He is diminishing the military of which he is so proud now as commander in chief. The invasion and occupation of Iraq have obviously not worked out the way he imagined -- naked torture was not the goal. But the far greater problem for the future is that our proud commander has revealed the hollowness behind the unilateral superpower. From the top down, we have not been able to win Iraq, much less the world. And going into Iraq has compromised or crippled the war on terror he declared himself.


(6) He is diminishing scientific progress, the great engine of the 20th century. Only the truly ignorant can believe that the proper role of government is to hinder medical research and environmental study in the name of God.


(7) He is diminishing the Constitution of the United States. Cheesy tricks like amending the great text of freedom to attack homosexuality can be dismissed as wedge politics. But it is worse to preach against an activist judiciary while appointing more activist judges who happen to hold different beliefs, particularly the idea that civil liberties are the enemies of patriotism, security and freedom itself.


(8) He has surrounded himself with other incompetents. The secretary of state is presiding over the rape of diplomacy and its alliances. The secretary of defense has sent our young men and women into situations they were never meant or trained to handle, and now they are being ordered into battle by an appointed minister in a faraway land. The national security adviser does not seem to know that her job description includes coordinating defense and diplomacy. And then there was our $340,000-a-month local hire, Ahmed Chalabi, sitting in the gallery of our House.


(9) He has been unable or unwilling to deal with declining employment and the rising medical costs of becoming an older nation.


(10) He is, as if by design, destroying the credibility of the United States as a force for peace in the world -- an honest broker -- particularly in the Middle East

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=123&u=/ucrr/20040827/cm_ucrr/therealissuebushisincompetent&printer=1

[mr toolio]

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Adam

[blackrsx]

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Adam

do this one more time and you're gone - I will not tolerate posts like this in a serious forum, consider this your warning

If you can't handle differences of opinion please leave the forum

[mr toolio]

do this one more time and you're gone - I will not tolerate posts like this in a serious forum, consider this your warning

If you can't handle differences of opinion please leave the forum

what ever man. cant you see the texas leo is posting the same things over and over and over.. warn him for REPOSTS..

Adam

[Mobil1]

editorial:

Noun
1. An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers. 2. A commentary on television or radio expressing the opinion of the station or network.
Adjective
1. Of or relating to an editor or editing: an editorial position with a publishing company; an editorial policy prohibiting the use of unnamed sources. 2. Of or resembling an editorial, especially in expressing an opinion: an editorial comment.

we all know how the left wing feels. stop posting opinion and mud slinging threads and discuss the real issues.

[blackrsx]

what ever man. cant you see the texas leo is posting the same things over and over and over.. warn him for REPOSTS..

Adam

ignore them then, don't make BS posts is all I ask

[mr toolio]

ignore them then, don't make BS posts is all I ask

sure thing.. you asked nicely actually and i like that :eekbunny:

and this is from the kerrys debate about military service, that i didnt get a chance to reply to

(In case you really believe George Bush has nothing to do with the group that calls itself Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, do a Google search on its principals: Merrie Spaeth, Tex Lazar, Margaret Wilson, Harriett O'Neill, Harlan Crow or Bob J. Perry.

and how come this hasnt been exposed by the media, dont you think they would be all over that..


Some Bush supporters insinuate that Kerry shot himself in Vietnam. If so, it was thoughtful of the Viet Cong to obligingly supply shrapnel that remains in Kerry's leg today. What next? Will Bush's surrogates claim that Jimmy Carter is an atheist?

being shot at and getting shrapnel is one thing but self inflicting a wound that was not even bad (he nicked himself, hell, I've nicked myself shaving worse than his "wound" ) and applying for a purple heart because he needed 3 to leave vietnam.. if hes so eager to leave vietnam, why did he join the first place..



Attacks on Kerry's war record highlight that Kerry volunteered for war while President Bush avoided that war. It's that simple. Kerry can silence his critics with one sentence: Since the president wants to focus on the Vietnam War, we should add another debate to discuss our military service. This challenge would guarantee that Karl Rove would tell John O'Neill to just go away.


i guess military service is the ONLY thing kerry has that bush doesnt, IM VOTING FOR KERRY NOW!!!!!!

Adam

[stretch-d]

Texasleo....You should try to sway people to your way of thinking by posting the positives about your canidate...not constantly slamming our President.

All this really does is make you look hateful and deperate...I mean...How many different threads must you create to make the same point?

[mr toolio]

Texasleo....You should try to sway people to your way of thinking by posting the positives about your canidate...not constantly slamming our President.

All this really does is make you look hateful and deperate...I mean...How many different threads must you create to make the same point?

indeed.. the problem is, there arent any positives about kerry. sure hes a vet but hes a sissy also. its establish, texas leo HATES bush but does he love the husband of Momma Ketchup..?

Adam

[CovertPenguin]

Why dont you form your own opinions, instead of posting left wing propaganda... Apparently thats all you can do...

realize that 2 people can see one thing in different ways and get over it..

[drunkenmaster]

ignore them then, don't make BS posts is all I ask
LOL the TOOL is owned;)

i agree with what he says.. if you cant understand that than you are not living.

[drunkenmaster]

indeed.. the problem is, there arent any positives about kerry. sure hes a vet but hes a sissy also. its establish, texas leo HATES bush but does he love the husband of Momma Ketchup..?

Adam

ok then post some good things about bush? LMAO i laugh as i am writing this

[mr toolio]

ok then post some good things about bush? LMAO i laugh as i am writing this

you gotta love the people who answer questions they dont know with another question!! :kissmyass

Adam

[MuddyJEEP.com]

ok then post some good things about bush? LMAO i laugh as i am writing this

I already did......should I again...there is no shortage of truth to post of his accomplishments....just say so and I'll do it again for ya....no problemo

[drunkenmaster]

you gotta love the people who answer questions they dont know with another question!! :kissmyass

Adam
well what is some good things about BUSH? i guess dont answer cuz it'll hurt u to think

[drunkenmaster]

I already did......should I again...there is no shortage of truth to post of his accomplishments....just say so and I'll do it again for ya....no problemo

DO IT .... ... DO IT but make it in paraphrased form like our HI member texalo has postes his facts about bush (-)

[MuddyJEEP.com]

well what is some good things about BUSH? i guess dont answer cuz it'll hurt u to think

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/achievement/

read up on his acheivements yourself....dont wanna do a cut and paste myself, but there ARE tons of FACTS about what he has accomplished....cant argue...these are facts

this was easy to find....now , do the same for me concerning Kerry please


thanks

[MuddyJEEP.com]

DO IT .... ... DO IT but make it in paraphrased form like our HI member texalo has postes his facts about bush (-)
k

President George W. Bush’s first term has been among the most consequential and successful in modern times. Under his leadership, the United States is waging and winning the war against global terrorism. The United States and its coalition partners liberated more than 50 million people from two regimes of extraordinary brutality that had provided safe haven to terrorists. And we are promoting democracy in regions of the world that have never known it.

FACT

[MuddyJEEP.com]

DO IT .... ... DO IT but make it in paraphrased form like our HI member texalo has postes his facts about bush (-)



The United States military is receiving the strongest support from a commander-in-chief in two decades. President Bush has taken unprecedented steps to stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction – and he has signed one of the most sweeping arms reduction pacts in history. America is in the process of deploying a missile defense that will help protect the United States and its allies from catastrophic attacks. President Bush signed into law landmark legislation that better prepares our defense establishment to meet the challenges of the 21st century – and he announced the most comprehensive restructuring of US military forces overseas since the end of the Korean War.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

DO IT .... ... DO IT but make it in paraphrased form like our HI member texalo has postes his facts about bush (-)
its hard to paraphrase when I think the whole paragraph needs mentioning...........

During his first term, President Bush has signed into law three major tax cuts, including the largest in two decades – and since the summer of 2003, America has had the fastest-growing economy of any major industrialized nation in the world. Under President Bush’s leadership, the economy has been growing at rates as fast as any in nearly 20 years. The homeownership rate has been at a record high. Interest and mortgage rates have been near historic lows. The core rate of inflation over the past year ranks among its lowest in 40 years. The rate of growth of Federal spending is slowing, jobs are being created at a brisk pace (1.3 million jobs in the first six months of this year), and the unemployment rate today remains below the average unemployment rate of the 1970s, the 1980s, and the 1990s

[MuddyJEEP.com]

dude, I can go on forever....at least till I run out of web pages to copy and paste from :roflmao: its easier to post links and let you read them....there are a crap load more, just very easy to find....show me kerry goodies that easy to find

[drunkenmaster]

lmao .... your source.... lol WHITEHOUSE .ORRRRG? lol lmao.... anything else?? all i see is war war war stupid war accomplishments.. and who is our biggest allies other than britain? none of those "accomplishment" have been benefiting us...

lol

- growth in economy
- growth in umemployment
- americans not like by anybody
- took all our social security away for us and our kids and grandkids...

[mr toolio]

muddy, you beat me to it. drunken, hows that..? :kissmyass

Adam

[MuddyJEEP.com]

lmao .... your source.... lol WHITEHOUSE .ORRRRG? lol lmao.... anything else?? all i see is war war war stupid war accomplishments.. and who is our biggest allies other than britain? none of those "accomplishment" have been benefiting us...

lol

- growth in economy
- growth in umemployment
- americans not like by anybody
- took all our social security away for us and our kids and grandkids...
ok....economy growth
Economy Shows 11 Straight Months of Job Gains
Unemployment Rate Drops to 5.5% -- Lowest Since October 2001

New jobs figures released on August 6, 2004 and other recent indicators show that President Bush's economic policies continue to move the economy forward - but there is more work to do.
The economy has posted job gains for each of the last eleven months - creating 1.5 million jobs since August 2003, including 32,000 new jobs in July according to payroll survey statistics released on August 6, 2004 by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). The BLS also released new household survey data showing a much larger gain of 629,000 new jobs in July, with a total of 2.3 million jobs added since August 2003.
The national unemployment rate declined to 5.5% in July - down 0.8 percentage point from a peak of 6.3% in June 2003 and the lowest rate since October 2001. At 5.5%, the unemployment rate is below the average of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s.
Employment over the last year was up in 46 of the 50 states and the unemployment rate was down in all regions and in 47 of the 50 states.
The manufacturing sector, which started to decline in mid-2000, has added 91,000 jobs since its low in January.

[MuddyJEEP.com]

Enacted tax relief for families by lowering tax rates for all taxpayers, increasing the child credit, and reducing the marriage penalty.
Phased out the death tax, helping to preserve family farms and businesses.
Encouraged business growth by providing incentives for small businesses to invest.
Made the stock market stronger by cutting taxes on dividends and capital gains.
Passed the strongest corporate governance reforms since FDR was President.
Proposed his Jobs for the 21 st Century initiative to improve education for high school students and train workers for industries creating the most new jobs.



seriously are not gonna tell me these are lies are you......hows about that good kerry stuff please...

[MuddyJEEP.com]

all I am trying to show are facts from the whitehouse itself......FACTS......he hasnt just sat around and done nothing

[chzcake01]

how can you compare the unemployment rate of 1 month to the average of a whole year?

how does the unemployment rate of 2003 or 2004 compare to say 1998 or 1999?

[MuddyJEEP.com]

how can you compare the unemployment rate of 1 month to the average of a whole year?

how does the unemployment rate of 2003 or 2004 compare to say 1998 or 1999?
was 1998 or 1999 like now?.....did we get slammed with big corp scandals and a plane or two into buildings then....financial centers?......
come on man...facst are that the economy is coming back, there is no doubt and real worl no arguing that point

[chzcake01]

its good that jobs are being created but the jobs being created arent necessarily quality jobs, also does the number of jobs created cover the number of jobs lost btwn 2000 and today?

[MuddyJEEP.com]

its good that jobs are being created but the jobs being created arent necessarily quality jobs, also does the number of jobs created cover the number of jobs lost btwn 2000 and today?
as said, there is no arguing that the last couple years have sucked.....and I guess you know its Bushes fault we got slammed by big corp scandels ......plain fact is he inherited those woes, ....he didnt fly the planes either....all he can do is try to help recover....I think he has done a fine job...its gonna be a slow recovery...no doubt....but you cant argue, it is coming back.....its not gonna happen over night, but its happening.......is he expected to create on ehuge company and hire everybody needing a job by tomorrow......trust me, in the construction industry, which means a lot...there is major growth happening......that helps in a whole bunch of ways....

[mr toolio]

as said, there is no arguing that the last couple years have sucked.....and I guess you know its Bushes fault we got slammed by big corp scandels ......plain fact is he inherited those woes, ....he didnt fly the planes either....all he can do is try to help recover....I think he has done a fine job...its gonna be a slow recovery...no doubt....but you cant argue, it is coming back.....its not gonna happen over night, but its happening.......is he expected to create on ehuge company and hire everybody needing a job by tomorrow......trust me, in the construction industry, which means a lot...there is major growth happening......that helps in a whole bunch of ways....

indeed, and if just IF kerry pulls off this election and the economy continues to grow as it is now, who do you think will take the credit for making it grow, certainly not bush. the dems will be all over it!

Adam

[MuddyJEEP.com]

its good that jobs are being created but the jobs being created arent necessarily quality jobs, also does the number of jobs created cover the number of jobs lost btwn 2000 and today?
and I dunno what you mean by quality jobs.....crap, the big corps screwed a bunch of people with their self pocket filling mindset....it hurt our country in more than one way no doubt.....we have a huge hill to climb...not going to be easy.....but to sit back and seriously think blaming Bush for it and hoping he gets ousted and all will be well then....come on.......and maybe if Keryy would let us in on the magic "plan" he has....he says...nope, hire me and I'll spill the beans for a perfect economy, perfect system for health care for all.....yeah right.......this equates to heavy taxation of the haves and giving it freely to those who "have not"
at your expense.....unless your sucking off the system at present....then you might like his plan for freebies

[drunkenmaster]

ITS BUSH I TELL YEA>>>>:) LOL.... now stop it..

[stretch-d]

Muddy...You'll never convince some people...Those who hate Bush will hate him even if he saved their lives by pulling them from a burning building.

On Bush's side we have facts...On the Bush-hater's side we have unsubstantiated rethoric.

On Kerry's side we have.....we have.....um...we have....can someone help me out here?

[MuddyJEEP.com]

Muddy...You'll never convince some people...Those who hate Bush will hate him even if he saved their lives by pulling them from a burning building.

On Bush's side we have facts...On the Bush-hater's side we have unsubstantiated rethoric.

On Kerry's side we have.....we have.....um...we have....can someone help me out here?

yeah, I know..just trying to put some real facts out there......hoping these kids will wade through the doo and see the real stuff behind the Kerry mindset and the truth about his past.....you would think it would be scary to all, but I guess the youth dont really care of how he was/is.....