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This is a photograph published on the Presidential Library site of George H.W. Bush. We can clearly see that in this photograph, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA) and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon (SAEMR) just below his pilot wings, however, on line 24 of his NGB22 National Guard discharge form dated October 1, 1973, George W. Bush has no awards listed:
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The Bush administration has also provided a military biography:
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The awards listed here are the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon and the National Defense Service Medal, but no mention is made of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award. It also lists his dates of service with units. Other than his time training, he was assigned to the 111th Fighter Intercept Squadron and it’s parent organization, the 147th Fighter Intercept Group. His discharge date from the Texas National Guard was October 1, 1973.
The above photograph had to have been taken some time between his qualifying as a pilot in 1969 and his promotion to First Lieutenant on November 7, 1970.
So what about the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award? In the United States Army, unit awards can be worn on a temporary basis. If you are transferred into the unit that has received an award, you wear that award until you transfer out of that unit. I contacted the Air Force Personnel Center and asked whether the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award was ever authorized for temporary wear. This was their answer:
IAW AF Instruction 36-2803, THE AIR FORCE AWARDS AND DECORATIONS PROGRAM
All assigned or attached people who served with a unit during a period for which a unit award was awarded are authorized the appropriate ribbon if they directly contributed to the mission and accomplishments of the unit.
Additionally, there isn't a "temporary" wear of AF Outstanding Unit Awards for AF personnel.
So to finally solve the mystery of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award, I contacted the Air Force History support Organization. I requested all dates of all awards of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award received by the 147th Fighter Intercept Group and the 111th Fighter Intercept Squadron. The answer I received was shocking. This unit had received this award only once. The dates of the award are as follows quoting directly from the source at the AFHSO:
147th Fighter Interceptor Group AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77
111 Fighter Interceptor Squadron AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77
This states explicitly that the units received the Air force Outstanding Unit Award for the time period from October 1, 1973 to September 30, 1975. George W. Bush’s discharge date from the 111th FIS and the 147th FIG was October 1, 1973. Clearly, these units did not receive an award of the AFOUA until after George W. Bush had been discharged, and well after the date the photograph in question was taken.
This means, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he clearly did not earn.
Trae*
08-27-2004, 07:56 PM
oh no lets not vote for him because he wore a medal he didnt earn in a photo :eyesjack:
MuddyJEEP.com
08-27-2004, 08:05 PM
probably true...somebody said..pin these on there...they look purty
Two of my awards weren't on my record when i was discharged.......
Not to mention I spent six months at the wrong pay grade
Two of my awards weren't on my record when i was discharged.......
Not to mention I spent six months at the wrong pay grade
do you have people to vouch that you were there?
if you do, you're one up on the prez.
do you have people to vouch that you were there?
if you do, you're one up on the prez.
:roflmao:
mr toolio
08-27-2004, 08:21 PM
Bush doesnt SHOW OFF his "medal" as does Kerry. Kerry claims he's a hero. If I self inflict an injury to myself and apply for a purple heart, does that make me a hero too?
Adam
Bush doesnt SHOW OFF his "medal" as does Kerry. Kerry claims he's a hero. If I self inflict an injury to myself and apply for a purple heart, does that make me a hero too?
Adam
Kerry has several medals.
You have 3 minutes to disprove them.
GO!
mr toolio
08-27-2004, 08:25 PM
im not debating whether or not he earned them or not, but one of them he recieved after he himself applied for the purple heart after HE inflicted the wound himself..
Adam
MuddyJEEP.com
08-27-2004, 08:27 PM
Kerry has several medals.
You have 3 minutes to disprove them.
GO!
k
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html
fast enough for ya? :roflmao:
im not debating whether or not he earned them or not, but one of them he recieved after he himself applied for the purple heart after HE inflicted the wound himself..
Adam
February 18, 1966 Kerry formally enlists in the U.S. Navy
August 22, 1966 Kerry reports for Naval Officer Candidate School at the U.S. Naval Training Center in Newport, Rhode Island
December 16, 1966 Kerry receives commission as an Ensign
January 3, 1967 Kerry reports for duty at the Naval Schools Command at Treasure Island (CA)-Takes 10 week Officer Damage Control Course
March 22, 1967 Reports to U.S. Fleet Anti-Air Warfare Training Center (CA). Receives training as a Combat Information Center Watch Officer.
June 8, 1967 Kerry reports to USS Gridley-serves in several capacities
February 9, 1968 USS Gridley departs for a Western Pacific (WESTPAC) deployment, to engage in operations in support of the Vietnam War. Ship spends time in the Gulf of Tonkin off North Vietnam, at Subic Bay in the Philippines and in Wellington, New Zealand
February 10, 1968 Kerry requests duty in Vietnam He lists his first preference for a position as an officer in charge of a Swift Boat (designated PCF for Patrol Craft Fast), his second as an officer in a patrol boat (designated PBR, for Patrol Boat River) squadron
May 27, 1968 USS Gridley sets sail for the US
June 6, 1968 Kerry arrives in Long Beach the day after Senator Robert F. Kennedy is killed in Los Angeles
June 16, 1968 Kerry promoted to Lieutenant, Junior Grade
July 20, 1968 Kerry leaves Gridley for specialized training at the Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado, CA in preparation for service as commander of a Swift Boat. These unarmored, but heavily armed, fifty foot aluminum hulled patrol boats depended on speed and agility when engaging the enemy.
November 17, 1968 Upon completion of his training, Kerry reports for duty to Coastal Squadron 1, Coastal Division 14, Cam Ranh Bay, South Vietnam.
December 1968
through January 1969 Kerry commands PCF-44
December 2, 1968 Kerry experiences first intense combat; receives first combat related injury.
December 6, 1968 Kerry moved to Coastal Division 11 at An Thoi on Phu Quoc Island
December 13, 1968 Kerry moved to Coastal Division 13, Cam Ranh Bay
December 24, 1968 Kerry involved in combat during the Christmas Eve truce of 1968. The truce was three minutes old when mortar fire exploded around Lieutenant Kerry and his five-man crew. Reacting swiftly, John Kerry and his crew silenced the machine gun nest.
January 22, 1969 Kerry and other Swift boat commanders travel to Saigon for meeting with Adm. Elmo Zumwalt, Commander Naval Forces Vietnam (COMNAVFORV), and Gen. Creighton Abrams, Commander United States Military Assistance Command Vietnam (COMUSMACV)
Late January, 1969 Kerry joined his 5 man crew on PCF-94
Late January through
Early March, 1969 Starting in late January 1969, this crew completed 18 missions over an intense and dangerous 48 days, almost all of them in the dense jungles of the Mekong Delta. Kerry's crew included engineman Eugene Thorson, later an Iowa cement mason; David Alston, then the crew's only African-American and today a minister in South Carolina; petty officer Del Sandusky of Illinois; rear gunner and quartermaster Michael Medeiros of California; and the late Tom Belodeau, who joined the crew fresh out of Chelmsford High School in Massachusetts. Others rotated in and out of the crew. The most intense action came during an extraordinary eight days of more than 10 firefights, remembered by Kerry's crew as the "days of hell."
February 20, 1969 Kerry and crew involved in combat; Kerry receives second combat injury – Kerry earned his second Purple Heart after sustaining a shrapnel wound in his left thigh.
February 28, 1969 For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving with Coastal Division ELEVEN engaged in armed conflict with Viet Cong insurgents in An Xuyen Province, Republic of Vietnam, on 28 February 1969. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as Officer in Charge of Patrol Craft Fast 94 and Officer in Tactical Command of a three-boat mission. As the force approached the target area on the narrow Dong Cung River, all units came under intense automatic weapons and small arms fire from an entrenched enemy force less than fifty-feet away. Unhesitatingly, Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry ordered his boat to attack as all units opened fire and beached directly in front of the enemy ambushers. The daring and courageous tactic surprised the enemy and succeeded in routing a score of enemy soldiers. The PCF gunners captured many enemy weapons in the battle that followed. On a request from U.S. Army advisors ashore, Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry ordered PCFs 94 and 23 further up river to suppress enemy sniper fire. After proceeding approximately eight hundred yards, the boats again were taken under fire from a heavily foliated area and B-40 rocket exploded close aboard PCF-94; with utter disregard for his own safety and the enemy rockets, he again ordered a charge on the enemy, beached his boat only ten feet from the VC rocket position, and personally led a landing party ashore in pursuit of the enemy. Upon sweeping the area an immediate search uncovered an enemy rest and supply area which was destroyed. The extraordinary daring and personal courage of Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in attacking a numerically superior force in the face of intense fire were responsible for the highly successful mission. His actions were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service.
March 13, 1969 For heroic achievement while serving with Coastal Division ELEVEN engaged in armed conflict with Viet Cong communist aggressors in An Xuyen Province, Republic of Vietnam, on 13 March 1969. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as Officer in Charge of Patrol Craft Fast 94, one of five boats conducting a SEA Lords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry’s calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry is authorized to wear the Combat “V”.
March 17, 1969 The policy of Coastal Squadron One, the swift boat command, was to send home any individual who is wounded three times in action. After sustaining his third wound from enemy action in Vietnam, Kerry was granted relief under this policy.
Early April, 1969 Kerry departs Vietnam
April 11, 1969 Kerry reports for duty at the Military Sea Transportation Service, U.S. Atlantic Fleet in Brooklyn, NY.
January 1, 1970 Kerry promoted to (full) Lieutenant
January 3, 1970 Kerry requests discharge
March 1, 1970 Kerry’s date of separation from Active Duty
April 29, 1970 Kerry listed as Registrant who has completed service
[Source: Boston Globe, “John Kerry, the Making of a Candidate”, 6/15/03-6/21/03; Tour of Duty by Douglas Brinkley, Published by William Morrow 2003; Selective Service System, National Headquarter]
John Kerry's Official Naval Records
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/militaryrecords_1.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Acceptance_of_Discharge_Naval_Reserve.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Background_Information.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Bronze_Star.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/bronze_star_recommendation.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/National_Defense_Service_Medal.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Purple_Heart_1_Citation.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Purple_Heart_2_Citation.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Purple_Heart_3_Citation.pdf
k
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html
fast enough for ya? :roflmao:
please list every medal and how it was false.
mr toolio
08-27-2004, 08:38 PM
self inflicted injury=purple heart.. :yeahno:
Adam
supracraze2003
08-27-2004, 08:40 PM
owned
Digital Insomnia
08-28-2004, 12:41 AM
please list every medal and how it was false.
dude what's up with your constant mudslinging? I see all the threads that you have been making. Instead of listing the postives of your candidate, you resort to bashing Bush at every little detail. what's next? he wipes his ass with his right hand? are you going to disparage him for that?
CovertPenguin
08-28-2004, 02:55 AM
seriouslly texas leo, ur not changing anyones mind
mr toolio
08-28-2004, 03:00 AM
not to be too off topic, but does Dubya have a uni-brow in that pic..? :eh:
aDam
like oh my gosh, bush is such a poser!
i dont see how people can give a shit about this or kerry's purple hearts.
civperc
08-28-2004, 03:26 AM
seriouslly texas leo, ur not changing anyones mind
mr toolio
08-28-2004, 03:50 AM
also, Dubya's Vietnam record is not on the spotlight. he never claimed to be a hero or what not. he was in the reserves, and thats that.. Kerry is the one using his record to gain votes and in turn its backfiring on him..
adam
civperc
08-28-2004, 03:59 AM
The way Kerry has carried himself through the years is totally deplorable. A man who condemns our country, military, and all who served to defend this great nation, is 100% unfit for command. For him to call our veterans, war criminals, is disgusting.
MuddyJEEP.com
08-28-2004, 09:22 AM
dude what's up with your constant mudslinging? I see all the threads that you have been making. Instead of listing the postives of your candidate, you resort to bashing Bush at every little detail. what's next? he wipes his ass with his right hand? are you going to disparage him for that?
but thats all he has to arm his canidate with :roflmao:
leave him be...its humorous if nothing else :kekegay:
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