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Leo
08-27-2004, 11:08 AM
AUSTIN, Texas — Ever pound your hand with a hammer while building a doghouse? Ouch.

So it's not exactly the Normandy beaches. But it throbs like a son of a gun. And it's the kind of Purple Thumb Award that President Bush has earned plenty of — for taking headers off his bicycle, choking on junk food and dodging trailers full of trash.

Sadly, though, Bush isn't getting much mention lately for such daredevil feats. This is because the nation's attention has been ate up by all of the cheap talk about John Kerry and his Purple Hearts.

Currently, the debate rages over whether the Democratic presidential hopeful bled sufficiently to earn three Purple Hearts while serving in the Navy in Vietnam. Even Bob "Viagraman" Dole has, uh, popped up to tell Kerry he should apologize to Vietnam veterans.

The unfortunate injustice done here is that, because of this dialogue over Kerry's wartime accomplishments, we've ignored Bush's richly deserved Purple Thumbs.

Though none of these adventures occurred during combat (the only thing Bush ever fought off was a head cold), Bush did serve from 1968 to 1972 in the Air National Guard in Texas. Bush and I have eerily similar military careers. To avoid Vietnam, I joined the Army Reserve. Either way, Bush did a heckuva job while serving in the Guard. Not once Texas invaded by Oklahoma.

And though some question remains about whether Bush ducked out of some Guard meetings in Alabama, one officer said he recalled Bush sitting in his office while reading magazines.

Hey, maybe Bush got a paper cut. Also, he did go to the dentist while in the Guard, and that smarts, even with Novocain.

But what can you expect from a guy who was a prep school cheerleader? Boy cheerleader ranks up there on the leadership list, right behind guys who make funny animals out of balloons.

But I digress. One of Bush's Purple Thumbs was earned by falling off his mountain bike at his ranch in Crawford. In July, he sailed over the handlebars of his $3,100 Trek Fuel 98 bicycle and landed on his back, getting a small cut on his knee. It might not compare with fishing a guy out of a river in Vietnam during a firefight, but a scab is a scab.

If you thought that didn't amount to much, neither does this one. About 2 1/2 years ago while watching football on TV, Bush fainted and fell off the couch after choking on a pretzel.

Yep, one lousy pretzel. You could understand a guy being taken out by a bag of pork rinds, a 5-pound ham, a couple of turkey legs and a cheese blintz. But one pretzel and you're going for a Purple Thumb Award? This is a world leader?

Then there was the time five years ago here on the hike-and-bike trail when Bush dove behind a bridge support to avoid debris flying out of an overturned trailer. He scraped his right leg and hip and suffered "a significant strawberry," he said at the time.

Though this didn't occur on a river in Vietnam, there are similarities here to Kerry's wartime experience. The debris encounter did happen next to a body of water: Town Lake. And there may have been watercraft nearby, although they might have been canoes.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/shared/news/politics/stories/08/26kelso.html

Dy Lon
08-27-2004, 11:17 AM
:thumb:

veritas
08-27-2004, 11:20 AM
http://upload.houston-imports.com/uploaded/20040826DCEV101.jpg

MuddyJEEP.com
08-27-2004, 11:20 AM
AUSTIN, Texas — Ever pound your hand with a hammer while building a doghouse? Ouch.

So it's not exactly the Normandy beaches. But it throbs like a son of a gun. And it's the kind of Purple Thumb Award that President Bush has earned plenty of — for taking headers off his bicycle, choking on junk food and dodging trailers full of trash.

Sadly, though, Bush isn't getting much mention lately for such daredevil feats. This is because the nation's attention has been ate up by all of the cheap talk about John Kerry and his Purple Hearts.

Currently, the debate rages over whether the Democratic presidential hopeful bled sufficiently to earn three Purple Hearts while serving in the Navy in Vietnam. Even Bob "Viagraman" Dole has, uh, popped up to tell Kerry he should apologize to Vietnam veterans.

The unfortunate injustice done here is that, because of this dialogue over Kerry's wartime accomplishments, we've ignored Bush's richly deserved Purple Thumbs.

Though none of these adventures occurred during combat (the only thing Bush ever fought off was a head cold), Bush did serve from 1968 to 1972 in the Air National Guard in Texas. Bush and I have eerily similar military careers. To avoid Vietnam, I joined the Army Reserve. Either way, Bush did a heckuva job while serving in the Guard. Not once Texas invaded by Oklahoma.

And though some question remains about whether Bush ducked out of some Guard meetings in Alabama, one officer said he recalled Bush sitting in his office while reading magazines.

Hey, maybe Bush got a paper cut. Also, he did go to the dentist while in the Guard, and that smarts, even with Novocain.

But what can you expect from a guy who was a prep school cheerleader? Boy cheerleader ranks up there on the leadership list, right behind guys who make funny animals out of balloons.

But I digress. One of Bush's Purple Thumbs was earned by falling off his mountain bike at his ranch in Crawford. In July, he sailed over the handlebars of his $3,100 Trek Fuel 98 bicycle and landed on his back, getting a small cut on his knee. It might not compare with fishing a guy out of a river in Vietnam during a firefight, but a scab is a scab.

If you thought that didn't amount to much, neither does this one. About 2 1/2 years ago while watching football on TV, Bush fainted and fell off the couch after choking on a pretzel.

Yep, one lousy pretzel. You could understand a guy being taken out by a bag of pork rinds, a 5-pound ham, a couple of turkey legs and a cheese blintz. But one pretzel and you're going for a Purple Thumb Award? This is a world leader?

Then there was the time five years ago here on the hike-and-bike trail when Bush dove behind a bridge support to avoid debris flying out of an overturned trailer. He scraped his right leg and hip and suffered "a significant strawberry," he said at the time.

Though this didn't occur on a river in Vietnam, there are similarities here to Kerry's wartime experience. The debris encounter did happen next to a body of water: Town Lake. And there may have been watercraft nearby, although they might have been canoes.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/shared/news/politics/stories/08/26kelso.html

more Bush bashing...wheres the positve on Kerry...thats all i want to see.......seriously , is it that difficult to find...even with the advent of the internet and you cant find anything positive on kerrys senatorial record.....come on now....my vote hangs in the balance...educate me

veritas
08-27-2004, 11:27 AM
more Bush bashing...wheres the positve on Kerry...thats all i want to see.......seriously , is it that difficult to find...even with the advent of the internet and you cant find anything positive on kerrys senatorial record.....come on now....my vote hangs in the balance...educate me

John Kerry is running for president to make America stronger at home and more respected in the world. He has a plan to restore the values that have always made America a leader in the world. He has a plan to create good-paying jobs at home - jobs that let American families get ahead in an America where the middle class is growing, not being squeezed. He has a plan to make health care a right for all Americans. He has a plan to make this nation independent from Middle East oil. And he has a plan to modernize and strengthen America's military and lead a new era of alliances - so young Americans are never put in harm's way because we insisted on going it alone.

John Kerry is running for president to answer the call to service - just as he has answered that call all his life. He was born on December 11, 1943 at Fitzsimons Army Hospital in Colorado. His father, Richard, volunteered in the Army Air Corps during World War II. His mother, Rosemary, was a lifelong community activist.

As he was about to graduate from Yale, John Kerry volunteered to serve in Vietnam. His leadership, courage, and sacrifice earned him a Silver Star, a Bronze Star with Combat V, and three Purple Hearts. In Vietnam, John Kerry saw the lives of his fellow soldiers put at risk because some leaders in Washington were making bad decisions.

When he returned home, he became a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) and later co-founded Vietnam Veterans of America. John Kerry then went to work as a prosecutor, putting behind bars "the number two organized crime figure in New England." He fought for victims' rights and created programs for rape counseling.

John Kerry was elected Lieutenant Governor in 1982. Two years later, he was elected to the United States Senate and has won reelection three-times since. In the Senate, John Kerry fought to strengthen our economy, improve public education, make health care more affordable, and protect our environment. And during his 19 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he has distinguished himself as one of our nation's most respected voices on national security and international affairs.

John Kerry sees America as a country of the future, a country of optimists. As he says, "We just need to believe in ourselves. Let America be America again."

veritas
08-27-2004, 11:28 AM
John Kerry and John Edwards are running to make America stronger at home and more respected in the world. They will stand up for the values that have always made America great: faith and family, strength and service, responsibility and opportunity for all. They have a plan to create good-paying jobs at home and keep them here. They want to let families get ahead in an America where the middle class is growing, not being squeezed. They are fighting to make health care a right for all Americans. They have a plan to make this nation independent from Middle East oil. And they believe that we must modernize and strengthen America's military, defeat global terrorism, and lead a new era of alliances - so young Americans are never put in harm's way because we insisted on going it alone.

John Kerry and John Edwards want to build an America that fulfills our promise as a people and a nation. But today, this administration says this is the best economy of our lifetime. They say this is the best we can do. They have even called us pessimists. Well, as John Kerry says, the most pessimistic thing you can say is that America cannot do better.

John Kerry and John Edwards are running to make real their shared vision of America - a vision rooted in two lifetimes of service and strength, of standing up for their fellow Americans. Serving in Vietnam, John Kerry learned that in war, as in peace, we must help our fellow citizens when they falter and fall behind. In the courtroom and the Senate, John Edwards fought to help people who deserved a better life.

Above all, as fathers, both John Kerry and John Edwards learned how important it is for a family to have health care and for children to have a good education. And they believe that your family's health care is just as important as any politician's in Washington, DC.

John Kerry and John Edwards know that we are a country of the future. We are a country of optimists. We are the can-do people. And we just need to believe in ourselves. We can let America be America again.

Z33WOLF
08-27-2004, 11:30 AM
Oh wow, that's an impressive find, makes me want to run out and vote for Kerry. :eyesjack:


Here's the facts about Kerry, he had gotten three purple hearts over a time of three months, lied about his services in Vietnam. First person to ever nominate himself for a purple heart, and has managed to get the most awards in the shortest amount of time, more than anyone else, including George Washington. In Kerry's opinion, if you cut yourself while shaving, that deserves a purple heart. For not a single one of his purple hearts did he have a severe injury. War veterans are really sick of hearing him. My uncle was in Vietnam and had his ankle blown out and had to walk around with a cane for the rest of his life, he only got one purple heart and that alone is worse than all of Kerry's injuries combined.

MuddyJEEP.com
08-27-2004, 11:33 AM
John Kerry is running for president to make America stronger at home and more respected in the world. He has a plan to restore the values that have always made America a leader in the world. He has a plan to create good-paying jobs at home - jobs that let American families get ahead in an America where the middle class is growing, not being squeezed. He has a plan to make health care a right for all Americans. He has a plan to make this nation independent from Middle East oil. And he has a plan to modernize and strengthen America's military and lead a new era of alliances - so young Americans are never put in harm's way because we insisted on going it alone.

John Kerry is running for president to answer the call to service - just as he has answered that call all his life. He was born on December 11, 1943 at Fitzsimons Army Hospital in Colorado. His father, Richard, volunteered in the Army Air Corps during World War II. His mother, Rosemary, was a lifelong community activist.

As he was about to graduate from Yale, John Kerry volunteered to serve in Vietnam. His leadership, courage, and sacrifice earned him a Silver Star, a Bronze Star with Combat V, and three Purple Hearts. In Vietnam, John Kerry saw the lives of his fellow soldiers put at risk because some leaders in Washington were making bad decisions.

When he returned home, he became a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) and later co-founded Vietnam Veterans of America. John Kerry then went to work as a prosecutor, putting behind bars "the number two organized crime figure in New England." He fought for victims' rights and created programs for rape counseling.

John Kerry was elected Lieutenant Governor in 1982. Two years later, he was elected to the United States Senate and has won reelection three-times since. In the Senate, John Kerry fought to strengthen our economy, improve public education, make health care more affordable, and protect our environment. And during his 19 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he has distinguished himself as one of our nation's most respected voices on national security and international affairs.

John Kerry sees America as a country of the future, a country of optimists. As he says, "We just need to believe in ourselves. Let America be America again."

ok.....didnt ask for his resume, but ok....tell me what his plan is?......just because I say I have a plan, doesnt mean I do.......if you know what his plan is...tell us wont ya.....how is he going to provide health care.....TAXING us?...who is going to get the health care....the people who wont work for it?...who is going to pay for it ??...how is it going to be paid for?...you think kerry is going to fund it all himself?.....YOUR MONEY INDEED....taking form the hard working HAVES and giving it to the non working HAVE NOTS....
whats his "establishing jobs plan"?.........seriously....you sound like you need to ask more questions instead of letting the 4 words be enough......"I have a plan".................

Z33WOLF
08-27-2004, 11:36 AM
ok.....didnt ask for his resume, but ok....tell me what his plan is?......just because I say I have a plan, doesnt mean I do.......if you know what his plan is...tell us wont ya.....how is he going to provide health care.....TAXING us?...who is going to get the health care....the people who wont work for it?...who is going to pay for it ??...how is it going to be paid for?...you think kerry is going to fund it all himself?.....YOUR MONEY INDEED....taking form the hard working HAVES and giving it to the non working HAVE NOTS....
whats his "establishing jobs plan"?.........seriously....you sound like you need to ask more questions instead of letting the 4 words be enough......"I have a plan".................

http://www.adamreiter.com/kerryedwards.jpg

moleman
08-27-2004, 11:38 AM
his plan :rolleyes:
http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

he had to write a book for his plan :rolleyes:

Z33WOLF
08-27-2004, 11:39 AM
his plan :rolleyes:
http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

he had to write a book for his plan :rolleyes:

You know the number one selling book in america is about Kerry, Unfit for Command, or something like that.

veritas
08-27-2004, 11:40 AM
Your're a grown man, decide for yourself.

What if you lose either of your sons in IRAQ? Would the pain be worth it?

moleman
08-27-2004, 11:44 AM
Your're a grown man, decide for yourself.

What if you lose either of your sons in IRAQ? Would the pain be worth it?
you really dont see what muddy is asking for, he just wants facts. All yall people voting for kerry are just bashing Bush.


so if kerry was presidnet what would he do for us?

conecrazy
08-27-2004, 11:46 AM
i think it's funny how clinton didn't even serve in the military while dole was in the mountain division in WWII and yet nobody even gave that a second look. this time around it goes 180 and everyone talks about how kerry is the right man cause he got 3 purple hearts. talk about double standard. :rolleyes:

MuddyJEEP.com
08-27-2004, 11:48 AM
Your're a grown man, decide for yourself.

What if you lose either of your sons in IRAQ? Would the pain be worth it?

I made the choice to serve our country in the military...I was fortunate enough to not have to go to war........My sons made their own choice to go and join the military.....they truly feel that they made the right choice for their country......I would be very sad, as you well know if they went and died in battle...I can not control their destiny.......I of course do not want to lose them..........
but what about the people that were in the towers...they lost their lives due to another showing aggression......all tied to terrorism and the monetary backing and training of those that hate americans......we have to do something about it.....we have to defend ourselves, our country, our way of life.. and yes, even you......

Flores
08-27-2004, 11:52 AM
For all we know, Kerry's 'Plan' for deal with our problems revolves around kill all the rich rebuplicans and redistributing their wealth to poor folks...

Anyone can say "I have this great plan, that will acomplish all my goals, and make you all happy, BUT I'm not going to let it out until I'm president, because I don't want BUSH to have it..."

Tell me how patriotic that is... The man has basicly said 'Fuq you! if you want my ideas, you pay up front!"

I may not like everything that Bush has done, but at least I know what to expect from him. Kerry hasn't done anything significant with his life that I can see since vietnam except marry a rich widow, and be the least offensive Dem they could find to run for president... (I would count his long term 'job' in the senate, except anyone with his attendence and participation record would get fired from a real job..., and I don't want to say too many negative things about the man)

That hardly qualifies him to lead the country...

So, lesser of two evils...

The big problem I have with the way the 'loyal opposition' conducts themselves is that they have managed to whip themseleves into an emotional fevor, and are using it to justify ANY MEANS of winning... which means even if bush winds in a landslide, there are going to be lawsuits to try and subvert the process... which, if you really think about it, is what america is all about, the process of orderly maintaining government. Subverting the process to your own ends ... just is wrong... The rules are laid out, play fair, and we ALL win. if one side 'cheats', we ALL lose.

Flores
08-27-2004, 11:53 AM
i think it's funny how clinton didn't even serve in the military while dole was in the mountain division in WWII and yet nobody even gave that a second look. this time around it goes 180 and everyone talks about how kerry is the right man cause he got 3 purple hearts. talk about double standard. :rolleyes:

I don't think it's a double standard so much as that is really the only postive thing Kerry has ever done, so they have to play it up...

Flores
08-27-2004, 11:58 AM
I don't think it's a double standard so much as that is really the only postive thing Kerry has ever done, so they have to play it up...
which he promptly un-did the minute he got back to the Land of the Big-PX...

(testifying in front of congress that ALL US Troops in theater were DAILY commiting horrible atrocities on civilians)

Morpheus
08-27-2004, 11:58 AM
Haha! Earlier I posted that democrats were lazy, and what’d ya know. Sure enough, around 11:00 am you guys wake up and start posting. :roflmao:
We all know you guys aren't gonna vote anyway, so why waste your time bitching about bush???

Flores
08-27-2004, 12:01 PM
Haha! Earlier I posted that democrats were lazy, and what’d ya know. Sure enough, around 11:00 am you guys wake up and start posting. :roflmao:
We all know you guys aren't gonna vote anyway, so why waste your time bitching about bush???


ROFLMAO!!!!

:thumb:

Z33WOLF
08-27-2004, 12:01 PM
Haha! Earlier I posted that democrats were lazy, and what’d ya know. Sure enough, around 11:00 am you guys wake up and start posting. :roflmao:
We all know you guys aren't gonna vote anyway, so why waste your time bitching about bush???

Or maybe they'll do what happened in the 2000 election, thousands of democrats in the NY/NJ area voted and then went to their summer homes in Florida and voted again.

MuddyJEEP.com
08-27-2004, 12:06 PM
Or maybe they'll do what happened in the 2000 election, thousands of democrats in the NY/NJ area voted and then went to their summer homes in Florida and voted again.




still waiting on positive kerry stuff............. :kekegay: